A game i used to play the devs gave up on their forums all together. Everything was done via twitch or some other streaming platform and they ignored their forums all together. So not surprising.
What they did this time around is not the first time they have done this. They are not ignoring the Forums by any means.
Couldnt they have posted a "check out this podcast" post?
Takes 5 minutes max. Give me 500 crystal crumb, ill make the post for you on the cheap.
lack of the specific communication you want /= zero communication
I didn't know such a podcast even existed. It's not a crazy thought that the official swgoh forums, run on the swgoh website, powered by EA, and heavily linked to in the game itself would be the location one would look to for answers and explanations. However we've had none of those. Just "Look! New toon! Look! Another new toon! Look! Charity stream!" That's not communication. That's them promoting themselves.
A game i used to play the devs gave up on their forums all together. Everything was done via twitch or some other streaming platform and they ignored their forums all together. So not surprising.
What they did this time around is not the first time they have done this. They are not ignoring the Forums by any means.
Couldnt they have posted a "check out this podcast" post?
Takes 5 minutes max. Give me 500 crystal crumb, ill make the post for you on the cheap.
A game i used to play the devs gave up on their forums all together. Everything was done via twitch or some other streaming platform and they ignored their forums all together. So not surprising.
What they did this time around is not the first time they have done this. They are not ignoring the Forums by any means.
A game i used to play the devs gave up on their forums all together. Everything was done via twitch or some other streaming platform and they ignored their forums all together. So not surprising.
What they did this time around is not the first time they have done this. They are not ignoring the Forums by any means.
A game i used to play the devs gave up on their forums all together. Everything was done via twitch or some other streaming platform and they ignored their forums all together. So not surprising.
What they did this time around is not the first time they have done this. They are not ignoring the Forums by any means.
Fun fact:
In the last 2.5 months Crumb has made 7 posts outside the "Dev Announcements and News" and "Game Updates" section to actively communicate with the forum and directly answer questions to clear things up like the Wookie tag being a hidden thing or GL's not going to be a requirement for the new GL's. The last post of this kind was 21 days ago. 7 posts in 2.5 months...that's about 0,0933 posts per day or 0,428% of TVF's activity (21,8ppd). We would need 234 Crumbs to compensate 1 TVF.
Fun fact:
In the last 2.5 months Crumb has made 7 posts outside the "Dev Announcements and News" and "Game Updates" section to actively communicate with the forum and directly answer questions to clear things up like the Wookie tag being a hidden thing or GL's not going to be a requirement for the new GL's. The last post of this kind was 21 days ago. 7 posts in 2.5 months...that's about 0,0933 posts per day or 0,428% of TVF's activity (21,8ppd). We would need 234 Crumbs to compensate 1 TVF.
I am and continue to be woefully underappreciated and under-compensated.
Fun fact:
In the last 2.5 months Crumb has made 7 posts outside the "Dev Announcements and News" and "Game Updates" section to actively communicate with the forum and directly answer questions to clear things up like the Wookie tag being a hidden thing or GL's not going to be a requirement for the new GL's. The last post of this kind was 21 days ago. 7 posts in 2.5 months...that's about 0,0933 posts per day or 0,428% of TVF's activity (21,8ppd). We would need 234 Crumbs to compensate 1 TVF.
I am and continue to be woefully underappreciated and under-compensated.
I heard there is a group you can join to discuss this.
Fun fact:
In the last 2.5 months Crumb has made 7 posts outside the "Dev Announcements and News" and "Game Updates" section to actively communicate with the forum and directly answer questions to clear things up like the Wookie tag being a hidden thing or GL's not going to be a requirement for the new GL's. The last post of this kind was 21 days ago. 7 posts in 2.5 months...that's about 0,0933 posts per day or 0,428% of TVF's activity (21,8ppd). We would need 234 Crumbs to compensate 1 TVF.
I am and continue to be woefully underappreciated and under-compensated.
I heard there is a group you can join to discuss this.
A game i used to play the devs gave up on their forums all together. Everything was done via twitch or some other streaming platform and they ignored their forums all together. So not surprising.
