Some of us spend tens of thousands on this game. Even those who don’t spend, put a lot of time into this game. CG/EA shouldn’t be hiding from this. We need transparency and action. Not draconic measures.
Some of us a pend tens of thousands on this game. Even those who don’t spend, put a lot of time into this game. CG/EA shouldn’t be hiding from this. We need transparency and action. Not draconic measures.
Some of us a pend tens of thousands on this game. Even those who don’t spend, put a lot of time into this game. CG/EA shouldn’t be hiding from this. We need transparency and action. Not draconic measures.
Do you want more ppl learning how to do it?
It’s too late for that. Players in top guilds are already doing it in TW. CG needs to be exposed so they finally do something about this.
Some of us a pend tens of thousands on this game. Even those who don’t spend, put a lot of time into this game. CG/EA shouldn’t be hiding from this. We need transparency and action. Not draconic measures.
Do you want more ppl learning how to do it?
It’s too late for that. Players in top guilds are already doing it in TW. CG needs to be exposed so they finally do something about this.
I guarantee hundreds, maybe thousands of ppl who never even thought about cheating are now aware of the possibility because of the vids
Some of us a pend tens of thousands on this game. Even those who don’t spend, put a lot of time into this game. CG/EA shouldn’t be hiding from this. We need transparency and action. Not draconic measures.
Do you want more ppl learning how to do it?
It’s too late for that. Players in top guilds are already doing it in TW. CG needs to be exposed so they finally do something about this.
I guarantee hundreds, maybe thousands of ppl who never even thought about cheating are now aware of the possibility because of the vids
I know now its possible.. and I wont do it. I just end all cash until I am 100% confirmed this gets fixed. Hiding info isnt fixing it
Some of us a pend tens of thousands on this game. Even those who don’t spend, put a lot of time into this game. CG/EA shouldn’t be hiding from this. We need transparency and action. Not draconic measures.
Do you want more ppl learning how to do it?
It’s too late for that. Players in top guilds are already doing it in TW.
Some of us a pend tens of thousands on this game. Even those who don’t spend, put a lot of time into this game. CG/EA shouldn’t be hiding from this. We need transparency and action. Not draconic measures.
Do you want more ppl learning how to do it?
It’s too late for that. Players in top guilds are already doing it in TW. CG needs to be exposed so they finally do something about this.
I guarantee hundreds, maybe thousands of ppl who never even thought about cheating are now aware of the possibility because of the vids
I know now its possible.. and I wont do it. I just end all cash until I am 100% confirmed this gets fixed. Hiding info isnt fixing it
Maybe I'm worried about terrorism...should the Gov't tell us everything they're doing, and share that info with the enemy?
It's not always easy to be transparent. And if they were it would most likely hurt you and me much more than cheaters.
Some of us a pend tens of thousands on this game. Even those who don’t spend, put a lot of time into this game. CG/EA shouldn’t be hiding from this. We need transparency and action. Not draconic measures.
Do you want more ppl learning how to do it?
It’s too late for that. Players in top guilds are already doing it in TW.
Source: Thin Air
While possible and perhaps probable, as Admiral Ossel said shortly before being choked to death, "I need proof, not leads". This sort of supposition goes against the spirit of collegiality and competition.
"Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen...mostly"
Some of us a pend tens of thousands on this game. Even those who don’t spend, put a lot of time into this game. CG/EA shouldn’t be hiding from this. We need transparency and action. Not draconic measures.
Do you want more ppl learning how to do it?
It’s too late for that. Players in top guilds are already doing it in TW. CG needs to be exposed so they finally do something about this.
I guarantee hundreds, maybe thousands of ppl who never even thought about cheating are now aware of the possibility because of the vids
I know now its possible.. and I wont do it. I just end all cash until I am 100% confirmed this gets fixed. Hiding info isnt fixing it
Maybe I'm worried about terrorism...should the Gov't tell us everything they're doing, and share that info with the enemy?
Did you really just compare terrorism and the methods of combating it to cheating in a video game?
Some of us a pend tens of thousands on this game. Even those who don’t spend, put a lot of time into this game. CG/EA shouldn’t be hiding from this. We need transparency and action. Not draconic measures.
Do you want more ppl learning how to do it?
It’s too late for that. Players in top guilds are already doing it in TW. CG needs to be exposed so they finally do something about this.
I guarantee hundreds, maybe thousands of ppl who never even thought about cheating are now aware of the possibility because of the vids
I know now its possible.. and I wont do it. I just end all cash until I am 100% confirmed this gets fixed. Hiding info isnt fixing it
Maybe I'm worried about terrorism...should the Gov't tell us everything they're doing, and share that info with the enemy?
Did you really just compare terrorism and the methods of combating it to cheating in a video game?
I compared 2 examples where it's not beneficial to be transparent, yes.
Some of us a pend tens of thousands on this game. Even those who don’t spend, put a lot of time into this game. CG/EA shouldn’t be hiding from this. We need transparency and action. Not draconic measures.
Do you want more ppl learning how to do it?
It’s too late for that. Players in top guilds are already doing it in TW.
