The Road Ahead are no longer tied to quarters....they are tied to whenever they have something to announce. The problem was that the Road Ahead didn't drive up hype. The conquest post SHOULD have been the road ahead.
Communication isn't that hard really, other games do it with ease....this studio just seems to have too much red tape and poor management on top of that. We shouldn't be praising Crumb for coming on once in blue moon to answer someone's question... it should almost be a daily occurrence....
It still says approximately once per quarter. Indicating the same or at least a similar timeline of expectations. The fact that they released the road ahead as it was means to me that it was intended to get people excited and speculating about a new game mode. Which is something we have been asking for and yet after it's announcement it was met with frustrated and negative speculation rather than excitement. Likely at the time of the road aheads conception the details we have now were not fully fleshed out so they gave us something to look forward to in the meantime.
In regards to communication, if I were in their position I would feel very overwhelmed by the communication aspect of my job. Let's be honest this community is awesome but it's also shallow we say... Passionate. (Passionate meaning volatile) Every word in every post is dissected and taken and interpreted (at times incorrectly) like holy scrolls from heaven. So obviously I can't speak for them but I can empathize with the situation they are in. Again making great strides and improvement while navigating with poise and candor the often aforementioned passion from the community.
I think daily is a bit much, but I wouldnt mind seeing them more.
Doja is a man with a plan and once he gets more elements rolling that may give him more time to get out here to shoot the bantha poo.
"almost daily" so that could mean twice a week...which reasonable. The amount of time things on the communication side take to get "approved" is the problem, even Doja has pointed to it...which is why I think this game is managed very poorly.
The game and the communication are 2 different things. With as many companies involved as there are I can see comms may be more heavily managed by people "outside" of the direct lines of communication.
If you mean weekly, its probably better to say that, almost daily means of he posted 2 times in a week someone will be complaining because 3 days between isnt close enough to daily. Either way they would never actually commit to something like that, evening that was a goal they are trying to keep.
I think daily is a bit much, but I wouldnt mind seeing them more.
Doja is a man with a plan and once he gets more elements rolling that may give him more time to get out here to shoot the bantha poo.
"almost daily" so that could mean twice a week...which reasonable. The amount of time things on the communication side take to get "approved" is the problem, even Doja has pointed to it...which is why I think this game is managed very poorly.
The game and the communication are 2 different things. With as many companies involved as there are I can see comms may be more heavily managed by people "outside" of the direct lines of communication.
If you mean weekly, its probably better to say that, almost daily means of he posted 2 times in a week someone will be complaining because 3 days between isnt close enough to daily. Either way they would never actually commit to something like that, evening that was a goal they are trying to keep.
I see your point...even when they do commit to something, they have a habit of not following through. Doja has been and continues to be a breath of fresh air on here, so there is hope...while Crumb seems to be a lost cause who really hasn't managed the community as his job description would suggest.
Or when they try to keep a commitment, people tend to complain that each update isn't "update-y" enough.....
There are a few misconceptions about the specificity of their job and title. Not going into detail, but there job is not only to talk to the player base, and I think many would be surprised at everything they do in the background.
I think daily is a bit much, but I wouldnt mind seeing them more.
Doja is a man with a plan and once he gets more elements rolling that may give him more time to get out here to shoot the bantha poo.
"almost daily" so that could mean twice a week...which reasonable. The amount of time things on the communication side take to get "approved" is the problem, even Doja has pointed to it...which is why I think this game is managed very poorly.
The game and the communication are 2 different things. With as many companies involved as there are I can see comms may be more heavily managed by people "outside" of the direct lines of communication.
If you mean weekly, its probably better to say that, almost daily means of he posted 2 times in a week someone will be complaining because 3 days between isnt close enough to daily. Either way they would never actually commit to something like that, evening that was a goal they are trying to keep.
I see your point...even when they do commit to something, they have a habit of not following through. Doja has been and continues to be a breath of fresh air on here, so there is hope...while Crumb seems to be a lost cause who really hasn't managed the community as his job description would suggest.
I think your confusing his job title with his job description. It’s pretty obvious that Doja is our main go to for direct communication nowadays so I’m not sure why you expect Crump to pop in on a weekly basis as well when we have a designated person for the job. Crumb obviously has his own stuff that he’s got to do in relation to his job that we don’t know about which is why they brought in Doja in the first place. Just because he’s not active in the forums doesn’t mean he’s actively not doing anything
I think people are being too hard on CG for managing the community aspects.
All CG can do is their best at creating content for the various stages of the game that players have reached. I think they do a decent job at balancing end-game and scaling content for all involved. There have been missteps and nothing is ever perfect, but managing the response of the community to missteps (heck even just decent content that isn’t a misstep) is virtually impossible.
No one person can control the reaction of another person let alone the reactions of thousands of players. Could they be better at community management? Yes. Could they be worse? Yes.
I think people are being too hard on CG for managing the community aspects.
All CG can do is their best at creating content for the various stages of the game that players have reached. I think they do a decent job at balancing end-game and scaling content for all involved. There have been missteps and nothing is ever perfect, but managing the response of the community to missteps (heck even just decent content that isn’t a misstep) is virtually impossible.
No one person can control the reaction of another person let alone the reactions of thousands of players. Could they be better at community management? Yes. Could they be worse? Yes.
I completely agree. No one company is perfect at anything. The best we can do is to give feedback when they ask and not be too hard on them. We gotta realize how much work they are already doing for us and stop being too tough on them. At least we know that they are trying to fix the "issues" that people are having.
“But you know what I always say: Speak softly and drive a big tank.”