What they did this time around is not the first time they have done this. They are not ignoring the Forums by any means.
This was acknowledged. Yes they have not acted on it yet, but they asked and acknowledged it. not meeting arbitrary timelines =/= ignoring the forums.
That thread was started in January! So asking the community for feedback....not saying anything for months and months, then saying “ we’ll have a meeting about it” then nothing again for months and months is ok? How is that not ignoring the community??
At what point does talking to someone become ignoring them?
Also we are talking about ignoring the Forums, not the community.
A game i used to play the devs gave up on their forums all together. Everything was done via twitch or some other streaming platform and they ignored their forums all together. So not surprising.
What they did this time around is not the first time they have done this. They are not ignoring the Forums by any means.
Kyno i like you but that's absolutely not true. They absolutely ignore the forums and have completely changed up and can't even follow their own cadence.
lack of the specific communication you want /= zero communication
You can defend cg all you want but you and i both know cgs communication strategy is subpar at best. And anything contrary to that point you lose credibility.
Either you secretly work for cg and are hiding behind a member account with your massive points or you have incredibly low standards for a studio that has made billions of dollars on a mobile game.
They made several changes to GC based on feedback from the community. That's communication. As I said, it's not the communication you may have wanted, but it's wrong to claim that it isn't communication.
You can get mad about things all you want and accuse me of all sorts of stuff without any basis, but it doesn't make me wrong. Especially since I made no judgement about the quality of communication.
Did you just say making changes to gc and then relaunching them with zero explanation on their own forums whatsoever is communication?
Did you read what I wrote?
They asked for GC feedback.
We gave them feedback.
They made positive changes for us based on that feedback.
I'm sorry you don't like that it's communication, but it is.
I’ll bite.
How do you know that the changes were based on our feedback?
Let's put it this way then... Is bad communication a form of communication? To some it is but to me it is not. Is like we are talking abt eggs and Devs are answering in chicken language.
1st quarter of the year we are talking abt ART AND GL Rey and Kylo. With almost near to nothing to do but gearing toons. Not forgetting that we didn't need to relic all toons to becoming all toons reliced.
Their answer is releasing new toons. Mando toons. And finally after 6 months the announcement of Galatic challenges.
When Galatic challenges came out it flopped cause of the relic gear gate and the rewards. They fixed the rewards and removed the gear gate, but made the event harder.
JKL came out with a sound file problem
New Toons like Mom and 3PO. Having double drops for JKL event.
Now with the hype of 2 new GLs, CG went to a pod cast for an unofficial announcement. Something like a soft launch / teaser with nothing written.
Quality of life has relatively remained the same. The journey guild is a welcome changed.
Bugs are still in the game.
Cheating is a known issue with no communication of addressing it.
New packs but spending $20-50 doesn't get u a full piece of gear.
Promise of easing gear crunch but the gear grind just got tougher because all toons need to be reliced.
And the communication issue which they promised to improve since I don't know when...
So is this communication 🤔 very hard for me to say yes
A game i used to play the devs gave up on their forums all together. Everything was done via twitch or some other streaming platform and they ignored their forums all together. So not surprising.
What they did this time around is not the first time they have done this. They are not ignoring the Forums by any means.
Kyno i like you but that's absolutely not true. They absolutely ignore the forums and have completely changed up and can't even follow their own cadence.
lack of the specific communication you want /= zero communication
You can defend cg all you want but you and i both know cgs communication strategy is subpar at best. And anything contrary to that point you lose credibility.
Either you secretly work for cg and are hiding behind a member account with your massive points or you have incredibly low standards for a studio that has made billions of dollars on a mobile game.
They made several changes to GC based on feedback from the community. That's communication. As I said, it's not the communication you may have wanted, but it's wrong to claim that it isn't communication.
You can get mad about things all you want and accuse me of all sorts of stuff without any basis, but it doesn't make me wrong. Especially since I made no judgement about the quality of communication.
Did you just say making changes to gc and then relaunching them with zero explanation on their own forums whatsoever is communication?
Did you read what I wrote?
They asked for GC feedback.
We gave them feedback.
They made positive changes for us based on that feedback.
