Buff dispel vs. foresight
Hi all,
I wonder, if this is a bug (from my point of view it is) or if it is meant to be like this.
E.g. the AOE of Deathtrooper should dispel ALL buffs (in german text it is "sämtliche", which means really all and any), but it does not, when the toons have foresight. Of course foresight should save them from getting damaged, but IMO not from the buff dispel, because it is just one of many buffs.
Maybe the devs could explain, if this is really meant to be like this!
Thank you in advance.
I wonder, if this is a bug (from my point of view it is) or if it is meant to be like this.
E.g. the AOE of Deathtrooper should dispel ALL buffs (in german text it is "sämtliche", which means really all and any), but it does not, when the toons have foresight. Of course foresight should save them from getting damaged, but IMO not from the buff dispel, because it is just one of many buffs.
Maybe the devs could explain, if this is really meant to be like this!
Thank you in advance.
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The short answer is, for deathtrooper they made the dispell dependent on damage, and that's the way it is.
However, you could make the argument that the wording be changed to make this more explicit.
You're right, it doesn't have any advantage. You wasted a special ability as a foresight remover. That's part of what makes foresight advantageous to use. Although the argument could be made if the whole group had foresight that it is worth it to use an aoe special to get rid of all foresight so that your other toons can attack them.
Foresight -> foresights gets removed, end
Evade -> end
Hit -> remove all buffs, basicDamage, end
Lets think: if you can't hit him - you can't change his abilitys
I did pop over to the mechanics, and both deathtrooper and B2 have the dispell listed before doing damage.
Dispel should dispel foresight BEFORE the foresight is used.
Foresight cause the the entire attack to be dodged just like a natural dodge (fs is just a guarantee dodge against avoidable attacks)
I believe the only way to dispel fs without it being dodged is if character is stunned, teebo bring low, Boba execute or Asajj dispel.
Vader' Culling Blade is great against foresight too. It hits really hard and most FS characters don't have large health pool
Assists on the other hand are two different attacks so the first attack wipes the foresight and the second attack lands the damage and/or any applicable debuffs. Same can be said on double attacks (Dooku, Boba, etc.)
If you are fighting a Jedi squad it is a bad idea to use aoe abilities to clear the foresight anyways unless you can apply buff immunity with B2 or something.
What bugs me is that Vaders basic can damage through foresight, wipe the foresight, and inflict ability block with tenacity up.
Are you sure it wipes the foresight? I know Grievous leaves it up after hitting, and I thought Vader did as well.
You're right it doesn't wipe the foresight, it's been a while since I've seen a vader. Just burnt through my GW to find one and I can confirm that vader does not wipe the foresight. My bad on that one.
And then there's General Kenobi (having the high ground of course)
Yes it is but if the opponent lives FS will/should stay up. So it doesn't trigger FS or dispel it.