True, I mean, I can share my experiences in this particular GAC, but that's just 1 data point. I didn't know if there was a site or something that might track this, or even the devs. Failing that, soliciting more data points, hehe.
I never see auto deployed defense in 5v5 any more. I regularly see several every season of 3v3. I think that’s pretty telling. The same could be said for people who just set defense and don’t bother to attack.
Granted, I hated 3v3 for quite a while because of the inability to test out teams. But now it’s grown on me and I prefer it to 5v5. 5v5 is a little stale at this point.
never in my life have I had as many autosets as last gac (5v5). I'm talking 2, maybe 3 opponents iirc set D and/or attacked (I missed the first round but that's...a lot of not-caring. Fine by me)
I never see auto deployed defense in 5v5 any more. I regularly see several every season of 3v3. I think that’s pretty telling. The same could be said for people who just set defense and don’t bother to attack.
It's not necessarily telling because of sample size.
5v5 I see tons of autoset defenses. Especially in later rounds when they can't get kyber so they just give up. 3v3 I don't see nearly as many auto defenses.
I never see auto deployed defense in 5v5 any more. I regularly see several every season of 3v3. I think that’s pretty telling. The same could be said for people who just set defense and don’t bother to attack.
It's not necessarily telling because of sample size.
This is why I was hoping some site out there that tracked GAC history might track those "unset" instances and provide that participation number somehow. It's trivia, ultimately, but interesting data all the same.
I never see auto deployed defense in 5v5 any more. I regularly see several every season of 3v3. I think that’s pretty telling. The same could be said for people who just set defense and don’t bother to attack.
They had the auto deploy question come up in one of the Metaverse trivia videos and there were definitely more autosets than I would have thought. I think it was somewhere in the low 30% of people that join 5v5 just autoset and the number was only slightly higher in 3v3. They didn't give any numbers for actual join rate between the two so there could be a massive discrepancy between those two numbers, but the number that autoset defense is not that different between 5s and 3s.
I never see auto deployed defense in 5v5 any more. I regularly see several every season of 3v3. I think that’s pretty telling. The same could be said for people who just set defense and don’t bother to attack.
It’s the opposite for me. I’ve had more auto defenses and non-participation in 5v5 over the last 5 months than in 3v3.
I never see auto deployed defense in 5v5 any more. I regularly see several every season of 3v3. I think that’s pretty telling. The same could be said for people who just set defense and don’t bother to attack.
They had the auto deploy question come up in one of the Metaverse trivia videos and there were definitely more autosets than I would have thought. I think it was somewhere in the low 30% of people that join 5v5 just autoset and the number was only slightly higher in 3v3. They didn't give any numbers for actual join rate between the two so there could be a massive discrepancy between those two numbers, but the number that autoset defense is not that different between 5s and 3s.
Define autoset--because I set my first defense, the just leave it for the rest of the round. Is that being counted? Or when they say autoset are they exclusively talking about 30% of players don't set any defense and let the algorithm do it?
I never see auto deployed defense in 5v5 any more. I regularly see several every season of 3v3. I think that’s pretty telling. The same could be said for people who just set defense and don’t bother to attack.
They had the auto deploy question come up in one of the Metaverse trivia videos and there were definitely more autosets than I would have thought. I think it was somewhere in the low 30% of people that join 5v5 just autoset and the number was only slightly higher in 3v3. They didn't give any numbers for actual join rate between the two so there could be a massive discrepancy between those two numbers, but the number that autoset defense is not that different between 5s and 3s.
Define autoset--because I set my first defense, the just leave it for the rest of the round. Is that being counted? Or when they say autoset are they exclusively talking about 30% of players don't set any defense and let the algorithm do it?
Just curious.
Sorry, should have been more specific.
Yes, the question specifically stated "What is the percentage of people who opt in to 5v5 GAC, but don't place their first defense?" and the number was 33.9%. The number for 3v3 was only a couple percentage points higher at 37.5%.
All, or almost all evidence on this is anecdotal, but fwiw, I haven’t seen any autoset defenses in the last few seasons of GAC, including this one. Now, a few times in there my opp hasn’t attacked me, but it doesn’t jump out to me that’s it happening more or less often in 5v5 vs 3v3. Another anecdote for the pile...
5v5 I see tons of autoset defenses. Especially in later rounds when they can't get kyber so they just give up. 3v3 I don't see nearly as many auto defenses.
Opposite of my experience. I rarely see auto set in 5v5-even at the end. I see several in 3v3. Had one already in the 2nd round of this one. But again, small sample sizes. Like TVF said. CG has the data - but they aren't telling
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5v5 I see tons of autoset defenses. Especially in later rounds when they can't get kyber so they just give up. 3v3 I don't see nearly as many auto defenses.
Opposite of my experience. I rarely see auto set in 5v5-even at the end. I see several in 3v3. Had one already in the 2nd round of this one. But again, small sample sizes. Like TVF said. CG has the data - but they aren't telling
5v5 I see tons of autoset defenses. Especially in later rounds when they can't get kyber so they just give up. 3v3 I don't see nearly as many auto defenses.
Opposite of my experience. I rarely see auto set in 5v5-even at the end. I see several in 3v3. Had one already in the 2nd round of this one. But again, small sample sizes. Like TVF said. CG has the data - but they aren't telling
5v5 I see tons of autoset defenses. Especially in later rounds when they can't get kyber so they just give up. 3v3 I don't see nearly as many auto defenses.
