Positive effects include:
Turn Meter Gain
Health Recovery
Protection Recovery
Assist Attack
Buffs
Revive
Ally Dispel
Health Equalization
Cooldown reduction
Isolate is to prevent one character being helped by other characters.
Reviving is a pretty big help...
What about night sister zombie? She helps herself
She helps herself... only in the presence of other Nightsisters. So if you kill them all then she is in effect... isolated. Then her self resurrection won't work. Or, Treya can isolate her.
While not directly stated in game, but outlined in the character profile in the forum, what would you consider a "positive effect"?
Personally, I would consider a positive effect to be a buff....... Anything adds a green status effect.... It's just a wording thing.
To me, blocking an ability from working is different.... I'm sure it's WAI, just could be worded better.....
Yes, but there are many other "positive effects" in this game, to say the only positive effects are buffs is a little narrow of a description. Also if it was buffs then wouldn't it just say that.
I don't think that revive should be prevented by isolate. Revive occurs after a unit has died. Once a unit dies they no longer have any negative status effects, which should include isolate. If a unit is isolated and killed, and then a revive is attempted 5 minutes later, that dead unit should not still be considered isolated just because it died while having that debuff. Of course it's WAI, but it doesn't really make any sense.
Can you revive the dead character if another of your heroes becomes isolated (and not the healer doing the reviving)? That would seem to fit with the description of Isolate better.
Well in the case of say Boba Fett or Sion it’s an actual buff that causes them to revive so I can see how Isolate can prevent it. But say GK dies while isolated. Can Jolee Bindo or Visas Marr revive him two turns later?
Well in the case of say Boba Fett or Sion it’s an actual buff that causes them to revive so I can see how Isolate can prevent it. But say GK dies while isolated. Can Jolee Bindo or Visas Marr revive him two turns later?
Nope. If they die while they’re isolated, they can’t come back.
Well in the case of say Boba Fett or Sion it’s an actual buff that causes them to revive so I can see how Isolate can prevent it. But say GK dies while isolated. Can Jolee Bindo or Visas Marr revive him two turns later?
Nope. If they die while they’re isolated, they can’t come back.
I’d say I’m surprised but considering what it takes to even get Traya I’m not. Oh well.
Also, the spirit of the Isolate ability is to prevent a character from being helped by their allies, thus isolating them. With this in mind, why should Boba's revive be prevented? It's an ability that does not depend on any ally.
Also, the spirit of the Isolate ability is to prevent a character from being helped by their allies, thus isolating them. With this in mind, why should Boba's revive be prevented? It's an ability that does not depend on any ally.
Actually that would apply to Sion’s Held by Hatred too. He’s already a very solitary character. He’s using his own hatred and the Force to keep himself alive and together.
Also, the spirit of the Isolate ability is to prevent a character from being helped by their allies, thus isolating them. With this in mind, why should Boba's revive be prevented? It's an ability that does not depend on any ally.
Actually that would apply to Sion’s Held by Hatred too. He’s already a very solitary character. He’s using his own hatred and the Force to keep himself alive and together.
Isolate is to prevent one character being helped by other characters.
Reviving is a pretty big help...
What about night sister zombie? She helps herself
She helps herself... only in the presence of other Nightsisters. So if you kill them all then she is in effect... isolated. Then her self resurrection won't work. Or, Treya can isolate her.
While not directly stated in game, but outlined in the character profile in the forum, what would you consider a "positive effect"?
Personally, I would consider a positive effect to be a buff....... Anything adds a green status effect.... It's just a wording thing.
To me, blocking an ability from working is different.... I'm sure it's WAI, just could be worded better.....
Yes, but there are many other "positive effects" in this game, to say the only positive effects are buffs is a little narrow of a description. Also if it was buffs then wouldn't it just say that.
I would rather a narrow description than a ambiguous one " positive effect " is every characters unique. isolate dosnt stop imperial troopers giving each other tenaciy or hit damage or chance from there unique. I think it means visable effects so anything you can see eg heal ,tm gain,buffs.
With boba it might be different though as his revive is a locked buff idk
Isolate is to prevent one character being helped by other characters.
Reviving is a pretty big help...
What about night sister zombie? She helps herself
She helps herself... only in the presence of other Nightsisters. So if you kill them all then she is in effect... isolated. Then her self resurrection won't work. Or, Treya can isolate her.
Her revive can’t be prevented
Yes I know. I shouldn't based on the way it's described IMHO, but it's not the only inconsistency.
Bosses need to block revives. Maybe not 100% or right away, but it makes forms with revives way more poweful than others vs bosses.
That's a good thing, it gives revive characters a place to shine. Healers and revivers are not very popular in arena and are not as widely used as the other classes in the game.
While not directly stated in game, but outlined in the character profile in the forum, what would you consider a "positive effect"?
Personally, I would consider a positive effect to be a buff....... Anything adds a green status effect.... It's just a wording thing.
To me, blocking an ability from working is different.... I'm sure it's WAI, just could be worded better.....
Yes, but there are many other "positive effects" in this game, to say the only positive effects are buffs is a little narrow of a description. Also if it was buffs then wouldn't it just say that.
I would rather a narrow description than a ambiguous one " positive effect " is every characters unique. isolate dosnt stop imperial troopers giving each other tenaciy or hit damage or chance from there unique.
It does if traya is dead. I think - at least in pretty sure a Bindo revived someone who was isolated when dying but then traya was killed and bindo revived someone
Replies
Turn Meter Gain
Health Recovery
Protection Recovery
Assist Attack
Buffs
Revive
Ally Dispel
Health Equalization
Cooldown reduction
Quoted from this post:
https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/160410/character-strategy-darth-traya/p1
Reviving is a pretty big help...
That thinking is flawed since boba can revive on his own..
But yeah, it is what it is.
What about night sister zombie? She helps herself
She helps herself... only in the presence of other Nightsisters. So if you kill them all then she is in effect... isolated. Then her self resurrection won't work. Or, Treya can isolate her.
Personally, I would consider a positive effect to be a buff....... Anything adds a green status effect.... It's just a wording thing.
To me, blocking an ability from working is different.... I'm sure it's WAI, just could be worded better.....
Yes, but there are many other "positive effects" in this game, to say the only positive effects are buffs is a little narrow of a description. Also if it was buffs then wouldn't it just say that.
Nope. If they die while they’re isolated, they can’t come back.
I’d say I’m surprised but considering what it takes to even get Traya I’m not. Oh well.
Actually that would apply to Sion’s Held by Hatred too. He’s already a very solitary character. He’s using his own hatred and the Force to keep himself alive and together.
... and my Sion did not revive... :-(
Her revive can’t be prevented
I would rather a narrow description than a ambiguous one " positive effect " is every characters unique. isolate dosnt stop imperial troopers giving each other tenaciy or hit damage or chance from there unique. I think it means visable effects so anything you can see eg heal ,tm gain,buffs.
With boba it might be different though as his revive is a locked buff idk
Yes I know. I shouldn't based on the way it's described IMHO, but it's not the only inconsistency.
I agree that is also inconsistent, and could be a bug.
Thrawn doesn't give them TM, he swaps his TM with theirs, it's a subtle difference. I'm pretty sure the devs have said this is WAI.
That's a good thing, it gives revive characters a place to shine. Healers and revivers are not very popular in arena and are not as widely used as the other classes in the game.
I would rather a narrow description than a ambiguous one " positive effect " is every characters unique. isolate dosnt stop imperial troopers giving each other tenaciy or hit damage or chance from there unique.