Conquest 4 Feedback [MERGE]

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  • RezaTorin wrote: »
    Is it just me or is Entrenched completely busted after the new update?

    Same, it's not activating for me, and my brother on his account
  • Kyno wrote: »
    I am following my same strategy of a feat focused team comp for both the sector and the event feats. I am a little surprised at how much I feel like I am noticing not having certain discs, which is harder, but nothing that is going to stop me in my tracks at this point finishing up sector 2.

    Where are you at?

    Conquest at normal is stupid. Its G13s Multi Zetas speed at least 300 as my vader is a starting speed of 283 before bonuses, i have put in an official complaint as this obv just panders to the whales, what is normal here? What about new players? do they get something easier? Is the game algorithm wrong?
  • Spot on. A currency for the game.
    personally, I find difficulty fun, but that is just me.

    Of course I find it fun to overcome difficult challenges. You're not reading me, or not understanding me.

    If you put in specific difficulty factor, in this case speed, and then you put in something to purchase for the same currency the event provides as a reward that boosts your own team's speed to cancel out the advantage of the other side, then this is just a "tax": Everyone can compete fairly on speed so long as the rewards are reduced.

    If this is the primary thing that makes it difficult, then there's no strategy to it at all: it's only a tax, and that's it. Some people like me can get around it. I can use JKLS lead + JML. With his 500ish speed JML goes first & uses Heroes arise, and then before the enemy gets a turn their speed is reduced to 110ish. Which means the tax I pay will be less than what others will pay, but it's not like it's meaningful in any event.

    If you removed the consumable and took the enemy speed down to something reasonable, you would have the exact same level of difficulty as if you never boosted enemy speed or offered a speed consumable in the first place.

    I like difficulty. But because speed consumables exist, CG still needs to make it difficult when speeds are roughly equal. If CG is relying on speed to make things difficult, then they shouldn't offer the consumable. If they're not relying on speeds to make it difficult, then ... it's pointless.

    At least Speed data disks offered a meaningful strategic choice: since slots are limited, you can gain a speed advantage only by forgoing some other advantage you might like to have in the same battle. If they were worried that Quicken was too easy to come by, the interesting choice would be to offer a +25% speed disk that uses up 4 slots. That equates to a lot of other bonuses you would have to give up and, again, makes for interesting strategic choices as a result.

    "Will I bang my head against a wall of super fast toons that one shot characters or will I spend X currency to play the battle on easy mode?" isn't an interesting strategic choice. It's boring, it's lazy, and, wait for it, ...

    ...it's no fun.

    Insinuating that I don't like difficulty by avoiding the actual issues present in their game design choices isn't helping you defend your position at all. This is a bad game design choice.

  • Perfect argument. Just because some whale can do it, lesser.....so called lesser, players cant do it. changed the teams? 4 JKR teams in a row is changed up? At normal you shouldnt even need normals but to not even meet sector 2/3 is only designed to put the player in a depressed state as to spend more to achieve.
    They literally just changed up the teams you’d face, I dunno what you’re complainjng about it being stale. The fact that your old strategy doesn’t works anymore points to the fact they changed some things up, just not in the way that you in particular like.

    Are some of the modifiers annoying, like the damage reflection on GR teams? Yes. Can you work around it? Absolutely, provided you change up strategies a bit. Also with the teams you listed they’re fairly easy to beat so I don’t know what you’re using.... It’s fine if you don’t want to use your GLs but don’t complain when you have some difficulty with Conquest. Not using your own teams is your choice.

    the only teams they changed were teh boss nodes. They left every other team comp the same so I don't know what you're even talking about. Also they "changed them up" with teams you ALREADY FACE in conquest :joy: only teams they "added" were Rey and SLK. For 2 nodes.

    As for the second part of your comment. Yes, you're 100% right. Silly me using Traya vs geonosians. or NS vs geonosians. Or, most hilariously, DRevs vs Geonosians. We all know those are terrible counters that never work. Such crap teams. r7 Malak gets oneshot by an r5 geo spy but hey, Malak is an awful toon anyway. Really my own fault for even bothering to use him. What a waste of relic mats he was.

    I clearly have been beating them. You completely missed my point in your bid to tell me I'm incompetent. That modifier is completely and obscenely overused at this point and Conquest is becoming the new Galactic Challenge at an accelerated rate. Conquest was previously fun and used the full roster. Now it doesn't. Now it can't. CG's entire strategy in the game across every mode now is just to make it harder and give teh enemies obscene stats that we can't match or beat. With modifiers in play you'd think they wouldn't just do obscene power boosts, but that's exactly what they're relying on now for difficulty. It's lazy and removes all strategy from Conquest as a mode.

  • So yeah... not all data disks are working...great. why are we expected to quality test this stuff; shouldnt this actually be someone's job?
  • GR1303
    22 posts Member
    I know which three feats I need to do for the max crate... I also need those data disks to work. So... guess I'll hang out for a bit.
  • zatho
    130 posts Member
    edited June 17
    Mistakes happen, even if such severe ones should be precluded before pushing the update. However I am really sad that no official dev statement has been published. @CG_Doja_Fett_MINI @CG_SBCrumb_MINI It is almost a day past and you told us nothing, e.g. whether we will get compensation or if there will be a hotfix. Don't know If I should wait and save energy or try my best with immense handycap.
    Since there are not so many days left to complete conquest, time is a valuable resource. If energy is full, you have to waste it. If you do fights without datatisk effects, you may lose stars or whole battles. Makes it harder to earn code cards. And what is most critical, if you wait with fighting until energy has recovered and a hotfix has been pushed (hopefully!), you will have troubles with ceasing stamina of your teams. I planned my feats by fighting bit by bit and letting both, energy and stamina recover.

