Kurdva wrote: »
10 ultimate Galactic legends vs 36? Ya they just set em in front and we are blocked. Your matchmaking is broken like a glass under a sledgehammer.
nottenst wrote: »
If in GAC the matchmaking algorithm is happy putting a roster with 2 GLs against one without any GLs then it is no surprise to see TW matches that have lopsided GL numbers.
Upgrayedd_VIII wrote: »
We are regularly getting matched against guilds much stronger than us. This has been an ongoing issue since they "fixed" the Territory War match-making a year or so back. This is not fun when we rarely have a chance at winning. My guild is VIII. Our current opponent is the guild on the right in the screenshot. We've been CG'd
Upgrayedd_VIII wrote: »
@CG_SBCrumb: This is broken. Over 80 Million GP difference and they have 96 more Ultimate abilities than our guild. NO FUN!!!!
Date of TW: March 9th, 2021
Your Guild’s GP: VIII = 251.1M with 16 Ultimates
Opposing team’s GP: ΞTΞRNΔL ALLiΔNCE = 332.7M with 112 Ultimates
# of my guild members who joined: 47
# of opposing guild members who joined: Unknown, 22 Squads per Territory
Prosser wrote: »
[you will never convince me that is still a fair match. We placed 19 per zone, so they likely had 38 join. If you divide or gp by 50, our average gp is 5,240,000, but our gp divided by their 38 that joined is 6,894,736! How is that close?!?!
I do wonder though, do the devs even look at this thread anymore? Or did they give up on fixing TW matchmaking?
thatguy181 wrote: »
I'm just glad the rewards are close enough to not be too big of an issue, but CG.... man, you guys need to fire whomever came up with your matchmaking code, or you need to go back and add some checks to it.
There are countless mismatches every single TW... It's frankly unbelievable imo that you "don’t see any egregious issues in the data".
There are countless ways to improve the system. Some may come with their own downfalls, but it's surprising you all haven't seemed to try anything yet...
For matchmaking purposes, consider the ENTIRE guild's strength, not just those that signed up. Immediately ends sandbagging (to an extent, my guild was matched up 50 on 50 with another guild that by GP look similar, but they had 5 accounts that were all sub 1M GP, so if people really want to sandbag, there's obviously still ways to do so... not sure what you could do here admittedly). Yes, this poses the risk of "harming" a guild that didn't have full or near full participation, but wouldn't you rather make the game ENCOURAGE full player participation?
GL counter... I'm not even talking ultimate abilities here, strict GL counter alone. +/- 10% of the guild in the matchup with the lowest amount of GL.
Zeta counter. Again, +/- 10% of the smaller of the two guilds in the matchup. We were recently in a matchup against a guild that had over 500 more zeta abilities.
Relic counter. That same guild had over 1000 more relic level characters than my guild had. Like previously suggested, +/- 10% of the smaller guild's count.
This may be getting a little too extreme, but maybe even start to consider the guild's win ratio when matchmaking.
CG_SBCrumb wrote: »
We are aware that some Guilds are battling in Territory Wars against higher GP Guilds with a deeper roster and can feel impossible to beat. Currently, we don’t see any egregious issues in the data but, after looking at the posts on the forums, it’s clear that we need to investigate further. Territory War Matchmaker is something we have been monitoring closely for a while but we still need to gather more info about the current situation.
I am combing through the forum for past GP mismatches for my report but I could use your help. Please post here with the following info if you have experienced a large mismatch in Guild GP during Territory War in the last couple months (last change to TW matchmaker was in March 2018):
Date of TW:
Your Guild’s GP
Opposing team’s GP:
# of my guild members who joined:
# of opposing guild members who joined:
Attach any screenshots of the above info if you have them.
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