That said this is total ****. Terrible move and just a evil ting to do to people. I spent $$ to get DR which I rarely do, now you going to punish my DR team through shan buff and require me to get this guy with a completely new way of obtaining a character. one in which I would need 3 more zetas to get. With on a few days warning.
This might be it for me, I dont know if I can keep supporting this.
I have a pc with a bunch of indie games that are not ran be evil **** that I can play instead of the cash grab ****.
People using the term "investment" when they spend money on this game is an incorrect use of the term.
You're just throwing you your money away for entertainment. It's like buying lottery tickets and calling it an investment, or like buying Madden 15, 16, 17, 18 and calling it an investment.
Is Malaks shards going to be in GET for those that didn’t unlock him? If so that’s not so bad for F2P or anyone not ready, at least they get to start farming him.
Wait, so we get 2 days notice for a 2 day event requiring 2 sets of Journey characters, including the Journey characters themselves, for a character that we still haven't even seen the kit of? And it only unlocks the character at 5*, which you then have to buy more shards of from a store? Even for CG, this is absolutely ridiculous.
People using the term "investment" when they spend money on this game is an incorrect use of the term.
You're just throwing you your money away for entertainment. It's like buying lottery tickets and calling it an investment, or like buying Madden 15, 16, 17, 18 and calling it an investment.
Just sayin
Lmao at those guys calling this an investment. Whatever makes them happy
I whale out more than is rational or even sane. But the thing here defenders aren't getting isn't that other players are expecting immediate access to a new toon but a system of getting characters that at least respect the player base.
Yeah, but the thing that you're not getting is that you don't HAVE to whale out all the time. It's okay to let a character go by and get them the next time. It's not the end of the game, let alone the end of the world.
They're not disrespecting you. They don't even know who you are. They're giving us the thing we asked for--Malak, fewer marquees, reasons to use characters we don't use, etc--but getting what you want usually comes with the unexpected result of realizing you didn't actually want it.
That's what some people are getting wrong. Once you start whaling out, you actually HAVE to spend more and more, every time you have to. Why? Because if you don't, all the money you have spent earlier will be useless. This is the classic casino way EA has gotten us used to. They got yelled at when they pulled the rope too much on big games like Battlefront, so they got **** and they're getting extremely predatory on lesser means, like this game.
Just because you have spent money in the past does not mean you have to spend more money to protect that lost investment. No matter how much money you put in this game, the only return you get is the ability to rank higher in the Squad Arena. You know you will never see a profit. I believe this is almost (but not quite) what they call the Sunk Cost Fallacy.
Money spent in this game is a recreational expense, it is not an investment.
Well, sure, I know that. In fact, I've never spent a single penny on this game. I have a quite different idea of "recreational". But you know, some people don't get it that way and they might get a little bit upset to see their previous "recreational expenses" being rendered useless after a couple months. Of course, recreational expenses are meant to be this way: technically pointless, obviously not profitable and so on. But you perfectly know that some people don't get it this way and they're simply pooping on the face of these people, sqeezing out of them every tiny bit of "recreational expenses" they can (or sadly cannot, but still spend) afford. That's shady and disrespectful to say the least.
That's what some people are getting wrong. Once you start whaling out, you actually HAVE to spend more and more, every time you have to. Why? Because if you don't, all the money you have spent earlier will be useless.
That is so obviously wrong that I'm almost wondering if you're actually trolling or not ... ?
Instead of wondering, you could argue. Just a suggestion, tho.
That's what some people are getting wrong. Once you start whaling out, you actually HAVE to spend more and more, every time you have to. Why? Because if you don't, all the money you have spent earlier will be useless.
That is so obviously wrong that I'm almost wondering if you're actually trolling or not ... ?
Instead of wondering, you could argue. Just a suggestion, tho.
I don't want to argue with anyone.
I am happy to discuss and debate with someone who isn't a troll, though. But I still can't tell.
Wait, so we get 2 days notice for a 2 day event requiring 2 sets of Journey characters, including the Journey characters themselves, for a character that we still haven't even seen the kit of? And it only unlocks the character at 5*, which you then have to buy more shards of from a store? Even for CG, this is absolutely ridiculous.
That’s one way of thinking about it.