I'm sorry you don't like that it's communication, but it is.
I’ll bite.
How do you know that the changes were based on our feedback?
Because they reflect most of the complaints leveled against the GCs? You honestly think it's just a lucky coincidence?
Look, I'm all for holding CG's feet to the fire when they mess up - but they are getting GCs right. Slowly, sure, but it's movement in the right direction - one that many asked for.
In game name: Lucas Gregory FORMER PLAYER - - - -"Whale blah grump poooop." - Ouchie
In game guild: TNR Uprising I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
*This space left intentionally blank*
A game i used to play the devs gave up on their forums all together. Everything was done via twitch or some other streaming platform and they ignored their forums all together. So not surprising.
What they did this time around is not the first time they have done this. They are not ignoring the Forums by any means.
Kyno i like you but that's absolutely not true. They absolutely ignore the forums and have completely changed up and can't even follow their own cadence.
lack of the specific communication you want /= zero communication
You can defend cg all you want but you and i both know cgs communication strategy is subpar at best. And anything contrary to that point you lose credibility.
Either you secretly work for cg and are hiding behind a member account with your massive points or you have incredibly low standards for a studio that has made billions of dollars on a mobile game.
They made several changes to GC based on feedback from the community. That's communication. As I said, it's not the communication you may have wanted, but it's wrong to claim that it isn't communication.
You can get mad about things all you want and accuse me of all sorts of stuff without any basis, but it doesn't make me wrong. Especially since I made no judgement about the quality of communication.
Did you just say making changes to gc and then relaunching them with zero explanation on their own forums whatsoever is communication?
Did you read what I wrote?
They asked for GC feedback.
We gave them feedback.
They made positive changes for us based on that feedback.
I'm sorry you don't like that it's communication, but it is.
I’ll bite.
How do you know that the changes were based on our feedback?
Because they reflect most of the complaints leveled against the GCs? You honestly think it's just a lucky coincidence?
Look, I'm all for holding CG's feet to the fire when they mess up - but they are getting GCs right. Slowly, sure, but it's movement in the right direction - one that many asked for.
the Resistance one was the only one that had increased rewards, right? Are any GCs currently running or scheduled?
A game i used to play the devs gave up on their forums all together. Everything was done via twitch or some other streaming platform and they ignored their forums all together. So not surprising.
What they did this time around is not the first time they have done this. They are not ignoring the Forums by any means.
Kyno i like you but that's absolutely not true. They absolutely ignore the forums and have completely changed up and can't even follow their own cadence.
lack of the specific communication you want /= zero communication
You can defend cg all you want but you and i both know cgs communication strategy is subpar at best. And anything contrary to that point you lose credibility.
Either you secretly work for cg and are hiding behind a member account with your massive points or you have incredibly low standards for a studio that has made billions of dollars on a mobile game.
They made several changes to GC based on feedback from the community. That's communication. As I said, it's not the communication you may have wanted, but it's wrong to claim that it isn't communication.
You can get mad about things all you want and accuse me of all sorts of stuff without any basis, but it doesn't make me wrong. Especially since I made no judgement about the quality of communication.
Did you just say making changes to gc and then relaunching them with zero explanation on their own forums whatsoever is communication?
Did you read what I wrote?
They asked for GC feedback.
We gave them feedback.
They made positive changes for us based on that feedback.
I'm sorry you don't like that it's communication, but it is.
I’ll bite.
How do you know that the changes were based on our feedback?
Because they reflect most of the complaints leveled against the GCs? You honestly think it's just a lucky coincidence?
Look, I'm all for holding CG's feet to the fire when they mess up - but they are getting GCs right. Slowly, sure, but it's movement in the right direction - one that many asked for.
the Resistance one was the only one that had increased rewards, right? Are any GCs currently running or scheduled?
The resistance one is the most recent - and hopefully more indicative of the structure moving forward.
That said, changing them with no explanation is NOT communication.
In game name: Lucas Gregory FORMER PLAYER - - - -"Whale blah grump poooop." - Ouchie
In game guild: TNR Uprising I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
*This space left intentionally blank*
A game i used to play the devs gave up on their forums all together. Everything was done via twitch or some other streaming platform and they ignored their forums all together. So not surprising.