Hypothetical situation - Let's say that company X is a subsidiary and owned by company Y which is also partners with company Z.
Company X is responsible for the development and maintenance of product A while company Y manages marketing, finances, legal, etc.
Company X is provided with a salary and employees to support product A. Company X must use the resources given to provide for all the needed services associated with product A.
The product does so well financially that company Y leaves company X as it is even though they work very hard and are struggling to keep up with consumer reports, questions, concerns, etc.
So company X does the best they can with the resources they have while having to sort through the all associated red tape for being a company in association with Y and Z.
Again just hypothetical but that illustrates how much more complicated things can be than we may think.
If we respond respectfully, constructively, and concisely without being demanding or obtuse then that will be the most helpful thing we as players can do for the game.
Hypothetical situation - Let's say that company X is a subsidiary and owned by company Y which is also partners with company Z.
Company X is responsible for the development and maintenance of product A while company Y manages marketing, finances, legal, etc.
Company X is provided with a salary and employees to support product A. Company X must use the resources given to provide for all the needed services associated with product A.
The product does so well financially that company Y leaves company X as it is even though they work very hard and are struggling to keep up with consumer reports, questions, concerns, etc.
So company X does the best they can with the resources they have while having to sort through the all associated red tape for being a company in association with Y and Z.
Again just hypothetical but that illustrates how much more complicated things can be than we may think.
If we respond respectfully, constructively, and concisely without being demanding or obtuse then that will be the most helpful thing we as players can do for the game.
TL;DR- The House of Mouse and EA are masters of red tape and constrain CG on what they can and can't say bc, let's be honest, that's just how both of them act.
I really think this has gone more than far enough down this path.
Leta get back on topic please.
i think we need a conquest megathread since everything about the Road Ahead has been delivered
honestly with something that has this many facets and distinct areas of discussion/questions. I was trying to let it float out there and maybe make a few merges later.
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Doja is a man with a plan and once he gets more elements rolling that may give him more time to get out here to shoot the bantha poo.
It still says approximately once per quarter. Indicating the same or at least a similar timeline of expectations. The fact that they released the road ahead as it was means to me that it was intended to get people excited and speculating about a new game mode. Which is something we have been asking for and yet after it's announcement it was met with frustrated and negative speculation rather than excitement. Likely at the time of the road aheads conception the details we have now were not fully fleshed out so they gave us something to look forward to in the meantime.
In regards to communication, if I were in their position I would feel very overwhelmed by the communication aspect of my job. Let's be honest this community is awesome but it's also shallow we say... Passionate. (Passionate meaning volatile) Every word in every post is dissected and taken and interpreted (at times incorrectly) like holy scrolls from heaven. So obviously I can't speak for them but I can empathize with the situation they are in. Again making great strides and improvement while navigating with poise and candor the often aforementioned passion from the community.
Lol are you new here?
CG: Almost daily!
CG: (*posts twice a week*)
FORUMS: wHeRe ArE oUr DaILy PoStS
The game and the communication are 2 different things. With as many companies involved as there are I can see comms may be more heavily managed by people "outside" of the direct lines of communication.
If you mean weekly, its probably better to say that, almost daily means of he posted 2 times in a week someone will be complaining because 3 days between isnt close enough to daily. Either way they would never actually commit to something like that, evening that was a goal they are trying to keep.
Or when they try to keep a commitment, people tend to complain that each update isn't "update-y" enough.....
There are a few misconceptions about the specificity of their job and title. Not going into detail, but there job is not only to talk to the player base, and I think many would be surprised at everything they do in the background.
I think your confusing his job title with his job description. It’s pretty obvious that Doja is our main go to for direct communication nowadays so I’m not sure why you expect Crump to pop in on a weekly basis as well when we have a designated person for the job. Crumb obviously has his own stuff that he’s got to do in relation to his job that we don’t know about which is why they brought in Doja in the first place. Just because he’s not active in the forums doesn’t mean he’s actively not doing anything
All CG can do is their best at creating content for the various stages of the game that players have reached. I think they do a decent job at balancing end-game and scaling content for all involved. There have been missteps and nothing is ever perfect, but managing the response of the community to missteps (heck even just decent content that isn’t a misstep) is virtually impossible.
No one person can control the reaction of another person let alone the reactions of thousands of players. Could they be better at community management? Yes. Could they be worse? Yes.
I completely agree. No one company is perfect at anything. The best we can do is to give feedback when they ask and not be too hard on them. We gotta realize how much work they are already doing for us and stop being too tough on them. At least we know that they are trying to fix the "issues" that people are having.
crumb is always posting with his burner accounts
Company X is responsible for the development and maintenance of product A while company Y manages marketing, finances, legal, etc.
Company X is provided with a salary and employees to support product A. Company X must use the resources given to provide for all the needed services associated with product A.
The product does so well financially that company Y leaves company X as it is even though they work very hard and are struggling to keep up with consumer reports, questions, concerns, etc.
So company X does the best they can with the resources they have while having to sort through the all associated red tape for being a company in association with Y and Z.
Again just hypothetical but that illustrates how much more complicated things can be than we may think.
If we respond respectfully, constructively, and concisely without being demanding or obtuse then that will be the most helpful thing we as players can do for the game.
TL;DR- The House of Mouse and EA are masters of red tape and constrain CG on what they can and can't say bc, let's be honest, that's just how both of them act.
Leta get back on topic please.
i think we need a conquest megathread since everything about the Road Ahead has been delivered
honestly with something that has this many facets and distinct areas of discussion/questions. I was trying to let it float out there and maybe make a few merges later.