R9 (speculation)

Tuareg111 · September 16, 2021 7:17PM

1. When will r9 arrive? 2. What are the requirements? (Aeros, prints etc.). 3. How much do you think will it improve the roosters and the gamemodes?

Kyno · September 16, 2021 7:26PM

These are questions not speculation. 😉

1 - soon.
2 - new stuff, just like r8 was to lower levels. Very likely.

Less likely but hopeful is same as r8, just more.

3 - game modes? Not at all.... roosters, greatly, in a 8-12 months....

TheChild_eats_eggs1 · September 16, 2021 8:10PM

Tuareg111 wrote: »

1. When will r9 arrive? 2. What are the requirements? (Aeros, prints etc.). 3. How much do you think will it improve the roosters and the gamemodes?

Roosters - as soon as u upgrade them, it increases how early they wake up those living in the countryside

WookieWookie · September 16, 2021 9:42PM

Roosters could certainly use some improving. Their wings are dry as sand. I hate sand.

Winterwolves · September 16, 2021 10:19PM

1. Hopefully after the next round of GLs or other release so that there won't be any r9 requirements. Who am I kidding?

2. Hopefully an entirely new material and only that material to relieve the difficulty of getting to r8. Who am I kidding? More of everything to get to r8, and a new signal data that will be in a new cantina node that you can only fight with 5 r8 toons. Not simmable. To encourage "engagement".

3. The only info I've seen about r9 is - "R9 is going to make a big difference for tanks" or words to that effect. My speculation is that it can't be just a mastery and mastery related increase like all other relic levels have been.

If it was another step the same, then tanks would improve just as much as attackers, so no net change and no big difference for tanks.

Maybe it will have a background boost to protection, like happens with gear levels starting at 7? Maybe health? With the removal of most defence bypass, maybe defence? But if there is a targeted boost to tanks, surely there is some big boost for everyone?

scuba · September 16, 2021 10:59PM

Winterwolves wrote: »

1. Hopefully after the next round of GLs or other release so that there won't be any r9 requirements. Who am I kidding?

2. Hopefully an entirely new material and only that material to relieve the difficulty of getting to r8. Who am I kidding? More of everything to get to r8, and a new signal data that will be in a new cantina node that you can only fight with 5 r8 toons. Not simmable. To encourage "engagement".

3. The only info I've seen about r9 is - "R9 is going to make a big difference for tanks" or words to that effect. My speculation is that it can't be just a mastery and mastery related increase like all other relic levels have been.

If it was another step the same, then tanks would improve just as much as attackers, so no net change and no big difference for tanks.

Maybe it will have a background boost to protection, like happens with gear levels starting at 7? Maybe health? With the removal of most defence bypass, maybe defence? But if there is a targeted boost to tanks, surely there is some big boost for everyone?

Don't get your hopes up.

Winterwolves · September 17, 2021 2:51AM

scuba wrote: »

Winterwolves wrote: »

1. Hopefully after the next round of GLs or other release so that there won't be any r9 requirements. Who am I kidding?

2. Hopefully an entirely new material and only that material to relieve the difficulty of getting to r8. Who am I kidding? More of everything to get to r8, and a new signal data that will be in a new cantina node that you can only fight with 5 r8 toons. Not simmable. To encourage "engagement".

3. The only info I've seen about r9 is - "R9 is going to make a big difference for tanks" or words to that effect. My speculation is that it can't be just a mastery and mastery related increase like all other relic levels have been.

If it was another step the same, then tanks would improve just as much as attackers, so no net change and no big difference for tanks.

Maybe it will have a background boost to protection, like happens with gear levels starting at 7? Maybe health? With the removal of most defence bypass, maybe defence? But if there is a targeted boost to tanks, surely there is some big boost for everyone?

Don't get your hopes up.

My hopes are exactly where CG's track record has put them. In a garbage compactor on the detention level.

Winterwolves · September 17, 2021 2:53AM

I just thought I should put some speculation into a thread titled as such.

crzydroid · September 17, 2021 3:09AM

Winterwolves wrote: »

1. Hopefully after the next round of GLs or other release so that there won't be any r9 requirements. Who am I kidding?

2. Hopefully an entirely new material and only that material to relieve the difficulty of getting to r8. Who am I kidding? More of everything to get to r8, and a new signal data that will be in a new cantina node that you can only fight with 5 r8 toons. Not simmable. To encourage "engagement".

