So the gears are turning in my head about the future of PvP with the new level 70 cap that is upcoming. HP's will increase, which will in turn increase heals. DPS will increase as will resistances, armor, dodge, potency and tenacity percentages. 10 more levels and 1-2 more gear upgrades a tank will actually be a tank. Potency and Tenacity are rarely spoken of on these forums but are extremely valuable percentages within the game. And they're about to increase...a lot.
So there is a good chance that the pvp meta could shift away from it's current state of either full blown aoe squads, 3 dps 2 healer, Counter attack/extra attack type teams that just try to burn the other team down quickly.... into a true RPG like classic form of tank/healer/DPS/buffer/cleanser. Using a tank in arena might not be so far fetched at level 70. I think people will shift from dps or healer heavy teams to a more balanced squad using buffers such as Poogle, cleansers such as Ackbar, debuffer and tank such as Poe and two of your strongest DPS in one team. Just a theory of course but I have some questions for people with high starred Ackbar & Poe...
What is Ackbars damage like? Is he a low hitpoint character? How well does his cleanse and heal work? How fast is his turn meter?
To the Poe users.....do you think Poe could be a viable tank at 70? What is his potency and tenacity at level 60 in epic tier? Does the expose stick reliably on at least 3/5 targets?
I would be very thankful for any feedback on these questions. I don't have Poe yet should in the next few days. I've had Ackbar for a while at level one so I am just now thinking of leveling him to 70.
0
Replies
Why would this suddenly reverse?
I think if you have sckbar and poggle you will likely lose a lot of defensive battles, especially if you have a tank too, you will either have not very many dps and heals and once one dps dies to focus you will have very little threat and the ai will not make optimal choices and is easily baited.
I have v limited info on ackbar tho, does not fit in with my aesthetic.
I see your points. I don't think it will reverse I think fights will be more dependent on synergies. The main reason I want Poe is expose and taunt. Expose coupled with Poogles offense up + say Tie Fighter or Luke is going to be nasty at 70. If Poe is a viable enough tank at 70 he could keep aggro of the squishies long enough to take out 1 or two targets. If ackbar could be used as a healer and a cleanser viably he could serve two roles with one spot.
And trust me the current meta is nothing like what it will be at 70. We are in the infancy of learning the game. And tanks, debuffers and cleansers wouldnt be in the game if they werent part of synergies. Just got to take the chance invest in unknowns and unlock them.
So far I have only really faced a high level Poggle and although his skills make me have to pop a heal a bit earlier than usual he dies pretty quick. That's might change with more levels, but I expect the stats and skills will scale pretty much the same.
Unless of course the cries of "Nerf" win out..
His leader skill gives 20+ speed to rebel allies, potential cleanse heal (could be a double edge if your allies have positive buff?), turn meter control
Coupled with leia and storm trooper han + phasma and you get a team of turn control Manipulators + very fast sniper you can also add in lando to abuse leia's crit buff.
Excellent idea.
Me too! I really think toons are going to get nasty at 70. Poogle is an awesome tool to have.
It's good to think outside of the box. Seems almost everyone else is running the same characters. Oh, another Phasma/Lumi/Sid/Dooku team?! Whatever will I do. So easy to beat because everyone has a ton of experience fighting these cookie cutter teams.
@shampoo Thank you so much man. That is awesome information. I'm really trying to think ahead to 70 and I want to try off the wall combinations but Im very limited in knowledge on so many unused characters including Ackbar. I def want to star him up now.
The problem is that it takes so long to get someone into fighting shape. Weeks/months. Couple this with the fact that we can't practice fights, and there's so much limited info out there.
Well said my friend. I'm def excited to push to 70 and create a team that doesn't follow what everyone is doing. That would get old just having the same clone teams. To many characters and options to settle for that.
Indeed. Thats why I just put a lot of thought into who I was going to take to 70 first and max there gear exclusively for Arena. My combo may totally blow at 70 lol. But it may not. Guess time will tell.
I'd have another backup plan. Since they nerf and buff characters the last update, it's hard to pin our hopes on entirely on certain characters. Just look at how Barriss owners fall.
Unfortunately, Akbar is awful in AI hands. I sometimes auto-play to see how AI handles him, and it will often blow his one useful skill - cleanse - on something trivial - after which it will blow the pass-turn ability, and Akbar becomes useless. So I'm conflicted, and I've gotten to the point where Sid's dots don't really scare me anymore, so Akbar is getting less mileage.
Also, it's possible he is bugged ... his cleanse does not appear to remove the heal-block most of the time - while it removes pretty much everything else. I wonder why that happens, since friendly toons should not have resistance to a cleanse. I suppose it may be related to potency of the caster that placed the buff.
Thank you! Great information. Thats odd if it doesn't remove heal debuff. I was counting on that.
I also like his stun ability...attack buff then control is a potent combo.
I think / hope it's just a bug. It happened twice to me - once cleanse is triggered, once in a while a dot remains. I had two different heal blocks (from Sid) not getting cleared, and one slow from Phasma. I wonder if there is an internal limit also to his ability. Since I still use him in rotation and just got him to gear 6 (gear 7 requires huge number of purple mats), I will pay more attention to his debuff ability.
I got very lucky and got Boba to 7 star last week so that freed me up for Poe. As crazy as it sounds I still would have 7* Boba first even if Poe was there from launch. Boba just fits into so many synergies, is extremely durable and has so many tools. But Poe is likely to be my new tank character if his expose lands with consistency.
Yeah I was all over the place my first week or two, otherwise I would have Fett at or near 7* by now. But no use crying over spilled milk. I may switch to simply farming his hard missions and focusing on poe in cantina. Too many purple mats to farm right now to effectively farm hard mission toons though.
Thanks for this.. I am slowly working on him but will be more focused now. He will be a great addition to the stable!
Are you saying Poggle has a stun ability?
Whenever I run across him in arena, he stuns about 65% of the time with his main.
I know he's supposed to ability block...but ive seen him stun...probably a glitch now that I think about it...one round he was consistently stunning my Lumi
I for one am really looking forward to some new teams. Don't forget that with the level cap, new chars will be released (over time) and potentially new events/challenges. The meta as it stands is very new and has already had 3-4 fairly decent shifts. Expect this to continue for the near future.
I,m using only 4* Poe and Poggle with Lumi and jawas, and i'm everyday no 1 arena with all 60 lvl 7** toe pilots, leas and so on! My team manages every battle without any problem and that's all because of poe and poggle sinergise with all glass cannons very well! Poe is too good not to spend all cantina shards on him.