When does lock in actually occur in GAC?

turgutasfalt · July 12, 2019 5:58PM

When my matchup was determined and defense setting phase started, evening of wed. july 10, my opponent did not have jkr. But had the necessary toons ready for the event starting on july 11, 9am. Said jkr now turned up in defense. I thought lock in occurred prior to matchmaking. It evidently does not. So when does it occur?

twstdbydsn · July 12, 2019 6:06PM

Did he set JKR after the lock in or is he just showing up in his inventory after because he was able to unlock him?

turgutasfalt · July 12, 2019 6:12PM

As i said, he did not have jkr activated when he was matched up with me. I personally checked his roster, made a dsr bot comparison showing a distinct lack of jkr, and then a freshly hatched g7 jkr with lead zeta under bastila lead was set in defense. Lol.

flux_rono · July 12, 2019 6:15PM

as far as i know rosters are set in once you can see your opponent (aka defense day). so from what you say with revan on defense that would mean their is a wording error and hes not on defense but "in his current roster, usable only outside of GA"

flux_rono · July 12, 2019 6:16PM

turgutasfalt wrote: »

As i said, he did not have jkr activated when he was matched up with me. I personally checked his roster, made a dsr bot comparison showing a distinct lack of jkr, and then a freshly hatched g8 jkr with lead zeta under bastila lead was set in defense. Lol.

can you show the defense/bot comparision?

No_Try · July 12, 2019 6:17PM

Lock occurs at the very time you are able to start setting up defenses and not when you apply to the event.

turgutasfalt · July 12, 2019 6:19PM

Luckily, he set it in defense, so i can show it. There is no way to show what was used in offense.
I could also copy paste the bot comparison, if that helps.

flux_rono · July 12, 2019 6:24PM

turgutasfalt wrote: »

Luckily, he set it in defense, so i can show it. There is no way to show what was used in offense.
I could also copy paste the bot comparison, if that helps.

yes please do..
also i just thought with the bot comparison it also depends on when swgoh.gg was last updated. you could have seen it when revan wasn't actually their

The_Darkchyld · July 12, 2019 6:33PM

I'm also curious about this, since the person I am facing, when inspected is running a cls, han, chewie team. I attacked him with my cls, han chewie. His speed in order of cls, han, chewie are 244, 148, 180. Mine are 249, 237, 217.

We have all the Zetas and yet his han got shoots first off on my han FIRST, and systematically tore me a new one and yet I have higher speed and better mods on all the characters

turgutasfalt · July 12, 2019 6:34PM

turgutasfalt · July 12, 2019 6:34PM

turgutasfalt · July 12, 2019 6:35PM

turgutasfalt · July 12, 2019 6:36PM

as you can see the bot comparison happened jul 10, 23h49. showing no revan. prior to this i personally checked the roster as well

turgutasfalt · July 12, 2019 6:39PM

i also just now reached out to my opponent asking when he activated jkr

flux_rono · July 12, 2019 6:43PM

The_Darkchyld wrote: »

I'm also curious about this, since the person I am facing, when inspected is running a cls, han, chewie team. I attacked him with my cls, han chewie. His speed in order of cls, han, chewie are 244, 148, 180. Mine are 249, 237, 217.

We have all the Zetas and yet his han got shoots first off on my han FIRST, and systematically tore me a new one and yet I have higher speed and better mods on all the characters

han shooting first doesnt matter for speed. its a coin flip. the rest i cant say other then maybe a stun messed you up

flux_rono · July 12, 2019 6:44PM

turgutasfalt wrote: »

as you can see the bot comparison happened jul 10, 23h49. showing no revan. prior to this i personally checked the roster as well

intresting but still it does depend on when swgoh.g updated....otherwise idk intresting question

turgutasfalt · July 12, 2019 6:51PM

so i must have personally overlooked the g7 jkr when checking his roster. possible.

AND he must have activated jkr after the last sync with swgoh.gg but prior to matchup. possible. meh

flux_rono · July 12, 2019 6:59PM

turgutasfalt wrote: »

so i must have personally overlooked the g7 jkr when checking his roster. possible.

AND he must have activated jkr after the last sync with swgoh.gg but prior to matchup. possible. meh

just saying the swgoh.gg is a possiblity. not likely but possibly.

i would like to know the real answer at this point though, as the current evidence does show somethnig weird happening

turgutasfalt · July 12, 2019 6:59PM

i would certainly not activate jkr for months then put a lead zeta on him, and force him into defense under bastila. makes total sense.

turgutasfalt · July 12, 2019 7:03PM

maybe my opponent will answer. btw i don't think there is cheating involved.

Ruark_Icefire · July 12, 2019 7:04PM

Sometimes swgoh.gg takes a while to update.

No_Try · July 12, 2019 7:54PM

The_Darkchyld wrote: »

I'm also curious about this, since the person I am facing, when inspected is running a cls, han, chewie team. I attacked him with my cls, han chewie. His speed in order of cls, han, chewie are 244, 148, 180. Mine are 249, 237, 217.

We have all the Zetas and yet his han got shoots first off on my han FIRST, and systematically tore me a new one and yet I have higher speed and better mods on all the characters

Which Han shoots first is a coin toss independant of speed.

No_Try · July 12, 2019 7:55PM

turgutasfalt wrote: »

maybe my opponent will answer. btw i don't think there is cheating involved.

How would one even cheat that? Don't forget lock occurs much later then when the event starts, a day later. And you can only make sure what he has by directly browsing his roster at that time.

KvotheQGBQG2 · July 12, 2019 7:58PM

DSR bot does not pull from GG, it pulls directly from the API. DSR bot will show more info that GG will because GG requires a profile be setup on it whereas DSR does not.

turgutasfalt · July 12, 2019 8:13PM

No_Try wrote: »

turgutasfalt wrote: »

maybe my opponent will answer. btw i don't think there is cheating involved.

How would one even cheat that? Don't forget lock occurs much later then when the event starts, a day later. And you can only make sure what he has by directly browsing his roster at that time.

i have no idea how one could cheat. I am not forgetting anything here. i want to know if the system works as intended, i.e. lock in prior to matchmaking, or if it is still tight like a sieve.

turgutasfalt · July 12, 2019 9:52PM

My opponent declined the invitation to chat, so there will be no info from him about when he activated revan.
The way he modded and developped his roster i guess it is possible that he completed the jkr event prior to match up, and then forgot to activate him until shortly prior to lock in. Then i totally was not capable of filtering for jedi and recognize the jkr. Not that i face this char in arena 5x per day for months and scan for it cuz relevancy. Then the bot missed sneaky pete revan as well.

Ergo, lockin works as intended. Thanks for listening.

Tamtel_Skreej · July 13, 2019 1:58PM

This happened to a guild mate of mine. GAC locked, JKR event came about and they unlocked but were still able to set on def. Seems like a bug to me.

turgutasfalt · October 18, 2019 11:53AM

lol

GJO · October 18, 2019 2:56PM

Lockdown occurs either when the player goes to GA page and opens it or when he restart the game (gets the initial page).
If he stayed with game open and didn't open his GA page, he can do it.
They're moving to lockdown to the moment players aplly for GA, but it will be 2 weeks from now.

Jpfit262 · October 18, 2019 5:40PM

Some folks are reporting that they were able to put malak on defense.... and the event is already well past the join period so yea

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