I use my Palp team, and get halfway into the AOE strategy, but MT dies and comes back with almost full TM to do her AOE. Problem isn't the rez, it's rex with TM
Bossk or Jango lead depending on how good your gear and mods are. If you're equal with them it's a cakewalk. Zeta on Jango unique and on Boba's Execute if you wish. Two sources of non-revive plus ignoring taunt. The fights usually don't last long. Target Daka or Talzin with Jango once they're debuffed, or Boba once they have several buffs/debuffs.
False, just like before G13, the modding and gear of the troopers is what's important. I find I still have no trouble with my troopers against Nightsisters, even with G13 Assaj. What will give me a little trouble sometimes, is G13 Assaj paired with G13 Daka. However, I can still usually pull out the victory in that if the relics are at level 4 or less on them.
I intend to take my Troopers to G13, or at least certain key ones, and then test it out. I imagine everyone says "relic NS eat IT" purely because not many bother to Relic their troopers to an equal level.
My Snow already hits for 40-45k on basic with the usual Trooper buffs at G12 + left side. So he should be decent once relic'd a bit.
Than on mine? https://swgoh.gg/squads/173555/
Pretty sure my EP Vader and Tarkin got 300 combined potency before considering EP lead. TFP and Thrawn are not potent
Easiest is GAC. No revives = they all dead in seconds.
If they have at least one g11 imperial troopers is very nice.
Jango is fine. Luke/Han/Chuwie is also can manage them.
People need to stop suggesting Troopers, unless your troopers are R7. High relic Nightsisters will absolutely decimate Troopers, who are reliant on getting an early, quick kill before the opponent has a chance to move. Good luck doing that with Nightsisters having 120K+ EHP.
But that's true of most counters. They only work when similarly geared and modded. Troopers still remain the most effective counter, it's just that most people would take NS to Relic before they take Troopers so they tend to fall off late-game.
Easiest is GAC. No revives = they all dead in seconds.
If they have at least one g11 imperial troopers is very nice.
Jango is fine. Luke/Han/Chuwie is also can manage them.
Lots of answers, but it boils down to this. If your troopers are really good and you have Starck, Range, and Death in there, that's the most effective counter if similarly matched.
The second most effective counter that doesn't steal away from other powerful teams is BH with Jango and Boba. Personally, I use Embo lead with Boba, Jango, Cad, and Greedo. Embo lead allows BH to heal, which gets rid of plague more frequently. That's my go to. Works most of the time, unless the NS team is all super high relics. Works for both Asajj and Talzin leads.
Easiest is GAC. No revives = they all dead in seconds.
If they have at least one g11 imperial troopers is very nice.
Jango is fine. Luke/Han/Chuwie is also can manage them.
Can Zombie still revive when GAS is on the field?
Well, yes. But it does not really matter. As it receives daze and GAC just kills everyone else. Really like 10-20 seconds fight
Lots of answers, but it boils down to this. If your troopers are really good and you have Starck, Range, and Death in there, that's the most effective counter if similarly matched.
The second most effective counter that doesn't steal away from other powerful teams is BH with Jango and Boba. Personally, I use Embo lead with Boba, Jango, Cad, and Greedo. Embo lead allows BH to heal, which gets rid of plague more frequently. That's my go to. Works most of the time, unless the NS team is all super high relics. Works for both Asajj and Talzin leads.
Nah, don’t use troopers if you are not sure you can kill any NS in one turn. Overwise you’re dead.
But that's true of most counters. They only work when similarly geared and modded. Troopers still remain the most effective counter, it's just that most people would take NS to Relic before they take Troopers so they tend to fall off late-game.
This. No counter works if you’re G9 fighting against relics. But troopers are a very effective counter that can beat 1-2 gear tier higher teams. E.G. mine are an average of G10 and I usually don’t have any trouble against NS unless they have Relics.
Personally, if I use Palp against NS(which is fairly rare), I make sure that there is some dispel to get around Zombie taunt. I fracture MT to prevent her swarm and stop her from landing AoE plague. Shock zombie so you don't get stuck behind annoying taunt. Drop the hammer on Asajj and kill her twice since she's usually the squishiest before her health ramps up from zeta. After killing Asajj (or whoever) twice to burn zombie's sacrifice thing, then take out Daka so she won't have her revive, then kill everyone else. The key for me in taking them out with a Palp/thrawn team is keeping zombie shocked and MT in check with fracture. Also, it helps to try to keep shock on as many of the enemy as possible so Palp can gain extra TM for using his basic(15% TM per shocked enemy).
