Can someone explain this
Hey everyone,
At around level 30 i bought many rogue one packs to form a 4* Jyn, 4* Baze Malbus, 4* Chirrut Imwe, 4* Cassian Andor and 4* K-2SO arena party. Until level 50ish i was top 5 in arena, at around these levels many players have 3 maybe more than 7* toons like Calrissian, Boba... I'm currently level 60 btw.
With every level up i am getting the feel that i am unable to compete with 7* squads in arena and have dropped to 10 - 20 bracket. While my team power is 18k, ppl have around 24k.
Thanks to EA that i am unable to farm rogue one toon shards so i can't increase their stars thus i can't use these beast toons at rancor raid tier 5 later and tank raid normal + heroic.
My Questions:
1- Shall i switch to a another rebel party which i can farm their shards? I have 7* bistan and scarif rebel pathfinder. I have 6* admiral and working on Lando at 5* with either Biggs or Wedge on the horizon? Bistan might do something in the arena but i think even self-revive scarif has a poor kit, what do you think?
2- What's the idea or logic behind releasing a pack with un-farmable shards? Ppl paid money for this and they can't use them on top raids / arena at higher levels?
3- Are we able to see whats going on when the arena begins? like a combat log? Why i am asking this because i still dont know how a 166 speed Jyn in my team did not start the fight at 1st action against a 156 speed 7* Boba? The enemy had st han and he has a passive to remove turn meter but is not this only works when it is st han's turn?
At around level 30 i bought many rogue one packs to form a 4* Jyn, 4* Baze Malbus, 4* Chirrut Imwe, 4* Cassian Andor and 4* K-2SO arena party. Until level 50ish i was top 5 in arena, at around these levels many players have 3 maybe more than 7* toons like Calrissian, Boba... I'm currently level 60 btw.
With every level up i am getting the feel that i am unable to compete with 7* squads in arena and have dropped to 10 - 20 bracket. While my team power is 18k, ppl have around 24k.
Thanks to EA that i am unable to farm rogue one toon shards so i can't increase their stars thus i can't use these beast toons at rancor raid tier 5 later and tank raid normal + heroic.
My Questions:
1- Shall i switch to a another rebel party which i can farm their shards? I have 7* bistan and scarif rebel pathfinder. I have 6* admiral and working on Lando at 5* with either Biggs or Wedge on the horizon? Bistan might do something in the arena but i think even self-revive scarif has a poor kit, what do you think?
2- What's the idea or logic behind releasing a pack with un-farmable shards? Ppl paid money for this and they can't use them on top raids / arena at higher levels?
3- Are we able to see whats going on when the arena begins? like a combat log? Why i am asking this because i still dont know how a 166 speed Jyn in my team did not start the fight at 1st action against a 156 speed 7* Boba? The enemy had st han and he has a passive to remove turn meter but is not this only works when it is st han's turn?
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I don't know to much about rebels synergy so I can't answer what will work best.
3. Can you explain the speed of everyone on your team and your opponents?
I know for a fact @Josh_K has all the rebels.
2) The logic (EA's, not mine) is to make more money by making you buy chromiums to continue to level up those characters. Once you have an established roster though, Chromiums can be very hit or miss. And the more "miss", the more you have to buy.
3) In a specific battle, note specific leaders, heroes involved, etc, and post here. Fastest always goes first - but sometimes newer players or players who don't understand how specific abilities work/interact don't always arrive at the correct speed calculations. In your example, did you take any of Boba's mods into account? Did STHan start by taunting? (Which would boost Boba's turn meter, as per STHan's ability)?