Opposite of my experience. I rarely see auto set in 5v5-even at the end. I see several in 3v3. Had one already in the 2nd round of this one. But again, small sample sizes. Like TVF said. CG has the data - but they aren't telling
They did tell us.
They told us participation rates?
I think it was somewhere in those Operation Metaverse trivia interviews that almost no one cared about or even knows exists, but I'm not looking through those just to find it. I just vaguely remember looking through the questions once and seeing a question about the % difference in players who place defenses in 5v5 vs 3v3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox3WXGPV2SI. 22 minute mark give or take. 33.9% join and autoset defense in 5v5 GAC. 37% in 3v3. According to Doja in Operation Metaverse Q&A a while back
No, they did not give participation numbers and I don't think they will. They only provided the percentage that autoset the first round and the difference between 5v5 and 3v3 for that percentage.
No, they did not give participation numbers and I don't think they will. They only provided the percentage that autoset the first round and the difference between 5v5 and 3v3 for that percentage.
Those %s represent the number of players that join and do not participate.
But yes sorry that is not the numbers on people who participate in GACs, as in they do not tell us how many players join or dont.
Personally, I enjoy 3v3 more, because it gives you chance to break the routine and think outside of the box. Try new squads, find new metas, instead of doing the same old like a separatist droid lol. But, no idea about the participation rate you are talking.
Also, I am wondering how do you know a defence is autoset or not?
Personally, I enjoy 3v3 more, because it gives you chance to break the routine and think outside of the box. Try new squads, find new metas, instead of doing the same old like a separatist droid lol. But, no idea about the participation rate you are talking.
Also, I am wondering how do you know a defence is autoset or not?
When people say "autoset," they are referring to specifically first-round auto-sets (which carry over through rounds). So not only is it all their strongest characters on defense, but it is in power order, which results in weird combinations and wildly split up factions. It can even result non-leaders being put in the leader spot with while the two under them have leader abilities.
No, they did not give participation numbers and I don't think they will. They only provided the percentage that autoset the first round and the difference between 5v5 and 3v3 for that percentage.
Those %s represent the number of players that join and do not participate.
But yes sorry that is not the numbers on people who participate in GACs, as in they do not tell us how many players join or dont.
1/3 of players joining something and not playing it seems pretty high. I wonder how high the percentage needs to go before they introduce some real changes (4v4, Hiding score until the end, different zones, ships upfront, etc) The new changes in the amount of team was a nice touch, but I don't think it shook it up enough, although it is too early to tell just yet.
I would think the % not joining would be the point of concern, not the no play %. If they have a high enough join rate, then they may not push changes that may run off players who are joining already.
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Thanks for response, am I to assume you think the rate of participation is the same?
True, I mean, I can share my experiences in this particular GAC, but that's just 1 data point. I didn't know if there was a site or something that might track this, or even the devs. Failing that, soliciting more data points, hehe.
If I had to guess it's lower for 3v3 because of people that say the game wasn't designed for it, but still just a guess.
It's not necessarily telling because of sample size.
This is why I was hoping some site out there that tracked GAC history might track those "unset" instances and provide that participation number somehow. It's trivia, ultimately, but interesting data all the same.
They had the auto deploy question come up in one of the Metaverse trivia videos and there were definitely more autosets than I would have thought. I think it was somewhere in the low 30% of people that join 5v5 just autoset and the number was only slightly higher in 3v3. They didn't give any numbers for actual join rate between the two so there could be a massive discrepancy between those two numbers, but the number that autoset defense is not that different between 5s and 3s.
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It’s the opposite for me. I’ve had more auto defenses and non-participation in 5v5 over the last 5 months than in 3v3.
Define autoset--because I set my first defense, the just leave it for the rest of the round. Is that being counted? Or when they say autoset are they exclusively talking about 30% of players don't set any defense and let the algorithm do it?
Just curious.
Sorry, should have been more specific.
Yes, the question specifically stated "What is the percentage of people who opt in to 5v5 GAC, but don't place their first defense?" and the number was 33.9%. The number for 3v3 was only a couple percentage points higher at 37.5%.
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As to who sets proper defences and tries is a different matter. For me, my experience so far is both opponents and myself are fully participating.
One of my opponents messaged me that our battle was fun. He won, but I agreed. It was fun.
I enjoy 3v3. Would be interested in 4v4 or even a GAC where each zone had defences to be set that required different squad sizes.
Opposite of my experience. I rarely see auto set in 5v5-even at the end. I see several in 3v3. Had one already in the 2nd round of this one. But again, small sample sizes. Like TVF said. CG has the data - but they aren't telling
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They did tell us.
They told us participation rates?
I think it was somewhere in those Operation Metaverse trivia interviews that almost no one cared about or even knows exists, but I'm not looking through those just to find it. I just vaguely remember looking through the questions once and seeing a question about the % difference in players who place defenses in 5v5 vs 3v3
DISCLAIMER: Post is subject to change.
Those %s represent the number of players that join and do not participate.
But yes sorry that is not the numbers on people who participate in GACs, as in they do not tell us how many players join or dont.
Also, I am wondering how do you know a defence is autoset or not?
When people say "autoset," they are referring to specifically first-round auto-sets (which carry over through rounds). So not only is it all their strongest characters on defense, but it is in power order, which results in weird combinations and wildly split up factions. It can even result non-leaders being put in the leader spot with while the two under them have leader abilities.
I would think the % not joining would be the point of concern, not the no play %. If they have a high enough join rate, then they may not push changes that may run off players who are joining already.