Rancor ties not actually random?

Krovv3n

So 3 raids in a row now its been the same order ranking for ties. Different order from before but clearly not random.

Fix this CG.

Anyone else actually seeing random placements over the course of several raids, or seeing the same ordering repeating?

Krovv3n

We had a couple more people post their solo damage in our current raid and it seems to confirm our guilds suspicion.

Ties score placement appears to be ordered by whomever posts their damage last gets the top spot.

THIS IS NOT RANDOM CG. Why can't you fix things the way you say you are "fixing" them?

@CG_Kozispoon @EA_Jesse @CG_RyDiggs @CG_TopHat @CG_NotReallyAJedi

Eclipso

lol the same way 40% escape chance works when you go 0-12 trying to escape P1 with Zylo. Hopefully that's just dumb luck and not actually the case just like I'm hoping that I don't go 0-12 again trying to escape P1.

ObiWanSteel

Last three raids in my guild I finished my run first but got second place. Tonight, I got distracted by some guild drama and posted last but got first place. It does make me wonder. Sample size is still a bit small to be making judgment but I know what I'm going to do tomorrow night!

Kitch

You need a decent sample size first.

Krovv3n

In each of our last 3 raids, whomever posts their solo damage first gets last on the list, whomever posts their damage last, gets best on the list.

At the time of my first post above, only 3 had posted their damage, all posting in the same order as previous raids. Now several others have posted their damage, each time they post, they get the top spot until someone else posts. That is not random, and clearly obvious if you are watching it as it occurs.

gseth

It random, today I posted last can 10th rank, 12-14 did solo.

Before 2 raids I posted first came 3rd rank and then 6th rank when i posted after 15 min.

niko2018

It's random, and it's definitely not base on when u post dmg, last time I did mine and was at second and in the end I stays second even tho I posted mine very early

Sewpot

Devs said it may look like the same but it's not.

Krovv3n

We'll see as time goes in but thus far in our guild whomever posts dmg last is getting the top spot and that was consistent today.

Byakuya

Its random when you place the 0. Scores the same score will place you the same as when you were 0

Belfazar

Maybe there is validity to your concern but im the most recent to post 0 in the pit but im not sitting at #1. But im not at the bottom where my player id placed me either

First_but_66_Order

I noticed that RNG is not that random.
Try yourself this:
In gw memorize what your steps are and what reaction you get from AI.
Then retreat.
Throw in the same squad and repeat the same you did before.
What happens:
-AI reaction will be the same (same abilities used, same results, same dmg dealt)
-If a debuff sticks to enemy it will stick second time as well
-If a debuff gets resisted it will be resisted second time as well
-If someone dodges an attack it will be dodged for the second time as well.
And so on.
That's An RNG whitout Generated Randomly

I think the same applies for every RNG in-game

Darknessie

3 rancors for us. I came 1st of 2 solos in 2 of them and 3rd of 3 solos in the other.

Looks random to me. Well as much as machines can do random.

Pyrefly

First_but_66_Order wrote: »

I noticed that RNG is not that random.
Try yourself this:
In gw memorize what your steps are and what reaction you get from AI.
Then retreat.
Throw in the same squad and repeat the same you did before.
What happens:
-AI reaction will be the same (same abilities used, same results, same dmg dealt)
-If a debuff sticks to enemy it will stick second time as well
-If a debuff gets resisted it will be resisted second time as well
-If someone dodges an attack it will be dodged for the second time as well.
And so on.
That's An RNG whitout Generated Randomly

I think the same applies for every RNG in-game

No, this is only the case in GW. It was done very intentionally.

CamaroAMF

First_but_66_Order wrote: »

I noticed that RNG is not that random.
Try yourself this:
In gw memorize what your steps are and what reaction you get from AI.
Then retreat.
Throw in the same squad and repeat the same you did before.
What happens:
-AI reaction will be the same (same abilities used, same results, same dmg dealt)
-If a debuff sticks to enemy it will stick second time as well
-If a debuff gets resisted it will be resisted second time as well
-If someone dodges an attack it will be dodged for the second time as well.
And so on.
That's An RNG whitout Generated Randomly

I think the same applies for every RNG in-game

That's just how GW works.

Acrofales

Just tested and disproved. We're in the 24hr 0 damage tagging for Rancor right now. I hadn't tagged yet (because I can make the raid anyway), but went ahead and tagged. Most of my guild already did so. I got put in 15th spot. So... definitely not order of posting damage.

E: and I'm below people who I "beat" based on player id.

Hskull55

First_but_66_Order wrote: »

I noticed that RNG is not that random.
Try yourself this:
In gw memorize what your steps are and what reaction you get from AI.
Then retreat.
Throw in the same squad and repeat the same you did before.
What happens:
-AI reaction will be the same (same abilities used, same results, same dmg dealt)
-If a debuff sticks to enemy it will stick second time as well
-If a debuff gets resisted it will be resisted second time as well
-If someone dodges an attack it will be dodged for the second time as well.
And so on.
That's An RNG whitout Generated Randomly

I think the same applies for every RNG in-game

Yes, this happens always

Hskull55

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Austin09370

First_but_66_Order wrote: »

I noticed that RNG is not that random.
Try yourself this:
In gw memorize what your steps are and what reaction you get from AI.
Then retreat.
Throw in the same squad and repeat the same you did before.
What happens:
-AI reaction will be the same (same abilities used, same results, same dmg dealt)
-If a debuff sticks to enemy it will stick second time as well
-If a debuff gets resisted it will be resisted second time as well
-If someone dodges an attack it will be dodged for the second time as well.
And so on.
That's An RNG whitout Generated Randomly

I think the same applies for every RNG in-game

Lol, back to Sherlock Holmes University for you. This is intended in GW.

First_but_66_Order

Austin09370 wrote: »

First_but_66_Order wrote: »

I noticed that RNG is not that random.
Try yourself this:
In gw memorize what your steps are and what reaction you get from AI.
Then retreat.
Throw in the same squad and repeat the same you did before.
What happens:
-AI reaction will be the same (same abilities used, same results, same dmg dealt)
-If a debuff sticks to enemy it will stick second time as well
-If a debuff gets resisted it will be resisted second time as well
-If someone dodges an attack it will be dodged for the second time as well.
And so on.
That's An RNG whitout Generated Randomly

I think the same applies for every RNG in-game

Lol, back to Sherlock Holmes University for you. This is intended in GW.

Ok, I was educated by the OLD GW system.
I bet you dont remember to that

Austin09370

First_but_66_Order wrote: »

Austin09370 wrote: »

First_but_66_Order wrote: »

I noticed that RNG is not that random.
Try yourself this:
In gw memorize what your steps are and what reaction you get from AI.
Then retreat.
Throw in the same squad and repeat the same you did before.
What happens:
-AI reaction will be the same (same abilities used, same results, same dmg dealt)
-If a debuff sticks to enemy it will stick second time as well
-If a debuff gets resisted it will be resisted second time as well
-If someone dodges an attack it will be dodged for the second time as well.
And so on.
That's An RNG whitout Generated Randomly

I think the same applies for every RNG in-game

Lol, back to Sherlock Holmes University for you. This is intended in GW.

Ok, I was educated by the OLD GW system.
I bet you dont remember to that

...this system is essentially the same as it has always been other then the few times they changed the difficulty of nodes.

The intent is for you to try different things with your roster in order how to best utilize them. That's why RNG doesn't exist in this as it does everywhere else.

Berimbolo

Its not random, I come in last of the solo's every time now, they didnt fix anything