I cleared GW yesterday even though I faced teams of max levels from node 5 onwards. I only lost poogle in the 11th node. However, to those who says that it is less cheesy, isn't it more obvious that we are relying more on RnG now?
RnG can either be your God or your bane in this new GW, not strategy. In the 7th node I faced purple geared Phasma, old Ben and Vader together, and I replayed it several times until RnG was in my favor using roughly the same team combination. Definitely not more difficult, but more TIME CONSUMING and BORING.
Doesn't it make more sense in the past to retreat? It happens in arcade games where we sub in characters to fight, in wrestling matches with the Tap in and out system, even in real wars retreat n regroup is a strategy too. It has more strategy in the past rather than to rely on RnG to be on your favor, especially when you do not have a deep bench and have to play with different characters in a single match. I agree, debuff n buff should stick even you retreat. But definitely not restore everything like nothing happened!
Yesterday I Retreated several times when my toon died, and I find it is just big CHEESE cause it is force close made much easier. It is like LEGITIMATE GAMBLING now. Isn't it no more different than rerolling a dice several times to get the combination you want? We know that even with the best team combination, if RnG is terrible like getting Dooku stunning 2 of your characters in 1st round followed by Daka stunning 2 more after Sid moves, it's more or less a done deal.
I feel that this game is even much more time consuming now with diminishing fun factor. To those who decide to adore the new legitimate gambling system, may the odds ever be in your favour.
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Its not gambling when you have farmed up a decent roster.
"New legitimate gambling system"? I think not, not even close. Its very strategic now that you cant just use an exploit to trick the AI into wasting specials. Who u bring matters whereas before u apparently could continue to run/hide causing the AI to waste turns smh. Earn it or dont get it, thats now the option as it should be
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Yes, instead you now use an exploit to ensure that the AI is stunned or ability blocked or killed before it can act. Such strategic.
Do you know how much it costs to set up a different team? After hitting lvl 60 2 weeks ago and maxing out Jc, Lumi and Sid, I have been farming poogle, 88, geo soldier and Phasma. It takes 1 million per character to level to 60. And I can't use them straight away because they are not yet 5*, and can only use poogle n Poe who hit 5* few days back.
This is not accounting the amount of training droids and ability mats. And lvl 3 ability mats limit how much you can progress in this game, less of money and training droids which I have sufficient till date. Of course other resources might become an issue and the rift will deepen further between fTp n pTp cause the level cap has been increased further.
Setting up different teams is of course the best solution, but how many can have different teams to try out unless they spend real money in this game?
I admire u for having different teams to trial and error though. Clap for you.
What? Thought the fixed the exploits ppl were using???
As i understood it, now if u retreat, the battle is reset so u must always fight the AI at full strength whereas before, you could wait till the AI blows their wod, retreat, and you were fully refresed while the AI was handicapped.
Now u can test teams etc. thats strategic.
Exploiting an unintended feature to handicap the AI, not so much (clever and cheap, but not strategic)
Thats the whole point of GW lol
The devs even said this already. If u dont have a deep enough roster of options, your not supposed to be able to complete it. Its not supposed to be a cake walk smh
If you want to play the game that way, I'm not about to stop you. But it's not how it is supposed to be played, as detailed in the new sticky discussion on GW. So I'd chill with the complaining if I were you. You're simply not strong enough to complete it. It's supposed to be that way. It's a game. There are challenges. Get better.
I know several FTP people who finish GW just fine btw. Just mentioning this as a disclaimer.
24 in a row like this so far and counting. *yawn* Pardon me, that always happens when I think about GW now.
If you bother to read my post, it's difficult but I didn't have problem clearing in the past, not a lot but 36 till date since hard launch, and I cleared it yesterday in the new system.
I believe that my complain is valid. Strategy in the past? There were many and you can search up previous threads, with many lengthy posts and great discussions, like who to take out first, when to retreat etc
Strategy now? I believe it's much lesser than before. Just substitute whatever characters u have in the rooster and pray for RnG to be in your favour. It is more of RnG manipulation now.
Like I mention in my first post, it's no longer strategy, but praying for RnG based on the 5 characters u pick, which is more similar to gambling.
the first 5 battles i can beat it with no Force close the app.. the 6th battle i messed up and they killed my Dooku. So i need to force close the app. I step up my game and beat the 6-8th battle without dying anyone. i force closed 2times during that.
Then once it get to 9th battles man they killed my Dooku, and luckily i able to beat them..
One my 10th battle. they killed my Daka, Dooku, and make my Cheww down to 1/5 of HP. So i only got Lumi and Sidious left.
11th Battle - i use my lv40 suicide squad. After that I use my (Lumi, sid, Talia, Boba, Asajji Ventress ).. cleared it it but my Boba, Asajji Ventress got killed..
12th is easy. because i still have Lum, sid, talia..and kylo, Tano, Savage Opress.. Phasma.
There are plenty of strategies to take into account when doing the battle too. When is the perfect time to throw in a heal? Should I save Victory March for next battle? Is it worth the gamble going after Sid with this Jedi character? All this strategy was pretty much non existent with the old retreating system. So even though I honestly try to understand why many think strategy has been removed from GW, I just can't.
Retreat was in the game as intended, it was just used to better effect than the devs realized it would be. Force close was the exploit, which is now the new retreat mechanic.
If a team have (Lumi, sid, Jedi) always kill Sid! make sure you kill before his healer use heal or cheww use his taunt.
My rooster team is Cheww, dooku, sid, Daka, Lumi.