If the AI in Arena battles was changed....

nite0wl29
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...do you think your chances of climbing the arena ranks would be better or worse? I just added Zylo to my Zader and on offense, it has been a LOT easier to beat other Zylos and Chaze. Obviously because the AI doesn't spam his zeta special. What if the AI was changed to do so? I ask this because I want the AI to better my team on defense, but then I think it would be a LOT harder if the AI were smarter.

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  • leef
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    there would be even more threads about characters being OP if the AI was better, even if it was just something small like focus fire.
    I also don't like dropping in rank due to AI being rather bad, but i love the ability to beat everyone on offence more than i dislike dropping in rank.
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  • nite0wl29
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    leef wrote: »
    there would be even more threads about characters being OP if the AI was better, even if it was just something small like focus fire.
    I also don't like dropping in rank due to AI being rather bad, but i love the ability to beat everyone on offence more than i dislike dropping in rank.

    Exactly, which I guess is why I made this post. Everyone complains about dropping in rank and how stupid the AI is on defense, but obviously it would seem changing the AI wouldn't be for player's favor.
  • leef
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    nite0wl29 wrote: »
    leef wrote: »
    there would be even more threads about characters being OP if the AI was better, even if it was just something small like focus fire.
    I also don't like dropping in rank due to AI being rather bad, but i love the ability to beat everyone on offence more than i dislike dropping in rank.

    Exactly, which I guess is why I made this post. Everyone complains about dropping in rank and how **** the AI is on defense, but obviously it would seem changing the AI wouldn't be for player's favor.

    long story short, people don't know what they want. They think they want something untill they actually have it and find out it sucks donkeyballs.
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  • ExarTheKun
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    If AI was any better, there would be one whale to rule them all on every shard. Let's hope it never happens.
  • Mzee
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    leef wrote: »
    there would be even more threads about characters being OP if the AI was better, even if it was just something small like focus fire.
    I also don't like dropping in rank due to AI being rather bad, but i love the ability to beat everyone on offence more than i dislike dropping in rank.

    Nailed it


    Some compositions just do better than others on defense.
  • Mastoraz
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    Making the AI stupid on purpose is bad design imo. Id rather have a solid, working, smart AI, and put some effort to win it, then this joke of a system we have now.
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    Mastoraz wrote: »
    Making the AI **** on purpose is bad design imo. Id rather have a solid, working, smart AI, and put some effort to win it, then this joke of a system we have now.
    I disagree
  • Juex777
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    edited May 2017
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    nite0wl29 wrote: »
    ...do you think your chances of climbing the arena ranks would be better or worse? I just added Zylo to my Zader and on offense, it has been a LOT easier to beat other Zylos and Chaze. Obviously because the AI doesn't spam his zeta special. What if the AI was changed to do so? I ask this because I want the AI to better my team on defense, but then I think it would be a LOT harder if the AI were smarter.

    At first I was annoyed about this.... But after using Zylo for a while, I think it's more balanced that he follows the AoE priority norm. If the AI was a lot better on defense in general, people would have a much harder time climbing the leader board..... Which might serve someone's preference while they were on top. Once once they slipped, it would be so frustrating to always lose on offense..
  • Juex777
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    Mastoraz wrote: »
    Making the AI **** on purpose is bad design imo. Id rather have a solid, working, smart AI, and put some effort to win it, then this joke of a system we have now.

    The AI isn't bad on defense on purpose... It's just relatively simplistic. Which is fine. I can imagine all the nerf the AI threads blowing up if they went to town with "if this, then that" coding. That plus bag rng and you'd often lose to teams you out match!
  • Juex777
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    It's better not to make the game too demoralizing by making it really hard to even climb when you're playing offense!
  • Olddumper
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    It would be huge in my favor I would likly get to sit in top 5 forever and I would need to be on at payout or suffer.
  • leef
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    Olddumper wrote: »
    It would be huge in my favor I would likly get to sit in top 5 forever and I would need to be on at payout or suffer.

    unfortunately for you there are only a few players like yourself, but a whole lot of players who need terrible AI to win xD
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  • Juex777
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    leef wrote: »
    Olddumper wrote: »
    It would be huge in my favor I would likly get to sit in top 5 forever and I would need to be on at payout or suffer.

    unfortunately for you there are only a few players like yourself, but a whole lot of players who need terrible AI to win xD

    That and.... Over time you could easily fall off your perch and never see top 5 rewards ever again.
  • leef
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    Juex777 wrote: »
    Mastoraz wrote: »
    Making the AI **** on purpose is bad design imo. Id rather have a solid, working, smart AI, and put some effort to win it, then this joke of a system we have now.

    The AI isn't bad on defense on purpose... It's just relatively simplistic. Which is fine. I can imagine all the nerf the AI threads blowing up if they went to town with "if this, then that" coding. That plus bag rng and you'd often lose to teams you out match!

    i'm reasonably sure it's on purpose. Focus fire should not be that hard to code, but would increase the amount of defence wins by alot. They could even add a "target low health first" relatively easy.
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  • Mastoraz
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    Its definitely on purpose. Many examples of bad AI coding that could easily be fixed to be at least play decent. What happens if we ever play, human vs human? Imagine that for second..
  • leef
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    Mastoraz wrote: »
    Its definitely on purpose. Many examples of bad AI coding that could easily be fixed to be at least play decent. What happens if we ever play, human vs human? Imagine that for second..

    the average player would lose ALOT more battles.
    If it was really PvP than atleast one guy would enjoy the win, but since that's never going to happen, so stronger AI would just mean losing more often on offence and dropping less far in rank overnight. Team strenght would be more important, but that's a double edged sword.
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  • leef
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    ow i almost forgot, imagine the threads about GW if the AI was improved.
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  • Neo2551
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    leef wrote: »
    ow i almost forgot, imagine the threads about GW if the AI was improved.

    Arena battle would be decided on who HAAT the fastest Poe generally if AI was better.
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