What they did this time around is not the first time they have done this. They are not ignoring the Forums by any means.
Kyno i like you but that's absolutely not true. They absolutely ignore the forums and have completely changed up and can't even follow their own cadence.
lack of the specific communication you want /= zero communication
You can defend cg all you want but you and i both know cgs communication strategy is subpar at best. And anything contrary to that point you lose credibility.
Either you secretly work for cg and are hiding behind a member account with your massive points or you have incredibly low standards for a studio that has made billions of dollars on a mobile game.
They made several changes to GC based on feedback from the community. That's communication. As I said, it's not the communication you may have wanted, but it's wrong to claim that it isn't communication.
You can get mad about things all you want and accuse me of all sorts of stuff without any basis, but it doesn't make me wrong. Especially since I made no judgement about the quality of communication.
Did you just say making changes to gc and then relaunching them with zero explanation on their own forums whatsoever is communication?
Did you read what I wrote?
They asked for GC feedback.
We gave them feedback.
They made positive changes for us based on that feedback.
I'm sorry you don't like that it's communication, but it is.
I’ll bite.
How do you know that the changes were based on our feedback?
Because they reflect most of the complaints leveled against the GCs? You honestly think it's just a lucky coincidence?
Look, I'm all for holding CG's feet to the fire when they mess up - but they are getting GCs right. Slowly, sure, but it's movement in the right direction - one that many asked for.
the Resistance one was the only one that had increased rewards, right? Are any GCs currently running or scheduled?
The resistance one is the most recent - and hopefully more indicative of the structure moving forward.
That said, changing them with no explanation is NOT communication.
Unless they push another update, the rewards have been reduced to 0. The daily availability was one of the selling points...
A game i used to play the devs gave up on their forums all together. Everything was done via twitch or some other streaming platform and they ignored their forums all together. So not surprising.
What they did this time around is not the first time they have done this. They are not ignoring the Forums by any means.
Kyno i like you but that's absolutely not true. They absolutely ignore the forums and have completely changed up and can't even follow their own cadence.
lack of the specific communication you want /= zero communication
You can defend cg all you want but you and i both know cgs communication strategy is subpar at best. And anything contrary to that point you lose credibility.
Either you secretly work for cg and are hiding behind a member account with your massive points or you have incredibly low standards for a studio that has made billions of dollars on a mobile game.
They made several changes to GC based on feedback from the community. That's communication. As I said, it's not the communication you may have wanted, but it's wrong to claim that it isn't communication.
You can get mad about things all you want and accuse me of all sorts of stuff without any basis, but it doesn't make me wrong. Especially since I made no judgement about the quality of communication.
Did you just say making changes to gc and then relaunching them with zero explanation on their own forums whatsoever is communication?
Did you read what I wrote?
They asked for GC feedback.
We gave them feedback.
They made positive changes for us based on that feedback.
I'm sorry you don't like that it's communication, but it is.
I’ll bite.
How do you know that the changes were based on our feedback?
Because they reflect most of the complaints leveled against the GCs? You honestly think it's just a lucky coincidence?
Look, I'm all for holding CG's feet to the fire when they mess up - but they are getting GCs right. Slowly, sure, but it's movement in the right direction - one that many asked for.
Is the beta test period over?
They told us that they were going to run this test period where they were going to adjust a number of different variables. We saw significant changes in the length of the events, a change in the requirements for feats, a change in the reward structure.
I’m not personally willing to say “well, I guess they listened to us” just yet. Especially not based on one single event.
The next iteration could very well include a totally different reward structure yet again.
Unless of course they came out and told us that they had made some changes based on our feedback and we can expect to see the game mode play out in a similar manner going forward.
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Couldnt they have posted a "check out this podcast" post?
Takes 5 minutes max. Give me 500 crystal crumb, ill make the post for you on the cheap.
