Ahsoka is NOT A JEDI

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Please read before posting another thread asking why Fulcrum isn't a Jedi.

Ahsoka has said multiple times "I am not a jedi", "I left the order" etc. This is referenced in Twilight of the Apprentice, Path of the Jedi and by Dave Filoni himself.

Lightsabers =/= Jedi/Sith. Example is Rey and/or Kylo.

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  • Nightlores
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    Ahsoka is a jedi, ATF aint .... but why bring this up?
  • Nikoms565
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    Nightlores wrote: »
    Ahsoka is a jedi, ATF aint .... but why bring this up?

    She's a Rebel. Hence Rebel Ahsoka Tano. Hence "RAT"
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    Mmm well actually the "Jedi" is a state of being, a oneness with the Force. It's not a guild status. You can leave the Jedi Order but still be a Jedi. So Ashoka / Fulcrum is a Jedi. Otherwise I must have missed when Luke Skywalker joined the Jedi Order in the OT. Its not like anyone ever pulle him up and said "Uh actually you're not a Jedi like you father or his father before him because you never filled out an application form. But if you just head back down the corridor and take your first left, you'll find the Information Desk and one of the Storm Informationists should be able to help you."
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    Nikoms565 wrote: »
    Nightlores wrote: »
    Ahsoka is a jedi, ATF aint .... but why bring this up?

    She's a Rebel. Hence Rebel Ahsoka Tano. Hence "RAT"

    Hello, PLEASE stop bullying the poor togruta.
  • Nikoms565
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    Nikoms565 wrote: »
    Nightlores wrote: »
    Ahsoka is a jedi, ATF aint .... but why bring this up?

    She's a Rebel. Hence Rebel Ahsoka Tano. Hence "RAT"

    Hello, PLEASE stop bullying the poor togruta.

    Hello, people calling her FAT is better? Lol.
    In game name: Lucas Gregory FORMER PLAYER - - - -"Whale blah grump poooop." - Ouchie

    In game guild: TNR Uprising
    I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
    *This space left intentionally blank*
  • leef
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    Nikoms565 wrote: »
    Nikoms565 wrote: »
    Nightlores wrote: »
    Ahsoka is a jedi, ATF aint .... but why bring this up?

    She's a Rebel. Hence Rebel Ahsoka Tano. Hence "RAT"

    Hello, PLEASE stop bullying the poor togruta.

    Hello, people calling her FAT is better? Lol.

    she's both very conscious about her weight (since she's a female (jokes, please don't be offenced)) and about being percieved as a snitch (since she left the jedi order).
    + she works partime at the ATF
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    leef wrote: »
    Nikoms565 wrote: »
    Nikoms565 wrote: »
    Nightlores wrote: »
    Ahsoka is a jedi, ATF aint .... but why bring this up?

    She's a Rebel. Hence Rebel Ahsoka Tano. Hence "RAT"

    Hello, PLEASE stop bullying the poor togruta.

    Hello, people calling her FAT is better? Lol.

    she's both very conscious about her weight (since she's a female (jokes, please don't be offenced)) and about being percieved as a snitch (since she left the jedi order).
    + she works partime at the ATF

    OK please stop. It's either Fulcrum or ATF.
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    DarthHoobs wrote: »
    Mmm well actually the "Jedi" is a state of being, a oneness with the Force. It's not a guild status. You can leave the Jedi Order but still be a Jedi. So Ashoka / Fulcrum is a Jedi. Otherwise I must have missed when Luke Skywalker joined the Jedi Order in the OT. Its not like anyone ever pulle him up and said "Uh actually you're not a Jedi like you father or his father before him because you never filled out an application form. But if you just head back down the corridor and take your first left, you'll find the Information Desk and one of the Storm Informationists should be able to help you."

    But it should matter what they say themselves. Luke says he is a Jedi "like my father before me" and grown Ahsoka says "I'm no Jedi." So it may have been that you missed those statements in whatever corridor you were.
  • Nightlores
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    Nikoms565 wrote: »
    Nightlores wrote: »
    Ahsoka is a jedi, ATF aint .... but why bring this up?

    She's a Rebel. Hence Rebel Ahsoka Tano. Hence "RAT"

    So people are calling her FAT and RAT... she would be **** to hear that.
  • Georgemi6
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    leef wrote: »
    Nikoms565 wrote: »
    Nikoms565 wrote: »
    Nightlores wrote: »
    Ahsoka is a jedi, ATF aint .... but why bring this up?

    She's a Rebel. Hence Rebel Ahsoka Tano. Hence "RAT"

    Hello, PLEASE stop bullying the poor togruta.

    Hello, people calling her FAT is better? Lol.

    she's both very conscious about her weight (since she's a female (jokes, please don't be offenced)) and about being percieved as a snitch (since she left the jedi order).
    + she works partime at the ATF

    OK please stop. It's either Fulcrum or ATF.

