Let's argue on characters tags !
As I know many will disagree I just want this to be more of a debate more than a bashing :
As time goes by, characters are something getting new tags/changing their tags. I don't know if many of you remember of the huge debate before Old Ben rework and the fact he gained the rebel tag but it was basically the same as I'm going to propose.
Why wouldn't Sidious get a Separatist Tag ?
I'll weigh the pros and cons :
- Yes because : he was the true leader, behind everyone back. He gave orders to Dooku and then General Greivous and finally to Anakin and manipulated everyone to achieve his ultimate goal.
- No because as stated before, he wasn't the official face of the CSI and he probably would have killed separatists if they were in his direct way.
Why wouldn't Assaj get a Sith tag ?
- Yes because she was a Sith apprentice, as Maul and Savage and she used the training, even limited, of her master to become strong. She even eventually became so strong that Sidious felt the threat and asked Dooku to kill her, which he failed to do so. She then seeked revenge, as a Sith would do.
- No because she was an apprentice, again as Maul and Savage.
Why wouldn't Maul and Savage get the Separatist tag ?
- Yes because they were apprentice of Sith leading the separatist (respectively Sidious and Tyranus), they were the premise of it. Separatist appeared around that time with Nute leading them after receiving order from Sidious.
- No because they eventually turned their back and went on their own ways to get revenge on the people who betrayed them.
But for all of them, it still makes sense to add the tags because they were part of the movement, as Assaj is a separatist even though she also turned on them after she was betrayed by Dooku. And to add more, we are talking for a new tag for this characters, not adjusting the abilities (maybe for sidious at least but the other were not really separatist leaders).
It would give variety to people rosters and we'll most likely still have a use for them in the Geo TB, even Sidious might be a leader of Separatist in a special mission or something (even if this is not likely to happen).
As time goes by, characters are something getting new tags/changing their tags. I don't know if many of you remember of the huge debate before Old Ben rework and the fact he gained the rebel tag but it was basically the same as I'm going to propose.
Why wouldn't Sidious get a Separatist Tag ?
I'll weigh the pros and cons :
- Yes because : he was the true leader, behind everyone back. He gave orders to Dooku and then General Greivous and finally to Anakin and manipulated everyone to achieve his ultimate goal.
- No because as stated before, he wasn't the official face of the CSI and he probably would have killed separatists if they were in his direct way.
Why wouldn't Assaj get a Sith tag ?
- Yes because she was a Sith apprentice, as Maul and Savage and she used the training, even limited, of her master to become strong. She even eventually became so strong that Sidious felt the threat and asked Dooku to kill her, which he failed to do so. She then seeked revenge, as a Sith would do.
- No because she was an apprentice, again as Maul and Savage.
Why wouldn't Maul and Savage get the Separatist tag ?
- Yes because they were apprentice of Sith leading the separatist (respectively Sidious and Tyranus), they were the premise of it. Separatist appeared around that time with Nute leading them after receiving order from Sidious.
- No because they eventually turned their back and went on their own ways to get revenge on the people who betrayed them.
But for all of them, it still makes sense to add the tags because they were part of the movement, as Assaj is a separatist even though she also turned on them after she was betrayed by Dooku. And to add more, we are talking for a new tag for this characters, not adjusting the abilities (maybe for sidious at least but the other were not really separatist leaders).
It would give variety to people rosters and we'll most likely still have a use for them in the Geo TB, even Sidious might be a leader of Separatist in a special mission or something (even if this is not likely to happen).
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She did years ago, they changed that long ago. Visas though?
Everything else was already said by Omeah. There is no argument to be had here. The facts are the facts. People who are against facts are either ignorant or have a personal agenda, neither of whom are worth the time to argue with.
Sith empire refers to the time before the 'Rule of Two' was implemented by Darth Bane... So it stands to reason that Sion/Nihilus/Traya should receive this tag. Obviously that would make them too OP. They already have amazing synergies with each other as it is, so I understand the decision to not apply the tag.
Visas Marr, on the other hand, has no faction synergy. She was created to be the STR end all, be all healer - but her value for the raid has decreased substantially. Why not grant her the Old Republic tag to boost her viability outside of the raid?
The answer is an easy one. Could you imagine a JKR team where Jolee could rez Visas and Visas could rez Jolee?
That was exactly what/who I was thinking about
Vets should be Resistance
IG86 should not be Separatist (they were used by criminals like Ziro, Gha Nachkt [I think] etc)
Asajj is either Sith+Separatist or just Nightsister
Maul+Savage and Sideous should not be Separatist
They could get away with giving Akbar a Resistance tag
They SHOULD add Porkins
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Visas_Marr
In general I want more tags to allow more variety in synergies especially for characters with very little use.
1. Tuskens should at least be scoundrels! Why not let them work with other scoundrels?
2. Sidious should not be separatists....he should be republic! He manipulated separatists for his own ends but it seems he had every intention of destroying them in the end. And I would love to see evil republic characters. He literally directed the clones to kill all the Jedi....who were also republic...but don’t be confused...the separatists wanted Sidius dead...they just got outmaneuvered.
3. Maul could be separatist...he at least fought for them and wanted them to win...possibly not knowing Sidius full plan. (Maybe Sidius did not expect things to work out this way either?)
4. Asajh should be sith! She was not a Sith Lord but please...what a joke it is that she is not sith because she was an apprentice! Maul and Dooku were all also going through an apprenticeship....the rule of two was just a method some sith used to restrict who learned all the sith secrets. She also was a bounty hunter, though you could argue she only did that after she quit being a sith. But I see no reason for her not to work with bounty hunters....though if you wanted a second bounty hunter version of her I’d be ok with that.
Edit: What would be cool was if he didn’t even need tags. Imagine he had a unique ability that allows him to synergies with any team. At the cost of hurting active non Sith characters. Ultimate plug and play character, with a decent leadership.
While we are at it here are some other characters I feel are missing tags.