3. The only info I've seen about r9 is - "R9 is going to make a big difference for tanks" or words to that effect. My speculation is that it can't be just a mastery and mastery related increase like all other relic levels have been.

If it was another step the same, then tanks would improve just as much as attackers, so no net change and no big difference for tanks.

Maybe it will have a background boost to protection, like happens with gear levels starting at 7? Maybe health? With the removal of most defence bypass, maybe defence? But if there is a targeted boost to tanks, surely there is some big boost for everyone?

Maybe r9 will be the gate for 7 dot mods, and that's where the boosts to defence will actually come from.

LordDirt · September 17, 2021 3:13AM

crzydroid wrote: »

Winterwolves wrote: »

1. Hopefully after the next round of GLs or other release so that there won't be any r9 requirements. Who am I kidding?

2. Hopefully an entirely new material and only that material to relieve the difficulty of getting to r8. Who am I kidding? More of everything to get to r8, and a new signal data that will be in a new cantina node that you can only fight with 5 r8 toons. Not simmable. To encourage "engagement".

3. The only info I've seen about r9 is - "R9 is going to make a big difference for tanks" or words to that effect. My speculation is that it can't be just a mastery and mastery related increase like all other relic levels have been.

If it was another step the same, then tanks would improve just as much as attackers, so no net change and no big difference for tanks.

Maybe it will have a background boost to protection, like happens with gear levels starting at 7? Maybe health? With the removal of most defence bypass, maybe defence? But if there is a targeted boost to tanks, surely there is some big boost for everyone?

Maybe r9 will be the gate for 7 dot mods, and that's where the boosts to defence will actually come from.

You are making it worse

Xcien · September 17, 2021 3:23AM

crzydroid wrote: »

Winterwolves wrote: »

1. Hopefully after the next round of GLs or other release so that there won't be any r9 requirements. Who am I kidding?

2. Hopefully an entirely new material and only that material to relieve the difficulty of getting to r8. Who am I kidding? More of everything to get to r8, and a new signal data that will be in a new cantina node that you can only fight with 5 r8 toons. Not simmable. To encourage "engagement".

3. The only info I've seen about r9 is - "R9 is going to make a big difference for tanks" or words to that effect. My speculation is that it can't be just a mastery and mastery related increase like all other relic levels have been.

If it was another step the same, then tanks would improve just as much as attackers, so no net change and no big difference for tanks.

Maybe it will have a background boost to protection, like happens with gear levels starting at 7? Maybe health? With the removal of most defence bypass, maybe defence? But if there is a targeted boost to tanks, surely there is some big boost for everyone?

Maybe r9 will be the gate for 7 dot mods, and that's where the boosts to defence will actually come from.

Sounds very CG-like. Don’t give them ideas.

emoore123 · September 17, 2021 4:19AM

Winterwolves wrote: »

scuba wrote: »

Winterwolves wrote: »

1. Hopefully after the next round of GLs or other release so that there won't be any r9 requirements. Who am I kidding?

2. Hopefully an entirely new material and only that material to relieve the difficulty of getting to r8. Who am I kidding? More of everything to get to r8, and a new signal data that will be in a new cantina node that you can only fight with 5 r8 toons. Not simmable. To encourage "engagement".

3. The only info I've seen about r9 is - "R9 is going to make a big difference for tanks" or words to that effect. My speculation is that it can't be just a mastery and mastery related increase like all other relic levels have been.

If it was another step the same, then tanks would improve just as much as attackers, so no net change and no big difference for tanks.

Maybe it will have a background boost to protection, like happens with gear levels starting at 7? Maybe health? With the removal of most defence bypass, maybe defence? But if there is a targeted boost to tanks, surely there is some big boost for everyone?

Don't get your hopes up.

My hopes are exactly where CG's track record has put them. In a garbage compactor on the detention level.

Huh. I just had my droid shut all of those down... Heard some screaming though, so not sure if it was in time😏

Ragnarok_COTF · September 17, 2021 1:47PM

crzydroid wrote: »

Winterwolves wrote: »

1. Hopefully after the next round of GLs or other release so that there won't be any r9 requirements. Who am I kidding?

2. Hopefully an entirely new material and only that material to relieve the difficulty of getting to r8. Who am I kidding? More of everything to get to r8, and a new signal data that will be in a new cantina node that you can only fight with 5 r8 toons. Not simmable. To encourage "engagement".