Bulldog put an audio only video explaining his experience on cheating and not get caught for 2 months, nice way to raise awareness without actually showing the whole cheating thing.
Some of us a pend tens of thousands on this game. Even those who don’t spend, put a lot of time into this game. CG/EA shouldn’t be hiding from this. We need transparency and action. Not draconic measures.
Do you want more ppl learning how to do it?
It’s too late for that. Players in top guilds are already doing it in TW. CG needs to be exposed so they finally do something about this.
I guarantee hundreds, maybe thousands of ppl who never even thought about cheating are now aware of the possibility because of the vids
I know now its possible.. and I wont do it. I just end all cash until I am 100% confirmed this gets fixed. Hiding info isnt fixing it
Maybe I'm worried about terrorism...should the Gov't tell us everything they're doing, and share that info with the enemy?
Did you really just compare terrorism and the methods of combating it to cheating in a video game?
I compared 2 examples where it's not beneficial to be transparent, yes.
Your point?
They are so wildly different, it's like saying you can eat a basketball because you can eat an orange and both are the same color.
Well your argument is “in the best interest” one may cause wide spread actual harmful effects/affects if provided. The other does not because it’s a GAME. So the best interest when making a purchase in a GAME. Is to have all the information provided since it’s a luxury good. Not a decision that deals with lives.
Some of us a pend tens of thousands on this game. Even those who don’t spend, put a lot of time into this game. CG/EA shouldn’t be hiding from this. We need transparency and action. Not draconic measures.
Do you want more ppl learning how to do it?
It’s too late for that. Players in top guilds are already doing it in TW. CG needs to be exposed so they finally do something about this.
I guarantee hundreds, maybe thousands of ppl who never even thought about cheating are now aware of the possibility because of the vids
I know now its possible.. and I wont do it. I just end all cash until I am 100% confirmed this gets fixed. Hiding info isnt fixing it
Maybe I'm worried about terrorism...should the Gov't tell us everything they're doing, and share that info with the enemy?
Did you really just compare terrorism and the methods of combating it to cheating in a video game?
I compared 2 examples where it's not beneficial to be transparent, yes.
Your point?
They are so wildly different, it's like saying you can eat a basketball because you can eat an orange and both are the same color.
Some of us a pend tens of thousands on this game. Even those who don’t spend, put a lot of time into this game. CG/EA shouldn’t be hiding from this. We need transparency and action. Not draconic measures.
Do you want more ppl learning how to do it?
It’s too late for that. Players in top guilds are already doing it in TW. CG needs to be exposed so they finally do something about this.
I guarantee hundreds, maybe thousands of ppl who never even thought about cheating are now aware of the possibility because of the vids
I know now its possible.. and I wont do it. I just end all cash until I am 100% confirmed this gets fixed. Hiding info isnt fixing it
Maybe I'm worried about terrorism...should the Gov't tell us everything they're doing, and share that info with the enemy?
Did you really just compare terrorism and the methods of combating it to cheating in a video game?
I compared 2 examples where it's not beneficial to be transparent, yes.
Your point?
They are so wildly different, it's like saying you can eat a basketball because you can eat an orange and both are the same color.
Wow
Yeah, I had the same reaction when you came out with your ridiculous analogy as well.
Well your argument is “in the best interest” one may cause wide spread actual harmful effects/affects if provided. The other does not because it’s a GAME. So the best interest when making a purchase in a GAME. Is to have all the information provided since it’s a luxury good. Not a decision that deals with lives.
The impact of the negative effects is irrelevant.
It is an example where being transparent does more harm than good.
Try your argument on ppl who have invested thousands of dollars in this game.
Bulldog put an audio only video explaining his experience on cheating and not get caught for 2 months, nice way to raise awareness without actually showing the whole cheating thing.
This happened after EA copyright striked his original video.
Also in McMole's video he neither mentions where to get the cheat, nor shows the cheat's name, nor shows the actual cheat, just footage from BD. So saying "more people would start using it after watching the videos" is simply wrong.
Don't get me wrong, I actually appreciate what you did, and for bringing this issue to fore front.
I'm only explaining why I can understand as business they would want the vids taken down.
I hope reasonable discussion continues.
I have no problem with anyone who disagrees with my opinion that this needs to be exposed. It’s a reasonable view to believe this will increase cheating and hurt the game. I personally think you’d be crazy to cheat now, because CG is going to crack down as much as they possibly can. We will just have to see.
Some of us a pend tens of thousands on this game. Even those who don’t spend, put a lot of time into this game. CG/EA shouldn’t be hiding from this. We need transparency and action. Not draconic measures.
Do you want more ppl learning how to do it?
It’s too late for that. Players in top guilds are already doing it in TW. CG needs to be exposed so they finally do something about this.
I guarantee hundreds, maybe thousands of ppl who never even thought about cheating are now aware of the possibility because of the vids
I know now its possible.. and I wont do it. I just end all cash until I am 100% confirmed this gets fixed. Hiding info isnt fixing it
Well gee, as long as you won't do it, we're all safe!
