It's a term that actually originated in the FanFic community, as I understand it.
You have hundreds if not thousands of writers all trying to tell some new Trek or SW or HP story to the fans who read the fanfic sites, and, well, not all of them can be good.
Not even most of them, really.
And a large number would take the opportunities presented by SciFi & fantasy to tell stories about perfect characters. For themselves it was about, I don't know, putting their hope and their love for the originals into words. But because the characters were so perfect, you couldn't ever manage a realistic plot. The characters were incorruptible and always had strokes of genius at just the crucial moment and were young but powerful, attractive, but never vain. Eventually the trend got a name, and that was MarySue.
I don't really know how much FanFic is concentrated in the USA, but I suspect that it's not so much geographical isolation that causes people to not know what a MarySue is. (After all, it originally came out of FanFic communities on the internet.) Rather I strongly suspect that the trope was restricted to the FanFic community for some years, then to the broader community of people who actually write and publish SciFi/Fantasy more broadly (meaning serious commercial authors to blog-writers) and no longer limited to FanFic. But even at that point where it was something discussed among writers as a pitfall to be avoided, I think the term wasn't on most people's radar until relatively recently.
It's a term that actually originated in the FanFic community, as I understand it.
You have hundreds if not thousands of writers all trying to tell some new Trek or SW or HP story to the fans who read the fanfic sites, and, well, not all of them can be good.
Not even most of them, really.
And a large number would take the opportunities presented by SciFi & fantasy to tell stories about perfect characters. For themselves it was about, I don't know, putting their hope and their love for the originals into words. But because the characters were so perfect, you couldn't ever manage a realistic plot. The characters were incorruptible and always had strokes of genius at just the crucial moment and were young but powerful, attractive, but never vain. Eventually the trend got a name, and that was MarySue.
I don't really know how much FanFic is concentrated in the USA, but I suspect that it's not so much geographical isolation that causes people to not know what a MarySue is. (After all, it originally came out of FanFic communities on the internet.) Rather I strongly suspect that the trope was restricted to the FanFic community for some years, then to the broader community of people who actually write and publish SciFi/Fantasy more broadly (meaning serious commercial authors to blog-writers) and no longer limited to FanFic. But even at that point where it was something discussed among writers as a pitfall to be avoided, I think the term wasn't on most people's radar until relatively recently.
I think it's more about inserting your own fanfic character into an existing narrative/franchise but having them be as important/powerful as the main characters of said narrative. So by that definition, one could argue that it's impossible for Rey to be a Mary Sue since the Sequels as a separate chapter from the rest of the franchise are her narrative (though technically Ahsoka IS a Mary Sue).
Non-relic Iden Versio can easily defeat…and I mean, EASILY…Relic 7 characters.
She is another massively overpowered Mary Sue, like Rey (Jedi Training), brought to us by Lucasfilm and EA.
What is the pointing of farming if such a character is tossed into the game!?!
Then maybe...farm her?
Nah. Clearly OP hates women and only farms the male units because they're the strongest.
Yes cause never is anyone allowed to dislike certain characters for being rediculus 🙄. Fact is op is right if you have a lvl 85 gear 9-10 omega 5 star mods team with lvl 7 minimum abilities, you shouldn't be getting clapped by a level 65 team, that is over powered. Not his fault female characters are either heavy weights or fly weights. But iden with advanced storm troopers is just no 100% over powered, at least Rey and bastilla can be taken down or be a close fight with their synergistic squad.
So get your kitten outta here even if it's just a jest.
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What relic tiers
What iden version team did you face
what relic / gear levels
If she was massively overpowered she would be able to take out GLs, which she can't
Wampa is female too, does that make her an OP Mary Sue too?
Brought to us by Lucas himself
What is the pointing of farming if such a character is tossed into the game!?!
Hint, Yammar: OP does NOT equal Mary Sue.
Did you just assume it’s gender!?
JTR is massively overpowered???? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Then maybe...farm her?
Stick Rey and Farmboy Luke too
Nah. Clearly OP hates women and only farms the male units because they're the strongest.
Common trope, not sure it's specifically American.
I'm British and the first I'd heard of it was when the sequels came out and Rey got the 'Mary Sue"treatment. So I think it's primarily an American-ism
Could be, but as an American, that was also the first time I had ever heard of it.
You have hundreds if not thousands of writers all trying to tell some new Trek or SW or HP story to the fans who read the fanfic sites, and, well, not all of them can be good.
Not even most of them, really.
And a large number would take the opportunities presented by SciFi & fantasy to tell stories about perfect characters. For themselves it was about, I don't know, putting their hope and their love for the originals into words. But because the characters were so perfect, you couldn't ever manage a realistic plot. The characters were incorruptible and always had strokes of genius at just the crucial moment and were young but powerful, attractive, but never vain. Eventually the trend got a name, and that was MarySue.
I don't really know how much FanFic is concentrated in the USA, but I suspect that it's not so much geographical isolation that causes people to not know what a MarySue is. (After all, it originally came out of FanFic communities on the internet.) Rather I strongly suspect that the trope was restricted to the FanFic community for some years, then to the broader community of people who actually write and publish SciFi/Fantasy more broadly (meaning serious commercial authors to blog-writers) and no longer limited to FanFic. But even at that point where it was something discussed among writers as a pitfall to be avoided, I think the term wasn't on most people's radar until relatively recently.
Touché!
I think it's more about inserting your own fanfic character into an existing narrative/franchise but having them be as important/powerful as the main characters of said narrative. So by that definition, one could argue that it's impossible for Rey to be a Mary Sue since the Sequels as a separate chapter from the rest of the franchise are her narrative (though technically Ahsoka IS a Mary Sue).
Yes cause never is anyone allowed to dislike certain characters for being rediculus 🙄. Fact is op is right if you have a lvl 85 gear 9-10 omega 5 star mods team with lvl 7 minimum abilities, you shouldn't be getting clapped by a level 65 team, that is over powered. Not his fault female characters are either heavy weights or fly weights. But iden with advanced storm troopers is just no 100% over powered, at least Rey and bastilla can be taken down or be a close fight with their synergistic squad.
So get your kitten outta here even if it's just a jest.