Protection Up Explanation [MEGA]

Sunnie1978
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edited April 2019
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CG_SBCrumb wrote: »
Hi Holotable Heroes,

With Padme’s kit we wanted to discuss how Protection Up works. Here are a few guidelines around Protection Up. These guidelines apply to all characters that use Protection Up and Bonus protection (currently found on Enfys Nest and Darth Traya). These guidelines are of course subject to change in future updates - but are accurate at the time of posting.


Rule 1: Protection Up is always based on current Max Health.

Examples:
1) If a unit has 10,000 Max Health and receives Protection Up (40%), the Protection Up will protect against 4,000 damage.
2) If a unit has 10,000 Max Health and Health Up (20%), their current Max Health is 12,000. If that unit receives Protection Up (40%), the Protection Up will protect against 4,800 damage.


Rule 2: By default, Protection Up is not intended to stack with other Protection Up from the same source (i.e. ability).

On occasion, we allow certain Protection Up to stack with others from the same source. When we decide it should stack with itself, we will call it out it in an ability's description that its Protection Up is "(stacking)". If an ability that provides Protection Up does not specify that it is "(stacking)", it should not stack with itself. All Protection Up can stack with other Protection Up from different sources. There is no hard rule to why some have stacking and others do not as it is primarily determined by balance needs.

Examples:
1) When Grand Master Yoda uses Masterstroke to copy Protection Up, then uses Battle Meditation and gains Protection Up, he will have 2 Protection Up since they are generated from different sources (different Special abilities).
2) When Grand Master Yoda uses Battle Meditation, he first gains Protection Up, then grants all allies (including himself) a Protection Up because he has one. This second Protection Up replaces the first Protection Up generated by the ability because they both come from the same source and the ability does not specify that the Protection Up stacks.

As a result of this, General Kenobi's Zeta upgrade on his Unique will trigger and he will Taunt if all allies were Galactic Republic at the start of battle.


Rule 3: Protection Up from a source will replace any current Protection Up from that source on the unit unless that Protection Up stacks.

Example:
1) Ahsoka Tano (Fulcrum) uses Balanced Strike and creates Protection Up (40%) on herself and another random ally that doesn't have it. She is then attacked for less than 40% of her Max Health and counter attacks, using Balanced Strike again. She will replace the damaged Protection Up on herself with a new Protection Up (40%).


Rule 4: Protection Up will protect against damage in the order the effects were applied.

Example:
1) Grand Master Yoda uses Masterstroke and copies Protection Up, then uses Battle Meditation to grant Protection Up to all allies. While both Protection Up buffs remain on Yoda, the next time he takes damage the Protection Up created by Masterstroke will be used first. If any damage exceeds the value of the first Protection Up, it will then be applied to the Protection Up created by Battle Meditation.





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  • Lichbane
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    Even the novel that is Revan didn’t need multiple posts on how his kit works. People who don’t come to the forums are going to be confused as hell when this mess hits the game.
    Where are the Stun Guns?
  • Gorem
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    Lichbane wrote: »
    Even the novel that is Revan didn’t need multiple posts on how his kit works. People who don’t come to the forums are going to be confused as hell when this mess hits the game.

    Starting to need a masters degree to understand the mechanics and remember everything going on in this game. Padme just adding to the pile
  • Billymadison
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    edited May 2019
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    Nice to have a detailed breakdown. So in gearing is it better to gear for Health because it will boost Protection up? Or does it benefit survivability to take advantage of the greater protection increases available through mods and allow for smaller protection up bonuses?
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    Take a shot everytime he says protection up.
  • Gryf
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    This reads a lot like the text from the Carbonite Han unique. At least that one was actually a joke ;)
  • IDinDooNuffin
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    edited May 2019
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    So what youre saying is she will solo P3 hstr and will get a rework in June when she comes around the second time so that the whales can exploit the "unintended" loop effectively keeping them around to whale on the upcoming release of Jar Jar?

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    When u use have to use "Protection Up" literally 36 times to describe what it does, do you ever think can't this be implemented in a more transparent understandable manner?
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    Lichbane wrote: »
    Even the novel that is Revan didn’t need multiple posts on how his kit works. People who don’t come to the forums are going to be confused as hell when this mess hits the game.

    Bah, they will figure it out. They are trying to win. It's amazing how effective learning can be when the students are trying to figure it out.
  • reovalis
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    I actually think it is well written and clear. The examples really help. Attacking it doesn't exactly encourage them to write more about the specifics of game mechanics.
  • DaScottx
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    edited May 2019
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    How does Protection Recovery (see Qi'ra's leadership) interact with protection up? Does the recovery only affect normal/base protection? Does "recovery: 10%" take into account prot up buffs and prot down debuffs (so, current max protection)? If protection is depleted, does it do nothing?
  • Nexis85
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    Very helpful. Thank you for making this post
  • Vos_Landeck
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    DaScottx wrote: »
    How does Protection Recovery (see Qi'ra's leadership) interact with protection up? Does the recovery only affect normal/base protection? Does "recovery: 10%" take into account prot up buffs and prot down debuffs (so, current max protection)? If protection is depleted, does it do nothing?

    There is no impact. Protection Up is a temporary shield of hit points that is calculated as a percent of the character's Health rating. At least that's how it reads in the code if you view the game mechanics on any ability with Protection Up on the swgoh site. It doesn't alter the character's base or max protection rating and so Qi'ra lead won't have any interaction with that.
  • StratosF34r
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    edited May 2019
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    At the rate CG is going with their characters and kits, we're going to have to get enrolled in a degree course the University of Capital Games.
  • Fhoenix
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    edited May 2019
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  • Clash2Far
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    Hey something to consider that isn’t mentioned here. If qira and Nest are running together, the protection regen Nest gets from her leader (10%) is based on the bonus protection she gets. So she can restore 100% of her underlying prot without 10 crits FYI. Making a video for this now.
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