3. The only info I've seen about r9 is - "R9 is going to make a big difference for tanks" or words to that effect. My speculation is that it can't be just a mastery and mastery related increase like all other relic levels have been.

If it was another step the same, then tanks would improve just as much as attackers, so no net change and no big difference for tanks.

Maybe it will have a background boost to protection, like happens with gear levels starting at 7? Maybe health? With the removal of most defence bypass, maybe defence? But if there is a targeted boost to tanks, surely there is some big boost for everyone?

Maybe r9 will be the gate for 7 dot mods, and that's where the boosts to defence will actually come from.

Dear God

Here's how I see r9 going for me:

It's a trivial increase from r8 to r9, like r7 to r8 was. I treat it like r8 and ignore it until it's required for something.
It's a meaningful increase but not game breaking. Not sure what I do, depends on the cost.
It's an absurd increase that opens other gates like 7* mods. If the cost is as prohibitive as r7 to r8 is, I probably quit.

bluecheese · September 17, 2021 2:32PM

R9 is bad for for pilotless ships since those ships cannot be upgraded or mod

Mal fleet will be badly suffered

Kyno · September 17, 2021 2:35PM

bluecheese wrote: »

R9 is bad for for pilotless ships since those ships cannot be upgraded or mod

Mal fleet will be badly suffered

TBF, the odds of someone who only has Mal as an option facing fleets with r9 pilots is going to be rather low for a while.

papaofmom · September 17, 2021 2:36PM

crzydroid wrote: »

Winterwolves wrote: »

1. Hopefully after the next round of GLs or other release so that there won't be any r9 requirements. Who am I kidding?

2. Hopefully an entirely new material and only that material to relieve the difficulty of getting to r8. Who am I kidding? More of everything to get to r8, and a new signal data that will be in a new cantina node that you can only fight with 5 r8 toons. Not simmable. To encourage "engagement".

3. The only info I've seen about r9 is - "R9 is going to make a big difference for tanks" or words to that effect. My speculation is that it can't be just a mastery and mastery related increase like all other relic levels have been.

If it was another step the same, then tanks would improve just as much as attackers, so no net change and no big difference for tanks.

Maybe it will have a background boost to protection, like happens with gear levels starting at 7? Maybe health? With the removal of most defence bypass, maybe defence? But if there is a targeted boost to tanks, surely there is some big boost for everyone?

Maybe r9 will be the gate for 7 dot mods, and that's where the boosts to defence will actually come from.

7 dot mods after theyve introduced mod mats from GC and CG would probably destroy that game

scuba · September 17, 2021 5:36PM

Winterwolves wrote: »

1. Hopefully after the next round of GLs or other release so that there won't be any r9 requirements. Who am I kidding?

2. Hopefully an entirely new material and only that material to relieve the difficulty of getting to r8. Who am I kidding? More of everything to get to r8, and a new signal data that will be in a new cantina node that you can only fight with 5 r8 toons. Not simmable. To encourage "engagement".

3. The only info I've seen about r9 is - "R9 is going to make a big difference for tanks" or words to that effect. My speculation is that it can't be just a mastery and mastery related increase like all other relic levels have been.

If it was another step the same, then tanks would improve just as much as attackers, so no net change and no big difference for tanks.

Maybe it will have a background boost to protection, like happens with gear levels starting at 7? Maybe health? With the removal of most defence bypass, maybe defence? But if there is a targeted boost to tanks, surely there is some big boost for everyone?

I went to look at the data before I posted because I wanted to make sure of my thoughts
RE: R9 is going to make a big difference for tanks
There are 4 main stats that are boosted by relic level Str, Tac, AGI (S/T/A) and mastery
This could simply mean S/T/A boost for tanks will get a bigger boost than supports/healer/attackers, and the mastery stat boost will be the same, making the overall effect bigger for tanks than others.

SparkyBurns · September 17, 2021 9:20PM

bluecheese wrote: »

R9 is bad for for pilotless ships since those ships cannot be upgraded or mod

Mal fleet will be badly suffered

Considering the low gear costs to a very competitive Malevolence fleet I'm pretty OK with this

IntrepidFox · September 17, 2021 10:37PM

SparkyBurns wrote: »

bluecheese wrote: »

R9 is bad for for pilotless ships since those ships cannot be upgraded or mod

Mal fleet will be badly suffered

Considering the low gear costs to a very competitive Malevolence fleet I'm pretty OK with this

Absolutely kills our hopes for a future where ship power isn’t linked to pilot gear levels though.

scuba · September 18, 2021 1:29AM

bluecheese wrote: »

R9 is bad for for pilotless ships since those ships cannot be upgraded or mod

Mal fleet will be badly suffered

IIRC Crewless ships where tuned to R5
So a touch up to keep with crewed ships would take them to R7.
I don't see +2 speed and the other stat boost suddenly making them easily getting around the kit design of executor which is very anti malevolence/negotiator.

