Thrawn P3 Chirpatine will be unstoppable

Cardiff0

this will be nerfed after people have got their moneys worth on it im guessing

Cardiff0

To put some vague numbers on this lets say

5% counter chance = 1/20 hits countered

average EP hit = 10k

= 200k per hit from the B2

average boss hit = 4k

Average tank HPP = 80k, 2 tanks total HPP = 160k

160/4= 40 =

8mil on auto

EDP

I'm no maths teacher, but can you explain your working.
I give you 160/4 = 40 but this does not equal 8m. I think I have missed some steps you assume are logical. I want to see your argument because it's clear I don't understand some of the steps, can you please add some detail. What is the ability that this is based on?

Lugo

Think Chirpa, EP, Thrawn, Sabine, and a Tank would do best. Def down from Thrawn's Fracture and Armor break from Subine. Not sure if any tank can survive till enrage tho.

zhtd17

He meant: 2 tanks can take 40 hits from boss, then (with 5% counter chance) ep will hit for 40x20=800 hits before tanks are dead, every hit for 10k which leads to 800x10k=8M.

Lugo

zhtd17 wrote: »

He meant: 2 tanks can take 40 hits from boss, then (with 5% counter chance) ep will hit for 40x20=800 hits before tanks are dead, every hit for 10k which leads to 800x10k=8M.

B2 gets 5% tm every time he is hit. So 20 hits for 1 turn and 15 turns till enrage. Ep would only get 300 hits if b2 didn't counter at all

Cardiff0

EDP wrote: »

I'm no maths teacher, but can you explain your working.
I give you 160/4 = 40 but this does not equal 8m. I think I have missed some steps you assume are logical. I want to see your argument because it's clear I don't understand some of the steps, can you please add some detail. What is the ability that this is based on?

2 tanks can take 40 hits from the b2 before death, each hit is worth 200k as per above, 40x200k = 8mil

these are very rough figures anyway but just to give an idea of the annihilation

Lugo wrote: »

Think Chirpa, EP, Thrawn, Sabine, and a Tank would do best. Def down from Thrawn's Fracture and Armor break from Subine. Not sure if any tank can survive till enrage tho.

I dont think she could replace the survivability given by another tank, it literally doubles the hits you can get from EP

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However something i forgot initially with this was that boss droid will gain 5%tm from every hit, so actually it wont be quite as unstoppable as 8mil, id guess 4mil or so given i forgot that fact

Maegor

Lugo wrote: »

Think Chirpa, EP, Thrawn, Sabine, and a Tank would do best. Def down from Thrawn's Fracture and Armor break from Subine. Not sure if any tank can survive till enrage tho.

Lugo has spoken, rework for Thrawn's kit confirmed

Morpheus

Think the counter chance for boss will be fixed once the whales have done spending, but i suppose its ok to solo/quasi solo with thrawn cos its a guild effort thing for Thrawn

Cardiff0

Lugo wrote: »

zhtd17 wrote: »

He meant: 2 tanks can take 40 hits from boss, then (with 5% counter chance) ep will hit for 40x20=800 hits before tanks are dead, every hit for 10k which leads to 800x10k=8M.

B2 gets 5% tm every time he is hit. So 20 hits for 1 turn and 15 turns till enrage. Ep would only get 300 hits if b2 didn't counter at all

yeah this is true actually, i guess in that case perhaps sabine would be better

Lugo

Maegor wrote: »

Lugo wrote: »

Think Chirpa, EP, Thrawn, Sabine, and a Tank would do best. Def down from Thrawn's Fracture and Armor break from Subine. Not sure if any tank can survive till enrage tho.

Lugo has spoken, rework for Thrawn's kit confirmed

Lol. If thats the case let me tell you my ideas for triple cleanse.

EDP

Thanks for the clarification, I get it now. Can't wait to see someone try it, I wont be me though 7* is a long way away!

Lugo

Cardiff0 wrote: »

EDP wrote: »

I'm no maths teacher, but can you explain your working.
I give you 160/4 = 40 but this does not equal 8m. I think I have missed some steps you assume are logical. I want to see your argument because it's clear I don't understand some of the steps, can you please add some detail. What is the ability that this is based on?

2 tanks can take 40 hits from the b2 before death, each hit is worth 200k as per above, 40x200k = 8mil

these are very rough figures anyway but just to give an idea of the annihilation

Lugo wrote: »

Think Chirpa, EP, Thrawn, Sabine, and a Tank would do best. Def down from Thrawn's Fracture and Armor break from Subine. Not sure if any tank can survive till enrage tho.