Another way of thinking about it is that you’ve got a 3-6 month heads up for a new character and have plenty of time to farm the requirements without needing to speculate on the cost.
Generally when things either go off-topic in a dedicated megathread or when people go from voicing their opinion on a topic to degenerating into flaming, as this playerbase is wont to do.
Hey, let's give you a new toon! Oh, you barely have enough to JKR, bummer. Oh, you didn't get Darth Revan, bummer. Let's make it more difficult to get toons by reducing attempts. Thank you
I have spend thousands of dollars for this game in the past year. I have my JKR and DR maxed out. This new type of event is so much money grabbing (more than any other event before), it almost feels like blackmailing. To announce event just 2 days before it get released and add 2 full teams from legendary events as requirement, also required to be G12+ and on top of that the event will be only 2 days and not 7 days.... This is absolutely ridiculous and outrageous.
Lets see what it will cost us to be able to play this event:
Requirements - 17500 Toon GP.
Probably everyone using JKR and DR teams will have Jedi Knight Revan, Bastila Shan, Jolee Bindo, Darth Revan, HK-47 and Bastila Shan (Fallen) geared, so the only one left are:
We need to choose only 2 out of these 3.
T3-M4 - G12 and all omegas (no zeta) = 17715 GP
Mission Vao - G12 + 1 piece and all omegas (no zeta) = 17508 GP
Zaalbar - G12 + 1 piece and all omegas (no zeta) = 17580 GP
We need to choose only 2 out of these 3.
Canderous Ordo - G12 + 1 piece and all omegas (no zeta) = 17533 GP
Carth Onasi - G12 + 1 piece and all omegas (no zeta) = 17508 GP
Juhani - G12 and all omegas (no zeta) = 17487 GP most likely you need to put 1 piece G12+
Probably most of the people have already spend all of they gear to make DR Sith Empire team at G12+.
So if you want to gear 4 of these (probably T3-M4, Mission Vao, Carth Onasi and Juhani) you will need to buy minimum 6-7 Vault of Crystals just to be able to refresh the shops and buy every piece of gear needed in the next 3 days.
So in the conclusion what i am going to do:
1. Skip this absolutely pay to win event.
2. Wait to see how strong is Malak.
3. If my DR team get crushed by DR team + Malak = Uninstall this game for good and no more money from me to EA/CG!!!
PS: Sorry but i was always supporting you CG, but this time i really think that you guys and girls hit the bottom with this event and it is a shame....
Well now, so the p2w wall has been raised again. Oh well just keep plugging along, not paying EA and CG. my enjoyment will come when their business practices run this game I to the ground. People are leaving faster and faster, makes me laugh. It is a shame to the game was ok. Paywalls behind more paywalls, the last 4 characters that have been released were and still are out of my reach. What is funny is you have guild events like the **** TW, that makes good guilds require all players to be over geared just to compete. Then if a old small fish player that has played nearly since the beginning of the game can't keep up, oh well.
EA and CG 🖕👉👌
Wow. I get that you want the game to end, but... wow...
My thoughts on this release and upcoming changes, as a 5+M gp launch whale:
Hard node changes: doesn’t have an effect on me, really, but super poor decision given the large amount of characters peeps need to farm. Limiting new players from catching up ultimately limits the lifespan of the game. 8 attempts really isn’t that many shards guys.
New gear pieces: awesome and needed. The way they were released was shady and I got a refund on some of my crystals because of it, so I’d say we’re even. Ultimately a positive move that was rolled out in an amateurish way. Good example of not having a problem with what the devs do, just how they do it.
New TB map: finally. Why can’t this be monthly or quarterly? I’m betting it’s basically a reskin anyway. Greatly Looking forward to more reworks.
Super grand arena: not a huge fan of the game mode, too many cheaters. Play it half the time, skip it the other half. Others really like it, so glad it’s being added.
Malak release: I’ve long been annoyed that the vast difference in spending between players isn’t adequately rewarded, so very happy with this format. My only gripe is the 5* unlock and having to farm from the GET store, assuming there’s no packs, which is surprising. Not sure ftp players realize this is a sizable bone thrown to ftp players. I’m guessing the next Malak unlock will come before most of us can get him to 7* (not all, but most), meaning ftp will probably still be able to climb in arena, even if the cost/effort is increased.
