Zealous ambition data disk is broken this conquest. CG has yet to address it and cancel this conquest. So what’s up @CG_SBCrumb_MINI. Why are more data disks broken. Do y’all just like kittening off your customer base?
I didn't feel like I saw any offense boost at all after equipping it, toons like Tarkin, R2, and GMY had been hitting like trucks with that disc before. But I've also only fought a few battles with it so far so I'm not totally sure it isn't just a matter of mechanics (high defense toons, buffs/debuffs etc). Also worth considering if maybe in the past the OP had the blue disc and now have the gray, the difference is pretty large.
Now that I've seen someone else say they see issues I'll try to keep an eye out.
Huh. When did that get announced? The only update to ZA I remember recently is this one from 10/7, but supposedly it was just changing the description to match the behavior (although I didn't see any description change).
That would definitely explain the change in behavior though. Glad I'm going to get my GL during this Conquest, with this change I'm going to need her!
I don't mind the change in behavior because honestly the way it was before that disc was broken (in the "makes this too easy" kind of way although it was certainly to my benefit), but that is a pretty huge change to behavior...I do mind that change not being clearly announced. I certainly would have picked a different disc had I known.
I don't mind the change in behavior because honestly the way it was before that disc was broken (in the "makes this too easy" kind of way although it was certainly to my benefit), but that is a pretty huge change to behavior...I do mind that change not being clearly announced. I certainly would have picked a different disc had I known.
I don't mind the change in behavior because honestly the way it was before that disc was broken (in the "makes this too easy" kind of way although it was certainly to my benefit), but that is a pretty huge change to behavior...I do mind that change not being clearly announced. I certainly would have picked a different disc had I known.
Fair, and I agree
Is it possible that all (or just some) of the other updates in that post that mention being description only updates were actually functionality changes?
I don't mind the change in behavior because honestly the way it was before that disc was broken (in the "makes this too easy" kind of way although it was certainly to my benefit), but that is a pretty huge change to behavior...I do mind that change not being clearly announced. I certainly would have picked a different disc had I known.
Fair, and I agree
Is it possible that all (or just some) of the other updates in that post that mention being description only updates were actually functionality changes?
I'm not sure, the people behind swgoh.gg shared the change with ZA, and I haven't asked about the other description changed data disk if they were modified too beyond the description
I have equipped Zealous Ambition (grey one with 34% bonus). Tested with Old Daka in Galactic Challenge and after that in Conquest (other used disks are Weak Point, Crit Debuffs, Vitality, these ones may affect results).
In Challenge (first picture) she hits for around 5,5k (on g11 toon).
My Daka had 83k health (lower stamina, dropped from 89k). With math, 34% of 83k is around 28k. Her offense was 4,2k, so by just this comparison she should hit approximately 7,5 times harder, but she doesn´t. She still hits for around 4k in Conquest (second picture), after also stacking offense from debuffs.
I also have seen drop of damage on other support characters like Piett (pretty much ITs) or Thrawn.
I have equipped Zealous Ambition (grey one with 34% bonus). Tested with Old Daka in Galactic Challenge and after that in Conquest (other used disks are Weak Point, Crit Debuffs, Vitality, these ones may affect results).
In Challenge (first picture) she hits for around 5,5k (on g11 toon).
My Daka had 83k health (lower stamina, dropped from 89k). With math, 34% of 83k is around 28k. Her offense was 4,2k, so by just this comparison she should hit approximately 7,5 times harder, but she doesn´t. She still hits for around 4k in Conquest (second picture), after also stacking offense from debuffs.
I also have seen drop of damage on other support characters like Piett (pretty much ITs) or Thrawn.
To be fair, defenses are very different between teams and such, as well as taking into account modifiers like over prepared.
Good point. Although there is influence of sector bonuses (Overprepared doesn´t increase defense afaik), it still just doesn´t seem to be working correctly, I don´t have any screenshots of last Conquest with Nightsisters but almost definitely Daka hits were much stronger from the beginning. Also I don´t know if this affects only some rarities of disk or all of them.
It does look to me like (even considering the change) the disc may not be functioning properly. Recognizing that screenshots would be preferred (but phone has a huge lag between when I tell it to take the shot and when it takes it which makes catching damage totals impossible even on 1x), here's what I'm seeing.
I'm seeing a damage boost to Bastilla (crit for 78k against zombie with her basic, which is clearly above her usual at G11).
I don't feel like I'm getting a boost to GMY, who was hitting about the same as Bastilla (usually he hits way harder than her, which makes it seem like maybe she's getting buffed and he isn't). When I have more energy I'll take the disc off to see how he compares without it, I'm not super confident about this one.
I'm definitely not getting a boost to G11 Jolee, who still only crits for 5k with the disc equipped (all damage numbers were in the same battle and against Zombie).
I'm not 100% sure that I'm not making a mistake or failing to consider some mechanic, but I'm feeling like maybe something with the disc is bugged after all.
Tarkin - No buff from ZA (same damage with or without the disc)
Palpatine - No buff from ZA (same damage with or without the disc)
Thrawn - Correctly receives buff
GMY - No buff from ZA (same damage with or without the disc)
Jolee - No buff from ZA (same damage with or without the disc)
Bastilla (LS) - Correctly receives buff
So, it seems like there is something causing some toons not to recieve the disc bonus even though they have the healer/support tag. This is definitely changed from the previous Conquest (or at least which toons are broken has changed, Tarkin and GMY's damage was definitely correctly boosted last time, that's basically my whole Conquest strat!).