I dont think she could replace the survivability given by another tank, it literally doubles the hits you can get from EP

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However something i forgot initially with this was that boss droid will gain 5%tm from every hit, so actually it wont be quite as unstoppable as 8mil, id guess 4mil or so given i forgot that fact

So in the same idea if a tank can take 40 hits from b2 and b2 is only gonna be able to do 15 for sure befor enrage then having 2 tanks is a waste. Subines armor break will increase the damage ep does on b2. Also 40-15=25 so the b2 can counter 25x as well befor enrage at 5% counter chance.

Bhaalor

See kids... this is why math is important in school!

Lugo

Bhaalor wrote: »

See kids... this is why math is important in school!

Lol

DaFunk

Cardiff0 wrote: »

To put some vague numbers on this lets say

5% counter chance = 1/20 hits countered

average EP hit = 10k

= 200k per hit from the B2

average boss hit = 4k

Average tank HPP = 80k, 2 tanks total HPP = 160k

160/4= 40 =

8mil on auto

Am I missing something but doesn't the B2 have 35% counter chance and not 5%.

Edit: Ignore me I wasn't taking into account Thrawns Fracture of -30% counter on raid bosses. My apologies. Carry on

Platzman

Armor shred lowers defense/armor.
Is armor really used against Special Damage (all EP attacks are special damage) ? I thought that it is not..

Lugo

DaFunk wrote: »

Cardiff0 wrote: »

To put some vague numbers on this lets say

5% counter chance = 1/20 hits countered

average EP hit = 10k

= 200k per hit from the B2

average boss hit = 4k

Average tank HPP = 80k, 2 tanks total HPP = 160k

160/4= 40 =

8mil on auto

Am I missing something but doesn't the B2 have 35% counter chance and not 5%.

Thrawns Fracture does -30% Counter chance to raid boss

xReDeMpx

DaFunk wrote: »

Cardiff0 wrote: »

To put some vague numbers on this lets say

5% counter chance = 1/20 hits countered

average EP hit = 10k

= 200k per hit from the B2

average boss hit = 4k

Average tank HPP = 80k, 2 tanks total HPP = 160k

160/4= 40 =

8mil on auto

Am I missing something but doesn't the B2 have 35% counter chance and not 5%.

Fracture lowers counter chance by 30%

Platzman

Armor shred lowers defense/armor.
Is armor really used against Special Damage (all EP attacks are special damage) ? I thought that it is not..

Platzman

Armor shred lowers defense/armor.
Is armor really used against Special Damage (all EP attacks are special damage) ? I thought that it is not..

Platzman

Armor shred lowers defense/armor.
Is armor really used against Special Damage (all EP attacks are special damage) ? I thought that it is not..

Gamorrean

@Lugo could you please make a new account with a Jar jar avatar before posting your ideas; they are getting nerfed if not

Lugo

Gamorrean wrote: »

@Lugo could you please make a new account with a Jar jar avatar before posting your ideas; they are getting nerfed if not

XD. Lol think dev's have better things to do then stalk my account... or do they?

Rumpelstilzchen

The devs just did a collective face palm....

Lugo

Platzman wrote: »

Armor shred lowers defense/armor.
Is armor really used against Special Damage (all EP attacks are special damage) ? I thought that it is not..

Haven't realy used Subine since she just became F2P farmable but will test her out with ep later and find out for sure:)

Fahrius

what about chopper+han solo?
45% dodge (30% from special + 15% from evasion up) and recovers 15% protection when he doesn't have protection.... it would be almost eternal lol

crzydroid

He gets 25% tm on counter, so every 20 hits, that's 1.25% per hit for the sake of argument. If he takes two turns before all adds are shocked, 1300/6.25=208 hits (assuming no deflections) is a little over 2M. If he takes more turns before Palpatine's loop starts, then even less. So you would have to maximize damage with the fracture/armor shred, but I don't see this ever getting over 3M. Still, will at least double Chirpatine, which should help. Though I don't know how many guilds that struggle with p3 will get 7* Thrawn this go around, but even 1-2 could help.

Onark

Platzman wrote: »

Armor shred lowers defense/armor.
Is armor really used against Special Damage (all EP attacks are special damage) ? I thought that it is not..

Defense is a catch all for armor (physical damage) and resistance (special damage) so Darksaber strike will benefit special damage dealers as well as physical damage dealers.

Spyda

Can armor shred take someone below 0% armor/resistance? And if so, would that theoretically amplify the damage that is done to that target as it does in other games?

edit: Rephrased question for clarification

Spyda

Also, does anyone know the total damage required to take down B2?