Dear devs and co-players. I love our game and I am not afraid to drop some cash to help to pay your salary. In 3.5 years I have spent a little short of a 1.000$. If that makes me a whale or a dolphine I will let others deside.
My last purchase was a vault of crystals to get my charaters ready for Darth Revan.
I got DR and got hit by the new gear to gear him, just to find out that he is missing something to really work well. Now we know it is Malek and with no notice u introduce a new event where we need 10 charaters at 17500 GP each.
This is intrapment. If I want value for my money I need to use even more cash and not even if I do, I will be sure to get Malek..
I like to compete in this game, even if it cost a little cash, but when u change the rules on the go just to make more money. It makes me want to go ftp. If I do not know if I get value for my bucks, I can use them on other things.
Looking forward to seeing the Clonewars rework in action and hope that u will change the rules for participation in the Malek event
May the force be with us all. With this Malek event we really need it
Frank
Simply put, this is unethical. The price tag they associate with these things are accessible to two types of people: 1) "gamechangers" who see income off the game and thus can write a $300 toon spend off as a business expense or 2) addicts. Simply put, these are predatory business practices.
Ok - hold on a sec...how the hell are these practices “predatory” - can we actually debate this issue like adults for a change?
Most people playing this game are 18+ - we make choices like everything in life.
I am probably a bit of a whale but how does that make me an addict?
My friends spend spend 6 bucks for a Starbucks coffee full of sugar (daily) - 12 bucks on a Burger meal full of cholesterol every other day - 8 bucks for a shot of JD & Coke when they go clubbing every other week lets say? And maybe 35 bucks for a steak and chips twice a week?
But the minute a SW fan spends $$ on a game which gives heaps of enjoyment we are “addicts”???
I really don’t get people complaining....I mean F2P get a great run on swgoh - everything becomes farmable at some stage - pretty much all content is accessible after a few months so why the complaining?
I mean if you cant wait maybe 5 or so months to when Malak might possibly become more attainable - then maybe its you with the “addiction” problem? Something to think about perhaps?
I have spend thousands of dollars for this game in the past year. I have my JKR and DR maxed out. This new type of event is so much money grabbing (more than any other event before), it almost feels like blackmailing. To announce event just 2 days before it get released and add 2 full teams from legendary events as requirement, also required to be G12+ and on top of that the event will be only 2 days and not 7 days.... This is absolutely ridiculous and outrageous.
Lets see what it will cost us to be able to play this event:
Requirements - 17500 Toon GP.
Probably everyone using JKR and DR teams will have Jedi Knight Revan, Bastila Shan, Jolee Bindo, Darth Revan, HK-47 and Bastila Shan (Fallen) geared, so the only one left are:
We need to choose only 2 out of these 3.
T3-M4 - G12 and all omegas (no zeta) = 17715 GP
Mission Vao - G12 + 1 piece and all omegas (no zeta) = 17508 GP
Zaalbar - G12 + 1 piece and all omegas (no zeta) = 17580 GP
We need to choose only 2 out of these 3.
Canderous Ordo - G12 + 1 piece and all omegas (no zeta) = 17533 GP
Carth Onasi - G12 + 1 piece and all omegas (no zeta) = 17508 GP
Juhani - G12 and all omegas (no zeta) = 17487 GP most likely you need to put 1 piece G12+
Probably most of the people have already spend all of they gear to make DR Sith Empire team at G12+.
So if you want to gear 4 of these (probably T3-M4, Mission Vao, Carth Onasi and Juhani) you will need to buy minimum 6-7 Vault of Crystals just to be able to refresh the shops and buy every piece of gear needed in the next 3 days.
So in the conclusion what i am going to do:
1. Skip this absolutely pay to win event.
2. Wait to see how strong is Malak.
3. If my DR team get crushed by DR team + Malak = Uninstall this game for good and no more money from me to EA/CG!!!
PS: Sorry but i was always supporting you CG, but this time i really think that you guys and girls hit the bottom with this event and it is a shame....
Are the GPs above with 5 or 6 dot mods?
Looks like you have a mod problem. I have the same toons and Carth is almost 20k with decent mods. My mission is 17488 but that's because she has not so great mods. If you already have the toons and just need to move mods for the event then why not go for it?