Also in McMole's video he neither mentions where to get the cheat, nor shows the cheat's name, nor shows the actual cheat, just footage from BD. So saying "more people would start using it after watching the videos" is simply wrong.
It doesn't matter that he didn't lay out the breadcrumbs, people who learn about the possibility from the video will be able to find it themselves.
Don't get me wrong, I actually appreciate what you did, and for bringing this issue to fore front.
I'm only explaining why I can understand as business they would want the vids taken down.
I hope reasonable discussion continues.
I have no problem with anyone who disagrees with my opinion that this needs to be exposed. It’s a reasonable view to believe this will increase cheating and hurt the game. I personally think you’d be crazy to cheat now, because CG is going to crack down as much as they possibly can. We will just have to see.
I hope you're right! I do think we'll be better off in the long run because of your vid.
Some of us a pend tens of thousands on this game. Even those who don’t spend, put a lot of time into this game. CG/EA shouldn’t be hiding from this. We need transparency and action. Not draconic measures.
Do you want more ppl learning how to do it?
It’s too late for that. Players in top guilds are already doing it in TW. CG needs to be exposed so they finally do something about this.
I guarantee hundreds, maybe thousands of ppl who never even thought about cheating are now aware of the possibility because of the vids
I know now its possible.. and I wont do it. I just end all cash until I am 100% confirmed this gets fixed. Hiding info isnt fixing it
Well gee, as long as you won't do it, we're all safe!
Also in McMole's video he neither mentions where to get the cheat, nor shows the cheat's name, nor shows the actual cheat, just footage from BD. So saying "more people would start using it after watching the videos" is simply wrong.
It doesn't matter that he didn't lay out the breadcrumbs, people who learn about the possibility from the video will be able to find it themselves.
People learned as soon as BD's video hit youtube. It's all over the forums, what more is there to hide?
Some of us a pend tens of thousands on this game. Even those who don’t spend, put a lot of time into this game. CG/EA shouldn’t be hiding from this. We need transparency and action. Not draconic measures.
Do you want more ppl learning how to do it?
It’s too late for that. Players in top guilds are already doing it in TW. CG needs to be exposed so they finally do something about this.
I guarantee hundreds, maybe thousands of ppl who never even thought about cheating are now aware of the possibility because of the vids
I know now its possible.. and I wont do it. I just end all cash until I am 100% confirmed this gets fixed. Hiding info isnt fixing it
Maybe I'm worried about terrorism...should the Gov't tell us everything they're doing, and share that info with the enemy?
It's not always easy to be transparent. And if they were it would most likely hurt you and me much more than cheaters.
Terrorism and cheating isnt the same my friend, 1 puts lives in danger other gives unfair advantage to people with out talent
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Do you want more ppl learning how to do it?
It’s too late for that. Players in top guilds are already doing it in TW. CG needs to be exposed so they finally do something about this.
I guarantee hundreds, maybe thousands of ppl who never even thought about cheating are now aware of the possibility because of the vids
I know now its possible.. and I wont do it. I just end all cash until I am 100% confirmed this gets fixed. Hiding info isnt fixing it
Maybe I'm worried about terrorism...should the Gov't tell us everything they're doing, and share that info with the enemy?
It's not always easy to be transparent. And if they were it would most likely hurt you and me much more than cheaters.
While possible and perhaps probable, as Admiral Ossel said shortly before being choked to death, "I need proof, not leads". This sort of supposition goes against the spirit of collegiality and competition.
Did you really just compare terrorism and the methods of combating it to cheating in a video game?
I compared 2 examples where it's not beneficial to be transparent, yes.
Your point?
There’s at least 1...
True. Don't see how that's relevant to the conversation, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PWtrh34kdI
They are so wildly different, it's like saying you can eat a basketball because you can eat an orange and both are the same color.
Wow
Yeah, I had the same reaction when you came out with your ridiculous analogy as well.
The impact of the negative effects is irrelevant.
It is an example where being transparent does more harm than good.
Try your argument on ppl who have invested thousands of dollars in this game.
This happened after EA copyright striked his original video.
Also in McMole's video he neither mentions where to get the cheat, nor shows the cheat's name, nor shows the actual cheat, just footage from BD. So saying "more people would start using it after watching the videos" is simply wrong.
EA attempting to contain the fallout in the worst way possible.
Don't get me wrong, I actually appreciate what you did, and for bringing this issue to fore front.
I'm only explaining why I can understand as business they would want the vids taken down.
I hope reasonable discussion continues.
I have no problem with anyone who disagrees with my opinion that this needs to be exposed. It’s a reasonable view to believe this will increase cheating and hurt the game. I personally think you’d be crazy to cheat now, because CG is going to crack down as much as they possibly can. We will just have to see.
Well gee, as long as you won't do it, we're all safe!
It doesn't matter that he didn't lay out the breadcrumbs, people who learn about the possibility from the video will be able to find it themselves.
I hope you're right! I do think we'll be better off in the long run because of your vid.
People learned as soon as BD's video hit youtube. It's all over the forums, what more is there to hide?
Terrorism and cheating isnt the same my friend, 1 puts lives in danger other gives unfair advantage to people with out talent