I was wondering what was going on with that disk. Daka used to hit hard with it, now there is no change to her damage with or without the disk equipped. It still seems to work on IG-11.
I was wondering what was going on with that disk. Daka used to hit hard with it, now there is no change to her damage with or without the disk equipped. It still seems to work on IG-11.
The damage difference is huge, it is definitely pretty obvious whether it is working or not.
I wonder if this has anything to do with the whole Shaak-Ti-is-a-Tank thing. The disk isn’t looking for Supports and Healers, it’s looking for non-Attackers + non-Tanks.
I wonder if this has anything to do with the whole Shaak-Ti-is-a-Tank thing. The disk isn’t looking for Supports and Healers, it’s looking for non-Attackers + non-Tanks.
People all over discord are saying opportunisc support and defense formation are broken too. I have also noticed weak point disc works against some enemies but not all its buggy
People all over discord are saying opportunisc support and defense formation are broken too. I have also noticed weak point disc works against some enemies but not all its buggy
I’m pretty sure Opportunistic Support and Defensive Formation was changed, because it sure seemed like it was restoring more than 6% last time. Is it broken as in restoring less or broken as in not activating all the time / at all?
People all over discord are saying opportunisc support and defense formation are broken too. I have also noticed weak point disc works against some enemies but not all its buggy
I’m pretty sure Opportunistic Support and Defensive Formation was changed, because it sure seemed like it was restoring more than 6% last time. Is it broken as in restoring less or broken as in not activating all the time / at all?
Yeah, they did change the behavior for those (it was in the announcement).
I have the same mods equipped as previous conquest. I managed to clear sectors quit easily last time. Now, every battle that I don't field a GL I'm struggling to clear it with a full team standing. No matter what they say, a lot of the discs aren't working. They definitely won't fix it. They'll just defend it by saying "it's working as intended now".
My Sith Empire team with Maul + Savage can't even kill Mandalorians in sector 3 anymore.
Im doing normal conquest and strongest team is shaak led clones. Echo in previous conquests hits like a truck but there is definitely something wrong as his crit has gone from hitting for 120k to 15k. Definitely no boost in damage for my GMY either and now getting beat by Geos in sector 2.
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I didn't feel like I saw any offense boost at all after equipping it, toons like Tarkin, R2, and GMY had been hitting like trucks with that disc before. But I've also only fought a few battles with it so far so I'm not totally sure it isn't just a matter of mechanics (high defense toons, buffs/debuffs etc). Also worth considering if maybe in the past the OP had the blue disc and now have the gray, the difference is pretty large.
Now that I've seen someone else say they see issues I'll try to keep an eye out.
That would definitely explain the change in behavior though. Glad I'm going to get my GL during this Conquest, with this change I'm going to need her!
I don't mind the change in behavior because honestly the way it was before that disc was broken (in the "makes this too easy" kind of way although it was certainly to my benefit), but that is a pretty huge change to behavior...I do mind that change not being clearly announced. I certainly would have picked a different disc had I known.
Fair, and I agree
Is it possible that all (or just some) of the other updates in that post that mention being description only updates were actually functionality changes?
I'm not sure, the people behind swgoh.gg shared the change with ZA, and I haven't asked about the other description changed data disk if they were modified too beyond the description
In Challenge (first picture) she hits for around 5,5k (on g11 toon).
My Daka had 83k health (lower stamina, dropped from 89k). With math, 34% of 83k is around 28k. Her offense was 4,2k, so by just this comparison she should hit approximately 7,5 times harder, but she doesn´t. She still hits for around 4k in Conquest (second picture), after also stacking offense from debuffs.
I also have seen drop of damage on other support characters like Piett (pretty much ITs) or Thrawn.
To be fair, defenses are very different between teams and such, as well as taking into account modifiers like over prepared.
I'm seeing a damage boost to Bastilla (crit for 78k against zombie with her basic, which is clearly above her usual at G11).
I don't feel like I'm getting a boost to GMY, who was hitting about the same as Bastilla (usually he hits way harder than her, which makes it seem like maybe she's getting buffed and he isn't). When I have more energy I'll take the disc off to see how he compares without it, I'm not super confident about this one.
I'm definitely not getting a boost to G11 Jolee, who still only crits for 5k with the disc equipped (all damage numbers were in the same battle and against Zombie).
I'm not 100% sure that I'm not making a mistake or failing to consider some mechanic, but I'm feeling like maybe something with the disc is bugged after all.
Tarkin - No buff from ZA (same damage with or without the disc)
Palpatine - No buff from ZA (same damage with or without the disc)
Thrawn - Correctly receives buff
GMY - No buff from ZA (same damage with or without the disc)
Jolee - No buff from ZA (same damage with or without the disc)
Bastilla (LS) - Correctly receives buff
So, it seems like there is something causing some toons not to recieve the disc bonus even though they have the healer/support tag. This is definitely changed from the previous Conquest (or at least which toons are broken has changed, Tarkin and GMY's damage was definitely correctly boosted last time, that's basically my whole Conquest strat!).
The damage difference is huge, it is definitely pretty obvious whether it is working or not.
Shaak Ti is only a tank as a PvE unit within DSTB
I’m pretty sure Opportunistic Support and Defensive Formation was changed, because it sure seemed like it was restoring more than 6% last time. Is it broken as in restoring less or broken as in not activating all the time / at all?
Yeah, they did change the behavior for those (it was in the announcement).
My Sith Empire team with Maul + Savage can't even kill Mandalorians in sector 3 anymore.
It genuinely feels SOOOO good to read a response like this. I wish there was more of them where this came from.