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That said this is total ****. Terrible move and just a evil ting to do to people. I spent $$ to get DR which I rarely do, now you going to punish my DR team through shan buff and require me to get this guy with a completely new way of obtaining a character. one in which I would need 3 more zetas to get. With on a few days warning.
This might be it for me, I dont know if I can keep supporting this.
I have a pc with a bunch of indie games that are not ran be evil **** that I can play instead of the cash grab ****.
You're just throwing you your money away for entertainment. It's like buying lottery tickets and calling it an investment, or like buying Madden 15, 16, 17, 18 and calling it an investment.
Just sayin
You must be new. Check out reddit if you want to speak more openly
This wins the internet for me today.
Edit: except it didn't let me quote the actual picture that went with that. **** you, cell phone interface!
Lmao at those guys calling this an investment. Whatever makes them happy
Well, sure, I know that. In fact, I've never spent a single penny on this game. I have a quite different idea of "recreational". But you know, some people don't get it that way and they might get a little bit upset to see their previous "recreational expenses" being rendered useless after a couple months. Of course, recreational expenses are meant to be this way: technically pointless, obviously not profitable and so on. But you perfectly know that some people don't get it this way and they're simply pooping on the face of these people, sqeezing out of them every tiny bit of "recreational expenses" they can (or sadly cannot, but still spend) afford. That's shady and disrespectful to say the least.
Theres probably no point in having malak if you dont have DR so dont see the issue there.
Instead of wondering, you could argue. Just a suggestion, tho.
I don't want to argue with anyone.
I am happy to discuss and debate with someone who isn't a troll, though. But I still can't tell.
Just made an edit to correct the event starting/ending times from UTC to PDT.
That’s one way of thinking about it.
Another way of thinking about it is that you’ve got a 3-6 month heads up for a new character and have plenty of time to farm the requirements without needing to speculate on the cost.
Folks are such debbie downers...
Generally when things either go off-topic in a dedicated megathread or when people go from voicing their opinion on a topic to degenerating into flaming, as this playerbase is wont to do.
Are the GPs above with 5 or 6 dot mods?
Wow. I get that you want the game to end, but... wow...
Hard node changes: doesn’t have an effect on me, really, but super poor decision given the large amount of characters peeps need to farm. Limiting new players from catching up ultimately limits the lifespan of the game. 8 attempts really isn’t that many shards guys.
New gear pieces: awesome and needed. The way they were released was shady and I got a refund on some of my crystals because of it, so I’d say we’re even. Ultimately a positive move that was rolled out in an amateurish way. Good example of not having a problem with what the devs do, just how they do it.
New TB map: finally. Why can’t this be monthly or quarterly? I’m betting it’s basically a reskin anyway. Greatly Looking forward to more reworks.
Super grand arena: not a huge fan of the game mode, too many cheaters. Play it half the time, skip it the other half. Others really like it, so glad it’s being added.
Malak release: I’ve long been annoyed that the vast difference in spending between players isn’t adequately rewarded, so very happy with this format. My only gripe is the 5* unlock and having to farm from the GET store, assuming there’s no packs, which is surprising. Not sure ftp players realize this is a sizable bone thrown to ftp players. I’m guessing the next Malak unlock will come before most of us can get him to 7* (not all, but most), meaning ftp will probably still be able to climb in arena, even if the cost/effort is increased.
My last purchase was a vault of crystals to get my charaters ready for Darth Revan.
I got DR and got hit by the new gear to gear him, just to find out that he is missing something to really work well. Now we know it is Malek and with no notice u introduce a new event where we need 10 charaters at 17500 GP each.
This is intrapment. If I want value for my money I need to use even more cash and not even if I do, I will be sure to get Malek..
I like to compete in this game, even if it cost a little cash, but when u change the rules on the go just to make more money. It makes me want to go ftp. If I do not know if I get value for my bucks, I can use them on other things.
Looking forward to seeing the Clonewars rework in action and hope that u will change the rules for participation in the Malek event
May the force be with us all. With this Malek event we really need it
Frank
I am retiring from this madness.
Who's got delusions of grandeur now?
Looks like you have a mod problem. I have the same toons and Carth is almost 20k with decent mods. My mission is 17488 but that's because she has not so great mods. If you already have the toons and just need to move mods for the event then why not go for it?