So sad that guilds are breaking up
It's sad that the design of the new raid with Kenobi being the reward is breaking up guilds. Obviously unintended result. We have lost 10 members since update. ☹️
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REALLY surprised nobody from CG has even addressed it one way or the other. Like "hey we've heard the player feedback and we'd like to point out blah blah blah" or "we've heard player feedback and we are looking for ways to address the issue".
Maybe they are looking to see how it pans out for a few weeks but the point is most can't even access the new content as 81+'s and the only solution is to get more max toons quick AND join a full nearly max guild.
Well now that hard content is back they are dumping those guild to go back to strong ones...
Maybe they should have staid put no?
You guys make all a drama of guild "getting broken up" ... Couldn't you see that happen... If you build non homogenous guilds, the day something tough happens, it breaks... It's logic...
And it's what some of us had been warning against when this big "move the whale to lower guild to "help" them while getting easy top rancor rewards" movement happened in May/July .
So going forward think of who you are recruiting and for what reason...
Is it friendship, is it interest? And try to get more homogenous guilds where the base of it is friendship... Maybe then you will see more stability when the games throws easy or hard content...
I'm just saying that we knew that if something hard was ever gonna be introduced in the game, non homogenous guild would break... It's pretty obvious and logic no? (Unless bounded by real friendship which I think is probably unlikely in non homogenous guild formed post rancor to "optimize payout structure")
it was bound to happen. It doesn't take a crystal ball to predict something like this would eventually happen. @maraxus said it a while back during the whole "whales aren't welcome in guilds" era. Gotta give him credits for that, allthough i still think that alot of players benefitted from joining "weaker" guilds, and will just go back to a stronger guild now. Getting the best rewards in both scenario's.
'Previously, it wasn’t possible to launch both at the same time with the tools we had in place. Guilds would have had to choose between the two Raids, and the development team felt this would have caused some >divide between their members<
Well something went terribly wrong cuz excatly that is happening. Well done
Can't think of any game ever where a guild could ever be successful if you had super hardcore players and part time casuals. The content is completely different, the experience levels are different, the goals or lack of are different and quite frankly not everyone should be able to do everything.
If you put in the work, you want to reap the rewards, its the coattail riders that just don't want to put in the work but still want the rewards. You say its not fair that you can't get those rewards, actually its the opposite, those who did put in the work deserve to reap those rewards, its not their responsibility to do other peoples work as well.
There no mechanic in place to keep those bigger guns in guilds helping out those lower than them, I am sure plenty will. But thats a choice they have to make.
I agree with the general sentiment, but there is a huge difference between this game and a traditional PC MMO, and that is money. I understand the monetization strategy of this game cannot be the same as a game like WoW or FFXIV. Instead of saying "if you put in the work", I would change that to "if you put in the investment". It fits for this game (in terms of money) and a game like WoW (time and effort in learning your class).
I would preface the above by saying that I don't blame whales for wanting to consolidate.
Besides Kenobi shards, why do you NEED to do heroic? Every new gear piece added in this update is FARMABLE. By the time Kenobi becomes arena viable there will be more readily accessible characters that will make him seem less game breaking (see Han Solo).
Well, if they followed the same pattern of t6 rancor vs t7 rancor in terms of the rewards in the boxes, you will get a lot more gear out of the heroic raid. Currently, you can finish last in a t7 rancor and get more rewards than finishing first in a t6. That alone will drive people to leave guilds that are doing normal tank raids to jump to a heroic tank guild.
That's a good point that 6 months from now who knows what else will be out there that will make Kenobi less insane.
Unless you have clones though, in which case he kind of feels like our last chance for meta relevance.
This isn't like MMO raids, where everyone has to be online and working on it at the same time, so I don't think that's necessarily an apt comparison.
I think this hits the nail on the head about guilds. As I said on another thread, if TI or TS asked me to join their guild and do AAT heroic, I would politely decline, because I like my guild and guildmates and would rather slog through normal with them. If, however, I was in a guild that I didn't have that comradery, I would take the offer and not look back.
Now, there are other people who, despite liking their guilds/guildmates would take the offer and leave, because they get more pleasure from Kenobi shards and clearing heroic than from staying with the guild they are in. And there isn't anything wrong with that. But it's a personal preference. It's not the dev's fault. For those individuals, even if there was a normal tier that was manageable twice a week, they would still likely be tempted by the Kenobi shards and go to a guild where they could get them.
Exactly. I prefer the latter to the former. I realize there are others who are the opposite, and that's okay as well.
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Couldn't agree more, several of my friends guild died and my dad's guild.