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  • RacerDejak
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    Georgemi6 wrote: »
    leef wrote: »
    Nikoms565 wrote: »
    Nikoms565 wrote: »
    Nightlores wrote: »
    Ahsoka is a jedi, ATF aint .... but why bring this up?

    She's a Rebel. Hence Rebel Ahsoka Tano. Hence "RAT"

    Hello, PLEASE stop bullying the poor togruta.

    Hello, people calling her FAT is better? Lol.

    she's both very conscious about her weight (since she's a female (jokes, please don't be offenced)) and about being percieved as a snitch (since she left the jedi order).
    + she works partime at the ATF

    OK please stop. It's either Fulcrum or ATF.

    I like Alcohol Tobacco Firearms

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  • BulYwif
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    Please read before posting another thread asking why Fulcrum isn't a Jedi.

    Ahsoka has said multiple times "I am not a jedi", "I left the order" etc. This is referenced in Twilight of the Apprentice, Path of the Jedi and by Dave Filoni himself.

    Lightsabers =/= Jedi/Sith. Example is Rey and/or Kylo.

    Rey has a lightsaber and you didn't put that info in a spoiler ?!? No need to watch Ep. 8 now ....
  • Big_Boss
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    DarthHoobs wrote: »
    Mmm well actually the "Jedi" is a state of being, a oneness with the Force. It's not a guild status. You can leave the Jedi Order but still be a Jedi. So Ashoka / Fulcrum is a Jedi. Otherwise I must have missed when Luke Skywalker joined the Jedi Order in the OT. Its not like anyone ever pulle him up and said "Uh actually you're not a Jedi like you father or his father before him because you never filled out an application form. But if you just head back down the corridor and take your first left, you'll find the Information Desk and one of the Storm Informationists should be able to help you."
    @DarthHoobs jedi is no state of being. The jedi are a order they are a group of people under the same ideals. If you leave the order you are not a jedi hence why when Dooku left the order he was referred to as count and not jedi master or whatever other title he could have had in the order.
  • Gank_Killer
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    Her name is Ahskrotum, and she will be remembered as such throughout history.
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    The tags are not just what you do, though. It's who you have some synergy with. For example:

    Ashoka classic has a nightsister tag in her leader ability, and it isn't because she "is" a Nightsister.

    Raid Han Solo was not a Rebel; he was doing the job for pay at that point, and said "I'm not in this for your Rebellion", but he has a Rebel tag.

    Old Ben tells Luke that he was "once Jedi Knight like your father"...implying he no longer is one, because the Jedi are extinct...but he has a Jedi tag.

    Ashoka may no longer technically be a Jedi, but she could certainly still have the Jedi tag given that her entire upbringing and training was with the Jedi. I totally understand why they chose not to give her that tag, but it's not as clear cut as some of you are acting like it is. Tags in the game never are.
  • Jedi_Reach_
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    leef wrote: »
    Nikoms565 wrote: »
    Nikoms565 wrote: »
    Nightlores wrote: »
    Ahsoka is a jedi, ATF aint .... but why bring this up?

    She's a Rebel. Hence Rebel Ahsoka Tano. Hence "RAT"

    Hello, PLEASE stop bullying the poor togruta.

    Hello, people calling her FAT is better? Lol.

    she's both very conscious about her weight (since she's a female (jokes, please don't be offenced)) and about being percieved as a snitch (since she left the jedi order).
    + she works partime at the ATF
    +1
    I loled irl.
  • Riffinator
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    Omeah wrote: »
    Lightsaber =/= Jedi/Sith (ex.: Pre Vizsla, Sabine Wren)
    Lightsaber user who is Light Side =/= Jedi (ex.: Light Sith, AHSOKA TANO...)
    Lightsaber user who is Dark Side =/= Sith (ex.: Knights of Ren - Kylo, Rakata...)

    UM actually Pre Vizsla had a Darksaber not a lightsaber
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  • Revi
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    If you leave the order it does not mean you are not a Jedi. Its no a membership is a state of being.
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    DarthHoobs wrote: »
    Mmm well actually the "Jedi" is a state of being, a oneness with the Force. It's not a guild status. You can leave the Jedi Order but still be a Jedi. So Ashoka / Fulcrum is a Jedi. Otherwise I must have missed when Luke Skywalker joined the Jedi Order in the OT. Its not like anyone ever pulle him up and said "Uh actually you're not a Jedi like you father or his father before him because you never filled out an application form. But if you just head back down the corridor and take your first left, you'll find the Information Desk and one of the Storm Informationists should be able to help you."

