240 energy for TWO Crafting materials

I mean, i've read all the convos about the low drop rate for this and that, but today i hit a new low for how ZEN you have to be to actually play this game, jesus f'in ****. I sim'd 30 batles, yes 30 batles, to get 2 purple materials of which i need 20, where the hell is the reasoning behind this stupid drop rates? I feel stupid for even trying to play this crap. Great job at implementing, one thing is to call it random, the other one is to intentionally code crapy chances. "Random", yeah, right! Screw this.

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    You didn't have the best luck with RNG today, sorry to hear that good luck next time.
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    I am experiencing the same problem and resched the conclusion that if the material is to also be found in level 7, then I need to wait to level 7 as the drop rate there should be more normal. This happens a lotnwith the round purple "Dish-like" part you need tonupgrade Sid and it's a bit annoying to refil 120 and get one piece.
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    At least you got one, i payed 100 crystals for one extra refill thinking that i'd OBVIOUSLY get that last piece, guess what? I got jack ****.
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    Same thing here - 3 full energy refreshes to get 4 of the mark IV flash light things I need to purple gear my Phasma... Frustrating
  • JWH
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    It's RNG. Some days are worse than others. It's not fun. I get that. However, keep plugging away and your characters will be stronger than others. Those gear 7+ items are really nice when they're equipped and well worth farming, in my opinion.
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    I find that if I'm on a really cold streak, i leave the node and go do a challenge or a GW battle, train a toon, etc... and come back later or even try a different node for the same gear. I suspect there's a RNG seed like they mentioned in the GW discussion that only gets re-rolled once you come back after doing something else. I could be wrong, it's just a feeling, I don't have the numbers to substantiate it but if you're only going 2/30 leaving the node for a bit, if nothing else, might help with the frustration levels.

    This may be anecdotal but it also seems like some nodes are always more generous than others.
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  • Vampire_X
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    Also where you are farming from the harder the no i.e. the bigger the level like seven versus six gives you a better chance to get the more rare materials as well

    If you scroll across on the rewards and yes they do scroll another one of those hidden bars you can see the further down on the chain the more likely the reward the higher on the chain the rare but more valuable the reward

    This of course will not help you if you cannot defeat the hard nodes on level six and seven but just as a point of strategy
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  • Song
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    Dudomon wrote: »
    I mean, i've read all the convos about the low drop rate for this and that, but today i hit a new low for how ZEN you have to be to actually play this game, jesus f'in ****. I sim'd 30 batles, yes 30 batles, to get 2 purple materials of which i need 20, where the hell is the reasoning behind this stupid drop rates? I feel stupid for even trying to play this crap. Great job at implementing, one thing is to call it random, the other one is to intentionally code crapy chances. "Random", yeah, right! Screw this.

    which battle? which purple mats?
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    To everyone that keeps measly says "its RNG, sometimes its bad" just shut up. Ur supposed to be on the big boat with everyone else. If we let EA know it sucks to spend 100 crystals and sim the same battle to get nothing the will have to fix it. I still say there should be a marketplace where people buy and sell materials.
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    I've had days like that. Other times, i get like 4/5 on the purple mats. I went through like 200 energy once trying to get one blue item, insane. I think that yes, it gets frustrating but the chance is unique on each item, not the aggregate. Each time you roll, the same chance applies. If you didn't get one this time, it doesn't mean your chances improve on the next roll.
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    ive had many days like this.... then ive had some others where i have picked up 10/10
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    I pharking hate this bull game.
    I've invested over $200 and my toons suck.
    I'm now level 50 and getting demolished by level 47 arena players with 4 star Princess Leia and a bunch of other rares.
    I used crystals to buy energy, spending 218 just for 1 gear mat farm.
    I've bought 4x 8 chromium packs, I got a 2 star Leia and a bunch of useless shards for gimp toons.
    EA is a total random ripoff.
    This game feels more like a house always wins casino, not a fun game to pass time.
    Unbalanced fights, P2W toons that are way OP, Leia goes stealth , then doubles crits, then gets 3 shots in a row I mean get real EA, how can anyone that hasn't invests $100's get that at level 47 not t mention they other ridiculous 4+ star toons they had.
    If a F2P had to farm those stars, they would be level 50+ and still suck.
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    Song wrote: »
    Dudomon wrote: »
    I mean, i've read all the convos about the low drop rate for this and that, but today i hit a new low for how ZEN you have to be to actually play this game, jesus f'in ****. I sim'd 30 batles, yes 30 batles, to get 2 purple materials of which i need 20, where the hell is the reasoning behind this stupid drop rates? I feel stupid for even trying to play this crap. Great job at implementing, one thing is to call it random, the other one is to intentionally code crapy chances. "Random", yeah, right! Screw this.

    which battle? which purple mats?

    He means gear, you only get mats in Cantina battles and the mats challenge.
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  • ThePedroKid
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    edited January 2016
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    Judging by how they described their RNG system in the recent post it's not actually that random... It would still be prone to 'series' events. I'm sure there are much better math people here who can explain better than me; however, I know in the statistics from business models I read all the time no one would ever consider that 'old school' style of RNG generation as random at all.

    Edit: I wanted to add, they did acknowledge they wanted to 'adjust' things (very carefully not acknowledging that the high probability of a 'series' in the system they use exists) so, the devs are aware and will hopefully update their RNG system. Have faith.
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    To everyone that keeps measly says "its RNG, sometimes its bad" just shut up. Ur supposed to be on the big boat with everyone else. If we let EA know it sucks to spend 100 crystals and sim the same battle to get nothing the will have to fix it. I still say there should be a marketplace where people buy and sell materials.