    Edit: I like your squirrel avatar, Doja
  • TVF
    30983 posts Member
    The dev tracker indicates multiple disc fixes are ready to release, which makes me super happy!

    I do wish they would have said something about it this morning, but I've found dwelling on the past only leads to sadness.
    The CGDF is no more. Now we hate CG because of conquest. Say hi in our Discord! https://discord.gg/AmStGTH
  • zatho
    130 posts Member
    edited June 17
    TVF wrote: »
    I do wish they would have said something about it this morning, but I've found dwelling on the past only leads to sadness.
    But ignoring the past leads to the same mistakes being made again and again. Repeatedly

    Edit: And if there would be a statement, less people would complain, which reduces work for Support Team and forum moderators
  • **** I wish they had made a post about Entrenched not working!!! I spent all my Conquest energy losing fights before realizing what the problem was!!!! All my strategy relies on Entrenched, they give me +275% protection...
  • TVF
    30983 posts Member
    zatho wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    I do wish they would have said something about it this morning, but I've found dwelling on the past only leads to sadness.
    But ignoring the past leads to the same mistakes being made again and again. Repeatedly

    Edit: And if there would be a statement, less people would complain, which reduces work for Support Team and forum moderators

    Forum moderators love their work!
    The CGDF is no more. Now we hate CG because of conquest. Say hi in our Discord! https://discord.gg/AmStGTH
  • Nikoms565
    14242 posts Member
    zatho wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    I do wish they would have said something about it this morning, but I've found dwelling on the past only leads to sadness.
    But ignoring the past leads to the same mistakes being made again and again. Repeatedly

    But releasing content with multiple new bugs doesn't usually happen...



    in other games. :/
    In game name: Lucas Gregory FORMER PLAYER - - - -"Whale blah grump poooop." - Ouchie

    In game guild: TNR Uprising
    I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
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  • I wasted so much energy trying to complete feats without all of my entrenched data disks working. I really wish they would say something more than just that they are working on it. Will conquest be extended? Will it be reset and rub again? Will compensation be offered? There's less than 4 days left now and this is making conquest really unfun.
  • Kyno
    31662 posts Moderator
    CadeVenx wrote: »
    I wasted so much energy trying to complete feats without all of my entrenched data disks working. I really wish they would say something more than just that they are working on it. Will conquest be extended? Will it be reset and rub again? Will compensation be offered? There's less than 4 days left now and this is making conquest really unfun.

    I am told the hot fix will go out today to fix the ones listed in the tracker as ready. They should have a post outlining any details there.
  • LordDirt
    2528 posts Member
    free crystals incoming? :D
    Free at last
  • nottenst
    344 posts Member
    No wonder nodes that should have worked went south quickly. I got so frustrated I refreshed my energy.
  • zatho
    130 posts Member
    LordDirt wrote: »
    free crystals incoming? :D

    3 CWC shards

    When they gave away 330 CWC shards for compensation issues, they should spend him a rework
  • DarthAsajj
    86 posts Member
    edited June 17
    I hope they give us lots of Conquest energy to make up for all the energy we lost because of Entrenched not working...
    As well as an extra day before the end of Conquest, because otherwise we won't have enough stamina to make up for the lost time.
  • zatho wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    I do wish they would have said something about it this morning, but I've found dwelling on the past only leads to sadness.
    But ignoring the past leads to the same mistakes being made again and again. Repeatedly

    Edit: And if there would be a statement, less people would complain, which reduces work for Support Team and forum moderators

    This

  • LordDirt wrote: »
    free crystals incoming? :D

    hahahahahahahaahh
  • I think I just got a hotfix, entrenched appears to be working now
  • TheGamingGeek
    41 posts Member
    edited June 17
    I think deployable cooling systems should be added back. I can see a noticeable difference in my performance now that it is gone. I heavily relied on it and now that it's gone I'm falling behind in my shard in terms of rewards. I realize that it was too good but I think if you nerfed it just a LITTLE it would be fine. I literally can't even get past phase 2 GAS
  • RezaTorin
    28 posts Member
    edited June 17
    So Entrenched is supposed to stack, right? It does seem to work but I’m only seeing 2 stacks when I have 4 disks with Entrenched. Is it supposed to stack, or no? This would be helpful to know for future Conquests in general.

    FWIW, before it was broken I had 4 stacks of Prot Up at beginning of battle, now it shows only 2.
  • RezaTorin wrote: »
    So Entrenched is supposed to stack, right? It does seem to work but I’m only seeing 2 stacks when I have 4 disks with Entrenched. Is it supposed to stack, or no? This would be helpful to know for future Conquests in general.

    FWIW, before it was broken I had 4 stacks of Prot Up at beginning of battle, now it shows only 2.

    Same here, I don't think it's working correctly still.

    Used to get 5 stacks of protection with my current set up (275% total bonus prot from entrenched) and now I'm only getting 3 stacks
  • Lots of bugs with entrenched. At least they fixed the translation bug. But I never found another good one, like the ones I refused because it said it was only for mandalorians.
  • Amoliski
    100 posts Member
    My feedback: This conquest suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked
  • Conquest is already stale. This one has been particularly bad, the data disks have been terrible, the feats are stale and some are down right STUPID! I really don’t care about the game mode anymore. It’s a chore not a fun experience and that is because of the data disks, the cost to move data disks and the stupid feats.
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