Does anyone else find the clone rework REALLY disappointing
To me it just seems very rushed. The abilities are unfitting of the characters, they don’t really mesh together and don’t represent the tight-knit clone team that works together.
First off the presentation is just really sloppy. Tactical awareness is a bad name for a self sacrificing ability, the name really should’ve been changed. Echo’s emp doesn’t even say how many turns it stuns droids for. Fives’ uniques both have the same ‘old text’, when one of them is a new unique. None of these things are issues for me it’s just that they just hint that this post and the rework was really rushed
Rex’s instakill is a cheap mechanic. It just seems like they didn’t have enough damage so decided to give them one massive ability. The team will just be waiting for Rex’s instakill rather than working together to defeat the enemy. Not fun to play with. Its also not true to form. A clone that can one shot anything in the game, Just seems random and lazy. Nihilus has a fitting ohko. He is a sith who destroyed planets. Rex was a hard working team player and leader not an offensive beast who could kill anything in one. Anyway I’m not against a huge damage ability but it’s just too much. Surely 10% max health would suffice.
Also his potency up to one random character for 1 turn also just seems random and not useful at all.
Fives unique isn’t fitting. Fives didn’t sacrifice himself for his friends he died knowing too much. Again seems rushed and tenuous to the Star Wars character. It’s also just not a very good ability, people will just kill fives first to avoid Rex and echo’s bonuses. He’s just a tank now which is fine but those bonuses will be mostly unused so the ability seems a bit pointless to me.
Echo to me seems to be a bit useless, yes he’s worth having for the 20% crit chance but his other abilities seem really situational and not generally useful - he can dispel buffs and deal damage if targets evade, provide a little tm with some basics, but I don’t know what he’s really giving you consistently to push the team along.
I really think they didn’t have enough time or ideas to make a cool team.
This is all with the BIG caveat that there is definitely other 501st stuff on the way like general anakin who will give the team more synergy and identity, but I’m just not feeling the love for this trio whose abilities are just a bit random and disconnected. Personally I’m really disappointed. Geos got one of the best reworks the game has ever seen, that can pretty much defeat any team, and they’re bugs.... clones are SO much cooler. I would have loved to have invested in them but now I think I’ll just save for Ep 9 which just isn’t as cool.
First off the presentation is just really sloppy. Tactical awareness is a bad name for a self sacrificing ability, the name really should’ve been changed. Echo’s emp doesn’t even say how many turns it stuns droids for. Fives’ uniques both have the same ‘old text’, when one of them is a new unique. None of these things are issues for me it’s just that they just hint that this post and the rework was really rushed
Rex’s instakill is a cheap mechanic. It just seems like they didn’t have enough damage so decided to give them one massive ability. The team will just be waiting for Rex’s instakill rather than working together to defeat the enemy. Not fun to play with. Its also not true to form. A clone that can one shot anything in the game, Just seems random and lazy. Nihilus has a fitting ohko. He is a sith who destroyed planets. Rex was a hard working team player and leader not an offensive beast who could kill anything in one. Anyway I’m not against a huge damage ability but it’s just too much. Surely 10% max health would suffice.
Also his potency up to one random character for 1 turn also just seems random and not useful at all.
Fives unique isn’t fitting. Fives didn’t sacrifice himself for his friends he died knowing too much. Again seems rushed and tenuous to the Star Wars character. It’s also just not a very good ability, people will just kill fives first to avoid Rex and echo’s bonuses. He’s just a tank now which is fine but those bonuses will be mostly unused so the ability seems a bit pointless to me.
Echo to me seems to be a bit useless, yes he’s worth having for the 20% crit chance but his other abilities seem really situational and not generally useful - he can dispel buffs and deal damage if targets evade, provide a little tm with some basics, but I don’t know what he’s really giving you consistently to push the team along.
I really think they didn’t have enough time or ideas to make a cool team.
This is all with the BIG caveat that there is definitely other 501st stuff on the way like general anakin who will give the team more synergy and identity, but I’m just not feeling the love for this trio whose abilities are just a bit random and disconnected. Personally I’m really disappointed. Geos got one of the best reworks the game has ever seen, that can pretty much defeat any team, and they’re bugs.... clones are SO much cooler. I would have loved to have invested in them but now I think I’ll just save for Ep 9 which just isn’t as cool.