    +1

    soooo true

    the best job in the world is Ea employee. u dont need to do anything. people will defend you to death whatever u do
  • Enterprise4691
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    edited January 2016
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    Nzchimeran wrote: »
    I pharking hate this bull game.
    I've invested over $200 and my toons suck.
    I'm now level 50 and getting demolished by level 47 arena players with 4 star Princess Leia and a bunch of other rares.
    I used crystals to buy energy, spending 218 just for 1 gear mat farm.
    I've bought 4x 8 chromium packs, I got a 2 star Leia and a bunch of useless shards for gimp toons.
    EA is a total random ripoff.
    This game feels more like a house always wins casino, not a fun game to pass time.
    Unbalanced fights, P2W toons that are way OP, Leia goes stealth , then doubles crits, then gets 3 shots in a row I mean get real EA, how can anyone that hasn't invests $100's get that at level 47 not t mention they other ridiculous 4+ star toons they had.
    If a F2P had to farm those stars, they would be level 50+ and still suck.

    You took the risk and got rekt. How is that unfair? What if you got enough shards for Leia to become 5*? Would you still be complaining? I don't think so.
    Players get so excited if they get something good and blame everything else if they don't. I think you should just s*** it up and play the game or start spending more. Maybe your luck will change someday.
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    Yeah just went 2/20 on those **** flying saucers and earlier today wasn't any better. What a bunch of dog ****
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    To everyone that keeps measly says "its RNG, sometimes its bad" just shut up. Ur supposed to be on the big boat with everyone else. If we let EA know it sucks to spend 100 crystals and sim the same battle to get nothing the will have to fix it. I still say there should be a marketplace where people buy and sell materials.

    Amen to that. Moderate spenders like myself won't put up with these kind of frustrating results in the long run. Especially when you need an exponential number of these as your characters progress. EA CG or whoever needs to start addressing major issues like this or risk losing a big chunk of the pie (i.e. the moderate spenders).
  • Song
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    edited January 2016
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    Song wrote: »
    Dudomon wrote: »
    I mean, i've read all the convos about the low drop rate for this and that, but today i hit a new low for how ZEN you have to be to actually play this game, jesus f'in ****. I sim'd 30 batles, yes 30 batles, to get 2 purple materials of which i need 20, where the hell is the reasoning behind this stupid drop rates? I feel stupid for even trying to play this crap. Great job at implementing, one thing is to call it random, the other one is to intentionally code crapy chances. "Random", yeah, right! Screw this.

    which battle? which purple mats?

    He means gear, you only get mats in Cantina battles and the mats challenge.

    i guess he mean he got 2 purple mats from 30sims.. and the gear required 20purple mats.
    FYI he didnt mention anything about Cantina.. Also Cantina doesn't drop any purple mats.
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    I've noticed that the RNG averages have been lower since the update. Sad part is, don't bother even mentioning anything because all you'll receive is smart answers from people who will enjoy making fun of you more than helping you...
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    JWH wrote: »
    It's RNG. Some days are worse than others. It's not fun. I get that. However, keep plugging away and your characters will be stronger than others. Those gear 7+ items are really nice when they're equipped and well worth farming, in my opinion.

    The problem is not luck, it's the low odds. Like playing russian roulette eith a 10,000,000 bullets barrel and getting killed, or buying every single ticket for the lottery but one, and always losing. Yeh it's luck, but the barrel and the lottery aren't playing fairly.

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    Song wrote: »
    Song wrote: »
    Dudomon wrote: »
    I mean, i've read all the convos about the low drop rate for this and that, but today i hit a new low for how ZEN you have to be to actually play this game, jesus f'in ****. I sim'd 30 batles, yes 30 batles, to get 2 purple materials of which i need 20, where the hell is the reasoning behind this stupid drop rates? I feel stupid for even trying to play this crap. Great job at implementing, one thing is to call it random, the other one is to intentionally code crapy chances. "Random", yeah, right! Screw this.

    which battle? which purple mats?

    He means gear, you only get mats in Cantina battles and the mats challenge.

    i guess he mean he got 2 purple mats from 30sims.. and the gear required 20purple mats.
    FYI he didnt mention anything about Cantina.. Also Cantina doesn't drop any purple mats.

    Cantina drops purple mats occasionally, but never purple gear.

  • Song
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    Try do those battle that require 16energy rather do the 8energy. Higher energy have better chance to get purple mats.

    If you didn't get the purple mats after 4 attempt. . Try exit out the game, or wait a little, or change other battle mission..
  • Cant_Deny
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    edited January 2016
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    I got them bad RNG feels too, OP. Hopefully we get a buff on drop rates. While I agree it should be challenging, to need so many when they are that hard to get is pretty annoying..
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  • Varlie
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    There seems to be a lot of bad blood when people mention the RPG but I'm going to take it in a different direction that seemed to work for me.

    I got this idea after they said the random seed number doesn't change on the GW if you don't change your lineup. If you are having a bad run of SIM battles trying to draw a purple resource, do a manual battle but change your crew.
    Then do more SIM battles. That seemed to change my luck although I have only tried it once so I haven't fully tested my theory yet.
  • HavokTrigger
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    edited January 2016
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    I'll put some salt in your wound. I got Dooku to lv 62 and sent him to gear 8 and in 3 refreshes maxed the rest of his gear. (Except the 50 blow dryers)
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    I was trying to get the flying saucers for sid
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