In game guild: TNR Uprising
I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
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7* lando - 122 speed
7* boba - 156 speed
4* st han - 149 speed
5* leia - 157 speed
6* luminara - 144 speed
My arena power: 18,121
4* jyn - 166 speed
4* chirrut - 137 speed
4* k2so - 119 speed
4* cassian - 134 speed
4* baze - 93 speed
So when the fight starts shouldn't it be like this to act priority
1st jyn with 166 speed plays
2nd leia with 157 speed
3rd boba with 156 speed... ?
you have to pay money for those characters only because they cant be farmed. Thats why they're exclusive. If a $100 pack was filled with farmable characters, nobody would buy it because rhey can just buy the energy refreshes
As for your other questions: I would personally start working on other toons, because if you keep gearing those toons they will probably allow you to hold up in the arena, but you will hit a wall in some other areas of the game (you can't raid with 4* toons, you cannot do some of the events and challenges). Don't dismiss them completely. In particularly Chaze is a great combo to mix in with other rebels (perhaps try to farm STHan and Wiggs, which should give your team a renewal) or any team really (you could go with empire + chaze, but you don't have EP and god knows when that event will be back). Lando is kinda necessary for credit heist (absolutely essential in not too many levels), and is useful to have to slot in/out of your arena team too. And in general, get some 7* characters so you can go along in guild raids and start getting some characters over the first gear wall.
As for my other question shall i switch to a 7* farmable rebel team or continue with my rogue one synergy team?
Wedge (L) Biggs Lando chirrut and baze is a beast of a team
I would also advise beginning to farm Wiggs (Biggs from GW, Wedge from Cantina at level 72 I think). They work very well with that team. Another toon to start working on is Boba. Wedge (L), Biggs, Boba, Baze, Chirrut is a very formidable arena team.
This. Gear up Chirrut and Baze (star levels aren't nearly as important for either of those two). Farm the other 3. Profit.
In game guild: TNR Uprising
I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
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hp and damage (to an extent). Damage is much more affected by gear level and mods. Speed is only affected by gear level and mods. Same for protection.
Affects basic stats (STR, AGI and TAC), which in turn affect the important stuff. But with gear, both Baze and Chirrut are quite beastly regardless of how many stars they have, and a 4* Baze is generally a better character than most 7* tanks in the game. Of course, a 7* Baze is better than a 4* Baze, but that's not really what you're comparing him too, because nobody in your arena shard will have a 7* Baze for a long time to come (unless they spend obscene amounts of money).
The main downside of understarred chars is that you can't use them in certain parts of the game (mainly raids). But as long as you star other characters for that purpose, you're golden.
When Rogue One toons become farmable, you may want to revisit that team, but until then, you will probably want to branch out as others have said.
Was the Rogue One pack the limit of your spending? If you are planning on spending, buy crystals to use for cantina energy refreshes and gear from shipments. Even if not, in top 20, you should be getting enough to get buy. Try to avoid chromiums and other packs, because they are a huge gamble.
If you want to keep competitive in the arena you need to buy at least two energy and two cantina refreshes per day, at a cost of 300 crystals. If you don't you will fall behind in levels which will keep you from keeping up with your opponents gear levels. You also need lots of speed on your arena team. That doesn't usually mean speed sets though, mostly speed comes from 4-5* arrows with speed primaries and from mods that started with speed secondaries that upgraded at least once, or better yet twice.
If you consistently rank at least in the top ten in arena you can afford your energy refreshes with free crystals, if you get well into the top five you should be able to keep your arena team geared with free crystals too. But only if you play every single day. If you slack off or fall behind then catching up is incredibly difficult without spending money.
My idea was like this i had a budget which i could spend to lets say make a fast/good start into the game by forming a good arena team and as you have guessed trying to stay on top 5 so i could get a good amount of crystals as a reward so i could stop spending real money.
I could have bought more rogue one packs but there was a serious problem and it was not RNG. You can have a look at my inventory and understand. The character shards from r1 were not really random, i bought around 25 packs and after every pack i noted down which character shards i was getting.