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I think you're underestimating how usefull it will be.
I don't think there's a single team out there of which i kill the tank first, or not atleast attempt to kill another character on the team first. I think that's noteworthy, but it could also mean i'm a noob ;p
On top of that, 5s is going to be a major pain to kill. I'm still open for the possibility that it's actually easier to kill another teammember first and deal with the bonusses instead of killing 5s first.
Anyway, i'm eager to find out how good the team will be so needless to say i'm (still) quite excited about the rework. Maybe it will suck though, haha.
I don’t think so because killing other 501sts will just kill 5s anyway so you might as well kill 5s directlyand avoid the huge bonuses. You can kill non 501st clones tho.
You need to chew through less health and protection, though. Also, Fives counters.
i missed the part about 501st only. Re-read the kit and it seems i also missed they get 5s max health and prot, thought it was only speed and offense. Just ignore my previous comment, haha.
1 - they can’t help what it seems like to you, i mean it’s at least been in the works since we got shaak ti as a leader , she was a clear indication that the future of clones was as a combination team. Not pure clones.
2 - why do abilities have to reflect the nature of the tv show? Like every video game ever made in Star Wars , it cant be like it is in movies otherwise every lightsaber hit is a death or amputation.
3 how do you propose using that as an ability ?
4 his giving 20 percent turn meter to the weakest ally every move from the clones is pretty great sounding
5 coolness counts for nothing.
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1 I mean that doesn’t mean they thought through the reworks properly
2 I mean game characters are supposed to represent Star Wars characters in some way. Literally EVERY character is designed that way and 5s and Rex are attempted to too. It’s just a fail in that sense. But yeah Anakin gains boosts when allies are in trouble. Nighsisters revive. Nihilus annihilates. Nute Gunray extorts. Grievous feeds off his droids. Every name of an ability and ability represents the character in some way. I mean they’re only, you know, representations of characters... you know.. representing them. And these reworks are not a good representation.
3. I’m not saying it should be represented I’m just saying the attempted representation is wrong.
4 it’s only on basic and imo that’s not really that good
5 err why not? Do you prefer boring things?
Erm they just released the kits? You know......... telling us how they will function...........
I don’t think so because all the clones are LS. I think it will be general anakin hence why current anakin didn’t get the 501st tag.
The thing is I’m not displeased they’re bad as we don’t even know what general anakin’s leader or abilities are, I’m just annoyed they’re not fitting for clones and their abilities are just a bit stupid. I mean a Rex instakill of 1000% max health is ridiculous
I like the reworks, they seem great to me. Gives the team a purpose and use.
And 5s zeta is just awesome and lore friendly and cool. Not gonna lie that "Same heart, Same Blood" would be a cooler name, but I'll take the current form.
Yea ya but you haven’t seen them actually work. No one realized ( save for 1 guy) how crazy jolee was going to make that team before it was actually playable. Initial grevous release was way over hyped before it was playable. You’re making the same mistake. Give it a go. And echo assists constantly using basic. So in effect multiple players will be feeding the turn meter , not to mention his counters and the call assists.
I mean they will be a good team because general anakin will have a really powerful kit, especially leader, and Rex has a oneshot, but I just think these reworks are silly. You can’t say rex’s Instakill is not trash. Thematically and game design wise.
Rjt was never really meta. You could use her if you wanted, or you could just keep cls.
Then she was totally replaced by ep very quickly
They will probably release a clone medic to use and some other 501st guy.
Then, a legendary event.
Then a mythic event using Padmé too.
The point was that ppl complained about her kit before she was even released. Afterward she turned out to be a powerhouse.
Even in the last few months she has been relevant to the meta as an early counter to jkr with droids/chewie.
Bottom line: you can't know for sure until you see it in the game.
Any unit with an ability that feeds turnmeter to the team is going to be a powerhouse or a keystone character in that faction.
Examples include JTR, BB8, Zep, Rex, etc.
I mean this has sorta been known for awhile, so from now on it’s just safe to assume that any kit with a TM feed somewhere is going to be at least decent.
Yeah... did you read the quote to which I was replying?