2 is debatable but you forgot 3
3. Much better reward structure.
@InyakSolomon88
https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/235642/extra-life-livestream-10am-this-saturday#latest
The exsistance of the Pod cast was posted to the Forum.
as I have linked in previous posts, we ahve had more communication from them than just what you are stating and not all of it is self promotion.
edit: ok sorry i was wrong, i thought they had a link there too also discussing this, but I appear to be wrong.
I will do it for 300.
Removing relic requirements = much better all on its own.
But the rewards for the tiers that did not require relics got better though.
Or does it?
https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/222459/what-kinds-of-data-do-guild-officers-want/p1
https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/230586/ahnalds-account-merge/p105
This was acknowledged. Yes they have not acted on it yet, but they asked and acknowledged it. not meeting arbitrary timelines =/= ignoring the forums.
What about the other one?
In the last 2.5 months Crumb has made 7 posts outside the "Dev Announcements and News" and "Game Updates" section to actively communicate with the forum and directly answer questions to clear things up like the Wookie tag being a hidden thing or GL's not going to be a requirement for the new GL's. The last post of this kind was 21 days ago. 7 posts in 2.5 months...that's about 0,0933 posts per day or 0,428% of TVF's activity (21,8ppd). We would need 234 Crumbs to compensate 1 TVF.
I am and continue to be woefully underappreciated and under-compensated.
I heard there is a group you can join to discuss this.
Can I get an invite?
"I'm mad about xyz!"
um, none of that is true
"It IS! I'm mad"
you're still wrong, here's the proof. again
"ARGGG"
There are plenty of people that read and do not post. I'd put money that CG are still reading majority of the posts here whether they respond or not.
At what point does talking to someone become ignoring them?
Also we are talking about ignoring the Forums, not the community.
I’ll bite.
How do you know that the changes were based on our feedback?
1st quarter of the year we are talking abt ART AND GL Rey and Kylo. With almost near to nothing to do but gearing toons. Not forgetting that we didn't need to relic all toons to becoming all toons reliced.
Their answer is releasing new toons. Mando toons. And finally after 6 months the announcement of Galatic challenges.
When Galatic challenges came out it flopped cause of the relic gear gate and the rewards. They fixed the rewards and removed the gear gate, but made the event harder.
JKL came out with a sound file problem
New Toons like Mom and 3PO. Having double drops for JKL event.
Now with the hype of 2 new GLs, CG went to a pod cast for an unofficial announcement. Something like a soft launch / teaser with nothing written.
Quality of life has relatively remained the same. The journey guild is a welcome changed.
Bugs are still in the game.
Cheating is a known issue with no communication of addressing it.
New packs but spending $20-50 doesn't get u a full piece of gear.
Promise of easing gear crunch but the gear grind just got tougher because all toons need to be reliced.
And the communication issue which they promised to improve since I don't know when...
So is this communication 🤔 very hard for me to say yes
Because they reflect most of the complaints leveled against the GCs? You honestly think it's just a lucky coincidence?
Look, I'm all for holding CG's feet to the fire when they mess up - but they are getting GCs right. Slowly, sure, but it's movement in the right direction - one that many asked for.
In game guild: TNR Uprising
I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
*This space left intentionally blank*
the Resistance one was the only one that had increased rewards, right? Are any GCs currently running or scheduled?
The resistance one is the most recent - and hopefully more indicative of the structure moving forward.
That said, changing them with no explanation is NOT communication.
In game guild: TNR Uprising
I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
*This space left intentionally blank*
Unless they push another update, the rewards have been reduced to 0. The daily availability was one of the selling points...
Is the beta test period over?
They told us that they were going to run this test period where they were going to adjust a number of different variables. We saw significant changes in the length of the events, a change in the requirements for feats, a change in the reward structure.
I’m not personally willing to say “well, I guess they listened to us” just yet. Especially not based on one single event.
The next iteration could very well include a totally different reward structure yet again.
Unless of course they came out and told us that they had made some changes based on our feedback and we can expect to see the game mode play out in a similar manner going forward.
Their general venue of communication is incommunicado. Anytime they break that is groundbreaking novelty.
It's almost as if Kyno is actually CG and he just got so caught up in his Kyno persona he decided to give up on his CG identity.