Hello,
I know this topic has been created loads of times but i also wanted to show whats i m experiencing. Since the beginning of GA, i only lost 2 matchs. Now since this GAC, i already lost 2 rounds previous week. One vs a 5.3 and 1 vs a 5.5.
-> im 4.8m.
I dont face collectionner, i face people who are competitor and who are in top guilds (mighty wallet, starfoge jedha, wolfpack of bosskanda, etc ..)
The problem with the new matchmaking calculation is it only takes in considerations top 80 gp toons. But it doesnt take care of numbers of g12, g13 and mods. Matchup i have arent fair at all.
My opponents got minimum +350k and bigger got +800k.
For example is here the mods difference for the round 1 of this week :
=========== Mods ===========
6 dot Mods :: 145 vs 370
Speed+10 :: 426 vs 497
Speed+15 :: 135 vs 211
Speed+20 :: 28 vs 48
Speed+25 :: 2 vs 6
Off+100 :: 59 vs 43
Im on the left as you can except ..
When it happens once or twice ok .. but this is every week (3rd since beginning of the GAC concept).
Before i had fun with GA, now im just struggling because i havent the same amounts of toons and mods.
Im not f2p, i spent money. But muvh less than my opponents.
I spent money to have easier matchup, not much harder which make absolutely no sense. Im very sad & angry about those matchmaking.
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How much did you spend? And your opponents? What's the problem with getting an advantage if you spend money? How much do you think your previous opponents had, getting beat by you and your (I assume) mediocre roster?
According to yourself your opponents spent more. Maybe that's the way forward for you?
You mean spenders shouldn't have an advantage? How do you think that would work for the revenue of CG?
But again:
How much did your opponent spend?
It already works that way in squad arena and fleet arena. In TB and raids, the guild members who spent more get better rewards. In TW, things are a little different - as guilds are matched on GP, so the heavy spending guilds tend to go up against the heavy spending guilds. When GA was first launched it was billed as an individualized TW. But if CG is simply going to twist GAC into a modified squad arena, where those that spend get easier matchups in an effort to "encourage" spending, then IMHO, it's a failed opportunity.
The spenders have an advantage in virtually every other aspect of the game. As someone who was once a spender, I would be fine with one game mode where I actually had to be smart about the game play, understanding synergies and strategies, rather than just throw money at it and win. But hey, that might just be me.
In game guild: TNR Uprising
I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
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I would love to hear a statement about later rounds work. I was under the impression that results would be factored in as we progressed. If you did well you would face harder opponents, to determine the best of the best. If you didn’t do well you would draw easier opponents, and play with other less competitive people. While it’s still early, I’ve seen little indication of this.
Wouldn't this simply be matching only within leagues (when possible)? So we should be able to start to judge it after this round.
Yeah, there's simply no indication, it takes the matching from scratch every time.
Matching the top players from such a pool with the bottom players is really no better than matching those bottom players with the bottom players from the next League up.
So what you're saying is that matchmaking was terrible before and it gave you easy wins. Now you are complaining that it is competitive. I hope I'm reading that right.
I do understand your point of view. Rewarded in your first sentence means "had unfair advantage in matchmaking" which is not present anymore.
Sorry, that is not how this is meant to work. People who spend come higher in arena, more crystals and it is a virtuous cycle. No issue with that, good luck to them and FTP should not expect to be able to compete. Want to get in a top guild for first to beat new raids, TB best rewards etc - same. GAC was supposed to work differently.
Now possibly at that level the air is a bit rarefied (I'm a million below OP so don't know) and ability to matchmake and not face same people every time is limited, I don't know the numbers but they really shouldn't be facing that kind of differential if not.
Had unfair advantage in matchmaking ? What do you think i have currently? The 2nd smallest of my group (just above me got +350k gp and 200 more 6e than me,i ofc lost vs him in round 1). Now i face a guy with +450k, who also got better mods than me. If only that wasnt present anymore.. i wish you were right. unfortunately thats present since the beginning of this GAC.
I have seen evidence of this. My first GA round, more than half my opponents had neither Revan and all ranged from 48-81 total +10 or more speed mods. In this second GA round, they have between 54-114 +10 speed mods, all but one has Jedi Revan, and a few have Darth Revan. I would expect this trend to continue in later rounds if I keep winning.
I believe they are choosing GA opponents from the same leagues. This means that the first GA round, you’re matched against everyone. For the second round, half are matched with players in Carbonite league and half with players in Bronzium. Week 3 matchups should further separate, with the top third of players matched with other Chromium players. And in the last week of the championship, matches should be most even and most refined, with GA matches sorted into Carbonite, Bronzium, Chromium, & Aurelium based on the leagues each player is in during the matching period.
Yeah any argument made on total gp differences is safe to ignore. You never had mod advantage or g12 advantage during the GA matchmaking before? You did, you liked it and you got used to it being the norm for you.
Before i sometimes had advantages yes. Now never. And yes i had way more fun when matchmaking was fairer.
Yeah!
GZ for your success in the current season btw. It feels cool to see forumers in the game doing their thing.
Yeah!
GZ for your success in the current season btw. It feels cool to see forumers in the game doing their thing.
- if you focus on your top 80 toon to have a competitive roster, you will miss good mods and zeta which cant be rushed. so if you want to win in gac, you should grow slow...
- what the point of having the best roster to be in top 10 of gac if anyone can with a poor roster (as he will only face poor rosters too...)
I don't see how your poor roster idea works. Does it mean poor top X? The most obvious way to cut back on top X would be to have less zetas as that's the most significant gp bump that seperates toons with from without. And a player who has significantly less zetas than me(prolly due to playing time difference) would have little chance against me.
Not really sure what you are saying, seems to be a language barrier. Any way, matchmaking doesn't take into account which toons any of the sides has, it just cares for top X gp. Any toon with 2 zetas is the same as any other toon with 2 zetas meta or not. It also takes into account which league you are in currently. If you are doing well so far, that will make you get matched with players who are also doing well (i.e. has all the meta teams).