Sha1218 · September 18, 2021 2:09PM

We need more immediate ways to obtain signal data with all the relic requirements now. The game has outgrown the current availability provided by cantina alone (or the occasional assault battle and conquest).

I’d even appreciate CG putting more signal data packs in the store and not just in the weekly ones.

Ravens1113 · September 18, 2021 10:40PM

Sha1218 wrote: »

We need more immediate ways to obtain signal data with all the relic requirements now. The game has outgrown the current availability provided by cantina alone (or the occasional assault battle and conquest).

I’d even appreciate CG putting more signal data packs in the store and not just in the weekly ones.

Putting them in packs is not an acceptable solution. They need to address the gear/relic economy and come off their “natural solutions” stance they’re taking because naturally, the needs have far outgrown that sort of pace. Direct action is needed, weeks ago

AhnaldisGOAT · September 20, 2021 12:51AM

Ravens1113 wrote: »

Sha1218 wrote: »

We need more immediate ways to obtain signal data with all the relic requirements now. The game has outgrown the current availability provided by cantina alone (or the occasional assault battle and conquest).

I’d even appreciate CG putting more signal data packs in the store and not just in the weekly ones.

Putting them in packs is not an acceptable solution. They need to address the gear/relic economy and come off their “natural solutions” stance they’re taking because naturally, the needs have far outgrown that sort of pace. Direct action is needed, weeks ago

Almost fully agree, except for one thing. Direct action was needed MONTHS AGO

Legend91 · September 20, 2021 12:07PM

Unkar Plutt handing out half portions was GENEROUS compared to what CG gives us in chorequest for a 14 day long super grind event.

10 blue signal data? Great. Just 40 more chorequests and I got the signal data for the LV prerequisites ready.

miguelfoo · September 20, 2021 12:12PM

1. Probably before the end of the year

2. New stuff obtainable through a new raid, and droid’s brain obtainable through scav jawa using the golden stun/datapad/medpack

But who knows

radical_issue · September 20, 2021 1:58PM

miguelfoo wrote: »

1. Probably before the end of the year

2. New stuff obtainable through a new raid, and droid’s brain obtainable through scav jawa using the golden stun/datapad/medpack

But who knows

For the 1000th time, there's no new raid

Xcien · September 20, 2021 2:09PM

miguelfoo wrote: »

1. Probably before the end of the year

2. New stuff obtainable through a new raid, and droid’s brain obtainable through scav jawa using the golden stun/datapad/medpack

But who knows

The chance of a new raid coming is the same as the Mace Windu rework; unlikely, despite the community asking for it.

Kyno · September 20, 2021 2:30PM

Ravens1113 wrote: »

Sha1218 wrote: »

We need more immediate ways to obtain signal data with all the relic requirements now. The game has outgrown the current availability provided by cantina alone (or the occasional assault battle and conquest).

I’d even appreciate CG putting more signal data packs in the store and not just in the weekly ones.

Putting them in packs is not an acceptable solution. They need to address the gear/relic economy and come off their “natural solutions” stance they’re taking because naturally, the needs have far outgrown that sort of pace. Direct action is needed, weeks ago

I believe Doja has some news you may find interesting, but I cant say for sure, without actual details.

Kyno · September 20, 2021 2:32PM

Xcien wrote: »

miguelfoo wrote: »

1. Probably before the end of the year

2. New stuff obtainable through a new raid, and droid’s brain obtainable through scav jawa using the golden stun/datapad/medpack

But who knows

The chance of a new raid coming is the same as the Mace Windu rework; unlikely, despite the community asking for it.

But which one is more likely.....

miguelfoo · September 20, 2021 2:46PM

Xcien wrote: »

miguelfoo wrote: »

1. Probably before the end of the year

2. New stuff obtainable through a new raid, and droid’s brain obtainable through scav jawa using the golden stun/datapad/medpack

But who knows

The chance of a new raid coming is the same as the Mace Windu rework; unlikely, despite the community asking for it.

I don’t see so unlikely a new challenge AAT raid or a new level of challenge rancor raid.

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