But that's true of most counters. They only work when similarly geared and modded. Troopers still remain the most effective counter, it's just that most people would take NS to Relic before they take Troopers so they tend to fall off late-game.
This. No counter works if you’re G9 fighting against relics. But troopers are a very effective counter that can beat 1-2 gear tier higher teams. E.G. mine are an average of G10 and I usually don’t have any trouble against NS unless they have Relics.
Sorry, I disagree. At R1+ (my troopers are all R1) they will not beat similarly geared NS, they're too tanky to get that initial kill. Troopers need to be over-geared to beat NS. And once NS reach R5+, I think forget about troopers altogether.
At lower gear levels, sure, I used to use them myself. I stopped after relics made NS too beefy.
I find the most reliable counter is Geonosians. Bounty Hunters and First Order work pretty well too.
I once used Troopers exclusively, but they rely on an early kill to get rolling and that just doesn't happen with g13 sisters. If the sisters have a purple gear member, you still have a shot otherwise forget it. Rangetrooper will not save you, nor will Deathtrooper or Shoretrooper. You will lose.
The second most effective counter that doesn't steal away from other powerful teams is BH with Jango and Boba. Personally, I use Embo lead with Boba, Jango, Cad, and Greedo. Embo lead allows BH to heal, which gets rid of plague more frequently. That's my go to. Works most of the time, unless the NS team is all super high relics. Works for both Asajj and Talzin leads.
Embo lead only regens health. Bossk lead regens both health and protection.
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If Asajj is g13 you’re as good as dead /w them
False, just like before G13, the modding and gear of the troopers is what's important. I find I still have no trouble with my troopers against Nightsisters, even with G13 Assaj. What will give me a little trouble sometimes, is G13 Assaj paired with G13 Daka. However, I can still usually pull out the victory in that if the relics are at level 4 or less on them.
My Snow already hits for 40-45k on basic with the usual Trooper buffs at G12 + left side. So he should be decent once relic'd a bit.
Than on mine?
https://swgoh.gg/squads/173555/
Pretty sure my EP Vader and Tarkin got 300 combined potency before considering EP lead. TFP and Thrawn are not potent
I use BH (Bossk lead, still haven't zeta'd Jango). Or if I don't need it, Padme is pretty good too. Alternatively, you could use your own NS.
I save shore for different team usually, but if in doubt, he's a good insurance policy.
If they have at least one g11 imperial troopers is very nice.
Jango is fine. Luke/Han/Chuwie is also can manage them.
Can Zombie still revive when GAS is on the field?
If you mean zombie reviving someone else then no, that should be prevented. But Zombie herself should.
The second most effective counter that doesn't steal away from other powerful teams is BH with Jango and Boba. Personally, I use Embo lead with Boba, Jango, Cad, and Greedo. Embo lead allows BH to heal, which gets rid of plague more frequently. That's my go to. Works most of the time, unless the NS team is all super high relics. Works for both Asajj and Talzin leads.
Well, yes. But it does not really matter. As it receives daze and GAC just kills everyone else. Really like 10-20 seconds fight
Nah, don’t use troopers if you are not sure you can kill any NS in one turn. Overwise you’re dead.
This. No counter works if you’re G9 fighting against relics. But troopers are a very effective counter that can beat 1-2 gear tier higher teams. E.G. mine are an average of G10 and I usually don’t have any trouble against NS unless they have Relics.
Normally though, I use FO to fight NS.
Sorry, I disagree. At R1+ (my troopers are all R1) they will not beat similarly geared NS, they're too tanky to get that initial kill. Troopers need to be over-geared to beat NS. And once NS reach R5+, I think forget about troopers altogether.
At lower gear levels, sure, I used to use them myself. I stopped after relics made NS too beefy.
I once used Troopers exclusively, but they rely on an early kill to get rolling and that just doesn't happen with g13 sisters. If the sisters have a purple gear member, you still have a shot otherwise forget it. Rangetrooper will not save you, nor will Deathtrooper or Shoretrooper. You will lose.