Vader should have a 'Reflect' ability similar to Han's 'Shoots First' - Bespin Face-off scene!
April 26, 2016 6:46PM
edited June 2016
Remember on Bespin, when Han Solo quickdraws on Vader and he just stops his blaster shot with his hand, then disarms solo?
Well, Vader should have a 'Reflect' ability which, like Han Solo's "shoots first", happens once per encounter.
The first time Vader is targeted (or AoE'd) for a damaging attack, the attack is not just evaded like foresight - it is reflected back at the caster with the full effects of the original power and an additional chance to stun. The character would still be able to resist effects with tenacity, defense would reduce damage, etc.
Granted, in the movie he does not reflect the blasters straight back at Solo, but this being a combat game, it would fit better to reflect the damage back at the attacker.
If there is a budget in the animation team, Vader should stop the attack by stretching his arm with an open palm, mimicking the movie. Can Obi-Wan's 'hand wave' animation be piggybacked here with adjustments?
It would be awesome because it's in-lore with Vader, and also perfectly counters Han Solo's ability, and also pays homage to the movies.
I just don't know what to call it...
"The Other Hand Wave" - Take that, Obi-Wan!
"Dinner Table Trick" - Yeah kinda lame, but it happened in a room with a large dinner table and Vader was at the far end. While Solo tried to surprise Vader, he was outwitted and "outforced".
"You don't know the power of the Dark Side" - A bit long winded and Vader says it in a different context, but a cool quote nevertheless.
"Deal With the Empire" - Lando announces he made a deal with the Empire to leave them be at Bespin just as they enter the room Vader is in. (only to quickly regret it later, as the Empire can't be reasoned with.)
Well, Vader should have a 'Reflect' ability which, like Han Solo's "shoots first", happens once per encounter.
The first time Vader is targeted (or AoE'd) for a damaging attack, the attack is not just evaded like foresight - it is reflected back at the caster with the full effects of the original power and an additional chance to stun. The character would still be able to resist effects with tenacity, defense would reduce damage, etc.
Granted, in the movie he does not reflect the blasters straight back at Solo, but this being a combat game, it would fit better to reflect the damage back at the attacker.
If there is a budget in the animation team, Vader should stop the attack by stretching his arm with an open palm, mimicking the movie. Can Obi-Wan's 'hand wave' animation be piggybacked here with adjustments?
It would be awesome because it's in-lore with Vader, and also perfectly counters Han Solo's ability, and also pays homage to the movies.
I just don't know what to call it...
"The Other Hand Wave" - Take that, Obi-Wan!
"Dinner Table Trick" - Yeah kinda lame, but it happened in a room with a large dinner table and Vader was at the far end. While Solo tried to surprise Vader, he was outwitted and "outforced".
"You don't know the power of the Dark Side" - A bit long winded and Vader says it in a different context, but a cool quote nevertheless.
"Deal With the Empire" - Lando announces he made a deal with the Empire to leave them be at Bespin just as they enter the room Vader is in. (only to quickly regret it later, as the Empire can't be reasoned with.)
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And he will never be as powerful as Darth Vader!
Nope 100% is perfect. 25% wouldn't be worth it at all. That's basically just giving him a damage boost on a counter attack. 100% would actually give people a reason to put him in the line up for arena.
Whaaaaat... Vader has a really strong synergy but its just hard to get stars for him, what really should be fixed is his AI, which always messes up what should be the easiest strategy. The way he's represented is done very well in my opinion, as what little he trades in speed for combat he retains in his large health pool, he's tough to avoid and turns weakness into serious damage, all traits similar to the movie guy. At least he didn't end up like Boba Fett, who sadly is one of the least threatening characters in the game
"I am your father"
It's a counter to the first shot suffered.
It pays perfect homage to the classic movie scene many of us know by heart.
It reflects the encounter should it ever happen in the game.
There could be two achievements to reenacting it, one for playing as Han Solo, another for playing as Vader!
Add in Kylo and Leia and you might be onto something.
As long as they add in a noooooooo squeal before the stun I'd be well impressed lol
Although for Kylo if on your team it calls an assist as well as the stun to enemy luke/Leia, if he on ememy team remove his turn meter out of respect
+1 this a great idea.
That is already baked in the mechanics in the spell blocking mechanics, which is irresistible by jedis.
His AoE is a translation of the force choke as well.
And his big NOOOO is his death cry.
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As for reworks, his main usability problem is that he is so slow that his force choke DoTs expire before he gets a chance to use his lightsaber throw's extra damage.
If I were to give him any rework at all, I would give him a self-buff on his force choke where he gets a % of TM on every negative effect caused on enemies.
More characters giving more debuffs on enemies would sinergize with him better.
That way he is still a slumbering behemoth, but speeds up to use his lightsaber throw sooner.
That plus the one off reflect attack would put him in a much more competitive position.