Out of 10, 8 shards were always for either Bistan or Scarif. Thats way i have a 7* bistan & scarif but 4* for others. So just to get jyn 4* to 5* from buying the pack seemed like a big throw away as most of the excess shards would be waste. So i stopped buying from that pack.
My next idea was to reach top 5 in Jyn tournament so i have read up in this forum. To reach this goal i figured out that if i could have 5 different teams and spend around 15k ally point for each team i could reach top 5 which i did in the first 5-6 hours.
But meanwhile i was constantly dropping ranks in arena due to gearing and spending ability mk's on these other teams.
When the Jyn tournament finished i was rank 15 and was not able to 5* star jyn so that was a huge disappoint for me.
As you have stated now it is pretty hard to catch up in arena but trying to finish top 20 i will use those crystals for cantina and energy refreshes as they seem the better option to spend crystals.
You being at level 60 means you are severely limited in gear levels and ability levels. Gear and ability levels can make a bigger difference than stars.
Is it hard to click?:
CHARACTERS -> baze/chirrut/jyn/cassian/kso -> FIND -> see they are in Chromium packs only.
Thats the first thing i did after i installed the game and learn how to unlck champions in this games.
It never ceases to amaze me how people even make 100€ with dead brain.
Better throw money at it maybe it will go away...
Besides.
It's 2017 spending 100€ on a game doesn't unlock it.
Thats general knowledge.
But, alas, aside from Baze, they are NOT in Chromium packs...yet!
1- I do search before i buy products wheter it's a rogue one pack or it's a laptop. Don't judge people you dont know about any idea. Those 5 toons are very well synergized and gets me to top 20 in arena which is good from my point of view. The only thing i did not search or know was i was not able to use them in higher tier raids.
2- Those toons are not available in chromium packs so better you do a search before writing a post.
3- I have worked pretty hard in my life to the title i came today and i'm earning good enough to be able to spend what i set in this game, and wheter it's 100dollar or 1000dollar as long as it's my money it's not your business.
@lukeroks
I have found why i did fell a bit back in arena rating and started making improvements.
-In my current shard there are people at level 68 and i am level 63.
-Checked and saw that most people level 65+ have 4-5 rank modes, toons geared on g8 and most of them have abilities around 5-6.
-The biggest problem i face is when i fight against a sthan, boba, biggs, lando, admiral teams because of lando or boba leadership boba plays 1st and ability locks my Jyn, Baze and Chirrut. After this point mostly game is over because when stromtrooper han taunts and whenever you have to attack him he provides maniac turn meter boosts so that lando can aoe down you 2x or 3x times.
-I agree with you totally that if the enemy dont have boba + lando i win most of the games eventhough my squad power is lower.
-I have now started working on my jedi team so that i can attend higher raids.
To be honest there should be an option in the game where or when you dont want to attack. For example this stromtrooper han case if he has taunt and you can't dispel it, attacking is a very silly idea as all of team members will get many turn meter.
ST Han is more about turn meter manipulation than tanking.
I was wondering how some top 20 ppl got wedge and when i looked at his node, i understand that it was not possible until you got into higher level and started farming him. So some people bought him because he is really good especially with Biggs.
I have already stopped buying packs because their value regarding crystals are pretty low. You mostly dont get what you want.
I have now limited myself to 2 cantina / 3 energy refreshes per day.
Exactly but the problem is until taunt wears off from ST Han, and you don't have some who can dispel or is ability blocked chances are you have already lost the match. The counter to ST han - Boba - Lando does not seem to have much options. At lower levels i was able to play 1st with my Jyn and stun Boba, survive Lando aoe and win the match nowadays thats not possible due to Lando / Boba have a passive speed bonus which i will never pass with rogue one toons.
A) You may play shoretrooper if you have and he can grant critical immunity which will impact Lando's aoe damage down a lot
Other than these i dont see any counters to that kind of teams?
Also levelling faster is more important as you get new challange items which will make you gear your toons better&faster.
Refreshes is a much better use of crystals.