    +1
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    So Grevious uses 4 sabers...he must be a beast Jedi! Lol..
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  • Winstar
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    Ahsoka yoda in the face
  • Olga
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    Omeah wrote: »
    DarthHoobs wrote: »
    Mmm well actually the "Jedi" is a state of being, a oneness with the Force. It's not a guild status. You can leave the Jedi Order but still be a Jedi. So Ashoka / Fulcrum is a Jedi. Otherwise I must have missed when Luke Skywalker joined the Jedi Order in the OT. Its not like anyone ever pulle him up and said "Uh actually you're not a Jedi like you father or his father before him because you never filled out an application form. But if you just head back down the corridor and take your first left, you'll find the Information Desk and one of the Storm Informationists should be able to help you."

    Then why did Yoda tell Luke he was not a Jedi?
    Because he hadn't passed his final trial, which is to confront Lord Vader.
  • Olga
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    But actually yeah, you can leave the order and still be a Jedi but when you specifically state you aren't a Jedi, that implies you no longer practice Jedi teachings or are restricted by Jedi philosophy.
  • Jedi_Reach_
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    DarthHoobs wrote: »
    Mmm well actually the "Jedi" is a state of being, a oneness with the Force. It's not a guild status. You can leave the Jedi Order but still be a Jedi. So Ashoka / Fulcrum is a Jedi. Otherwise I must have missed when Luke Skywalker joined the Jedi Order in the OT. Its not like anyone ever pulle him up and said "Uh actually you're not a Jedi like you father or his father before him because you never filled out an application form. But if you just head back down the corridor and take your first left, you'll find the Information Desk and one of the Storm Informationists should be able to help you."
    +1. It's a state of being and a choice, not going to church (in this case, church would be the Jedi Order)
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    Georgemi6 wrote: »
    leef wrote: »
    Nikoms565 wrote: »
    Nikoms565 wrote: »
    Nightlores wrote: »
    Ahsoka is a jedi, ATF aint .... but why bring this up?

    She's a Rebel. Hence Rebel Ahsoka Tano. Hence "RAT"

    Hello, PLEASE stop bullying the poor togruta.

    Hello, people calling her FAT is better? Lol.

    she's both very conscious about her weight (since she's a female (jokes, please don't be offenced)) and about being percieved as a snitch (since she left the jedi order).
    + she works partime at the ATF

    OK please stop. It's either Fulcrum or ATF.

    I like Alcohol Tobacco Firearms
    Georgemi6 wrote: »
    leef wrote: »
    Nikoms565 wrote: »
    Nikoms565 wrote: »
    Nightlores wrote: »
    Ahsoka is a jedi, ATF aint .... but why bring this up?

    She's a Rebel. Hence Rebel Ahsoka Tano. Hence "RAT"

    Hello, PLEASE stop bullying the poor togruta.

    Hello, people calling her FAT is better? Lol.

    she's both very conscious about her weight (since she's a female (jokes, please don't be offenced)) and about being percieved as a snitch (since she left the jedi order).
    + she works partime at the ATF

    OK please stop. It's either Fulcrum or ATF.

    I like Alcohol Tobacco Firearms

    I just want to grow this enormous thread. Also just calling her Fulcrum is good enough for now. (Mostly because Kallus isn't in the game yet.)
  • JacenRoe
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    DarthHoobs wrote: »
    Mmm well actually the "Jedi" is a state of being, a oneness with the Force. It's not a guild status. You can leave the Jedi Order but still be a Jedi. So Ashoka / Fulcrum is a Jedi. Otherwise I must have missed when Luke Skywalker joined the Jedi Order in the OT. Its not like anyone ever pulle him up and said "Uh actually you're not a Jedi like you father or his father before him because you never filled out an application form. But if you just head back down the corridor and take your first left, you'll find the Information Desk and one of the Storm Informationists should be able to help you."

    Absolutely wrong. Being a force user doesn't make you a Jedi. Jedi are a religious order that she doesn't belong to. They have a very specific ideology, and beliefs about how to connect to the force which Ahsoka has rejected. Jedi don't have a monopoly on being one with the force (Sith), or even using the light side (Chirrut, Bendu, grey force users, etc) There are myriads of force users who aren't Jedi. If anyone wants to go read the Ahsoka book you can see how many times she says she isn't a Jedi, and doesn't deserve to be called one, and is uncomfortable around Jedi anything.

    And as for Luke, he couldn't go through the formalities of officially joining the order since it was wiped out. But two masters of the order (including Grand Master Yoda) trained him not just to use the force, but in the ideology of the Jedi, and he went on to rebuild the order, and become its Grand Master himself. He became the "Pope" of the Jedi order.

    Ahsoka is one of the most interesting characters in the SW universe precisely because she is a good, and moral person without strictly adhering to the light. She is not a Jedi, she will never get the Jedi tag in game, and no amount of complaints will change that. Accept it, and move on.

    Also she is not FAT.
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