Very good response that it deserves its own post. Releasing Relics right after G13 wasn't a good idea, but it's not the worst thing ever, as people are claiming.
Wow, the complaints. You're all crying because you can't max everything day 1 without spending. Obviously. The attitude I see is the majority of you have a quitters personality.
It's not that bad, really.
Relic 1: It's a gimme. You have plenty of the garbage gear for this to take everyone instantly to this level.
Relic 2 - 4: More garbage gear that players have a ton of. You just need to farm the signal pieces that have a great drop rate.
Relic 5: Same as 4, but you need a new piece. Use the fully crafted holo projector to get the most bang for your buck. Basically you need 2 of these and signal data for this relic. I don't think anyone e would believe it's that challenging for thjs.
Relic 6 & 7: You need end game gear for this and more signal pieces. This will be the most challenging as it should be. It's the END GAME resources. Keep in mind it's not locked to a specific piece of gear so that's an improvement! Heroic Sith and TBs will always drop useful gear to salvage.
Conclusion, it's not that bad. Most of you have sticker shock and for some reason believe you're entitled to max characters upon release. Every FTP sho<led have all their gear XIII characters to level 4 within a month easily. Probably 5 if you're a competitive player. Of course 6 & 7 is where you will need to make a choice of depth or being top heavy. It's been this way since 2015.
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Because you need them at every level.
You need 1000 useless for 1 relic.
Wich mean that in 3 years, I can only bring 4 toons to Max only if the basic relic was needed...
3 years for 4 toons while you also need other pieces ...
Stop finding excuses.... It's a garbage update only for spenders.
I only have 1 G13 for 3 years in game..
I've gotten every Mk.5 Stun Gun that appears in the shard store or elsewhere from farming, raids, TB, TW etc and I currently need about 5000 of them, and I have 1, if that's not categorized by CG as an unresolved 'Gear Bottleneck' then I need some of whatever they're smokin!!
This will be a game changer, and not for the good. You have your opinion that you're entitled to, but your disconnected if you think this is a good move for the game.
I have to agree with Krueger here. The conversion rate for the excess gear isn't that amazing. These piles will be gone in short order. Still, the players have been clamoring for something to do with the excess for years and here it is. Can't complain about it too much.
It didnt take years, you weren't farming it specifically, it just happened.
Yes, forget that, because it's not a thing.
Read what people write, not what you think they wrote
But they increase power *way* too much. That alone completely negates any good thinking that went into making this. They could offer 1/3 of the increase in power they currently do, and they would still be more than worthwhile to farm up. As it stands, releasing R7 all at once just messes up the game balance.
The promised (but not yet delivered) alleviation of the carbanti/stun gun/golden eye ball crunch is borderline irrelevant. Getting to G12 doesn't do anything for you now, other than letting you unlock existing legendaries a little easier.If your character is not G13 and has access to at least a couple levels of relics, it's as useful at G12 against an R5+ toon as G8s are now against fully geared characters. So you'll get to the G13 and relic grind a touch faster with more toons. You'll just be bottlenecked farming relics for them instead. They'll look nicer while you grind, I suppose
That's not dyslexia
I don't think it will.
Most ftp that are competitive in arena already have g13. The first 4 levels of relics are achievable ftp in fairly short order. Just have to farm the signal data.
Most comparisons are saying it's broken because whales will have r7 and ftp will be stuck at g12 or g13 with no relics. But in fact it'll likely be ftp at r4 vs whales at r7 at first and then ftp at r5, r6, and r7. It will give whales an advantage but not an insurmountable one.
I believe most of those complaining probably aren't competitive in arena anyway. Don't worry there are probably less krackens in your shard than you think. Reading these complaints, you'd think that the top 500 would be only krackens when in reality it may be top 5 or top 10. Even some whales may see that spending $200 for what you can have within a month is too high for them. It'll take awhile for everyone that low to have r7 gear. And by then if you don't, it's your own fault.
Lol. Beat me to it.
I’ve been f2p since day one and got malak first go, as well as many other toons (Chewbacca, padme, etc) due to my resource management. Once the toon was obtained I could ride the wave and hoard crystals (normally about 20-25k), as well as gear and currencies until the next meta dropped.
With relics, this is not impossible. If I am not constantly spending all of my resources on this OP feature, then my meta team falls by the wayside to 225k hp Malaks.
So what are successful f2p to do? Use our resources on current meta, only to miss out on the next (and be behind in perpetuity), or hoard and slowly watch our arena rank drop?
TLDR; this is no longer a resource management game, it’s a $$$$ game.
Speaking of reading why don’t you read what dyslexia is. Besides there’s a lot of complaints that they can’t complete with people who have already done the relics, that means they are upset that they couldn’t max it right away. Re-read the the quoted shtick up there would you.
Not really. G12 finishers are easily farmed. Is it slow? Yes - but that's what being f2p is - either hoard crystals and spend when you need to, or be a little behind paying players (that's what they PAY for).
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I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
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Cantina energy accumulates at half the rate of any other energy and costs twice as much to refresh. Which means if you aren't doing any refreshes you will spend multiple days to get to relic level 5 which the OP says it's easy. All that while being forced to get to g13 to equip them. So where am I supposed to spend my few crystals now? Refreshing mods? As people like TVF and Kyno have suggested? Refreshing regular energy for g13 salvages and kyros? Or refreshing for relics? I'd like to know where I can find the energy for all that
The devs stated the drop rate is equal to that of mod slicing mats. You can choose to not believe them if you like.
Do better in arena with these relic 7 accounts, isn't that part of the complaint?
And who says that's a good drop rate? That's subjective, in my eyes it's a bad drop rate