Possibly the new and actual meta
For weeks, a guy on our shard has been dominating the rank 1 spot without any serious competition. I'm running by myself a double cleanse squad with kylo and I can only beat this squad with a lot of luck - or ending up with Kylo & Chirrut 2v3'ing it with Chirrut eating the ability blocks/stuns allowing Kylo to do his thing. It's a hit or miss for me, and I'm sure it's the same for anyone else in our shard.
It's such an amazing squad some copied it to compete with him. Or even better they all started adding Thrawn to their squad, but their Thrawn is barely worth targetting or he's vulnerable. For example no GK but a Shoretrooper with a mediocre taunt uptime (nihilus will dispell his taunt way too often) or no zeta on Thrawn's unique to prevent from rendering him useless due to stuns/TM removals etc.
Anyways the squad; Zader lead - SA - DN - GK - Thrawn. Yep you're right, no "broke-the-game-overpowered-whinemagnet" Chaze.
Basically the idea of this squad is having SA (273 speed) going first, followed up by Vader, followed by Nihilus who will land his drain force on everyone with a 100% chance because of Crushing force. Followed by a Thrawn starting off with Fracture on your tank. Then everything goes south; Nihilus using his annihilate quite quick, Vader oneshotting a char with Culling Blade, SA landing a massive crit, GK calling everyone to assist, GK buffing everyone with retribution forcing you to attack Vader or GK etc etc.
Tarkin lead variations of Thrawn squads, whatever you have, just aren't as good as this one.
It's such an amazing squad some copied it to compete with him. Or even better they all started adding Thrawn to their squad, but their Thrawn is barely worth targetting or he's vulnerable. For example no GK but a Shoretrooper with a mediocre taunt uptime (nihilus will dispell his taunt way too often) or no zeta on Thrawn's unique to prevent from rendering him useless due to stuns/TM removals etc.
Anyways the squad; Zader lead - SA - DN - GK - Thrawn. Yep you're right, no "broke-the-game-overpowered-whinemagnet" Chaze.
Basically the idea of this squad is having SA (273 speed) going first, followed up by Vader, followed by Nihilus who will land his drain force on everyone with a 100% chance because of Crushing force. Followed by a Thrawn starting off with Fracture on your tank. Then everything goes south; Nihilus using his annihilate quite quick, Vader oneshotting a char with Culling Blade, SA landing a massive crit, GK calling everyone to assist, GK buffing everyone with retribution forcing you to attack Vader or GK etc etc.
Tarkin lead variations of Thrawn squads, whatever you have, just aren't as good as this one.
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Edit: Resistance would be a good option here as well. They don't hold up as well on defense though against zVader. So might not be your best option.
It is if all he fights is triple cleanse. zVader eats cleanse teams.
Make Zader Great Again!
You still have to outspeed that fast SA. Otherwise you run the risk of getting TM reduced by DN or fractured yourself.
... Which is much better than 1 month ago where it was Rock, Scissors, and smaller scissors.
As far as I can remember, it's the very first time we have a real choice, that the meta is not a single team. We should celebrate this diversity!
So true.
Now, everyone seems to have moved on from that team.
I can't take 1st and 3 of my squad are still G10, but once they are geared, I have no doubt I'll contend for 1st. A previous poster was right...thrawn lead is a good counter. Zylo does well too. When facing a zylo, I don't use force crush as it just makes zylo good. The AI won't handle it that way.
Depending on the Vader speed, Rex doesn't stand a chance either. If your Vader isn't 200, a mid 200's speed Rex can tenacity up first inspite of the SA tm boost.
You haven't lost to a zaul team on defense? Then they have weak mods.
I threw a kitchen sink team in once and ended winning against the aforementioned team. I usually run a GK, chaze, DN, Zarriss team. Another guy was running the same team and was winning every single match. I was at 50% win rate and that wasn't cutting it. So I ran zaul, Sass, DN, EP, and OB. Haven't lost a match against the Zader thrawn team since. Others in my shard are saying it's tougher than it looks. I don't keep it in for long. I can guarantee I'll beat just about any thrawn team period with that team on offense. Defense is a different story. Just like my team can't hold on defense, neither can yours.
To be fair, I've just implemented Thrawn, so my Zaul brag is based on only 12 fights so far. I'm sure I'll lose to them. I just haven't lost yet. I have been displaced by zauls plenty of times.
The other Zader/thrawn team on my shard also reports no problems with zauls and he has been running his squad since thrawn came out so he has beaten way more zauls than me.
Not if you properly set the turn order...
Lmao top 50. Slow down tough guy.
What are these 2 squads btw.
Nah if sith assassin gives both enough tm to get to 100# tm mullato is right. It's a lottery who goes first
That's why i said, "not if you properly set the turn order."
Lol, just thought the same as you ^_^ I could just run SA and change to my Zvader team again, but too much hustle ^_^ I'll just stick with my Tarkin lead and fast thrawn, to just anihilate peeps with nihilus protected by kenobi and DT mass dispell Y_Y
Yeah. It's not hard to set the turn order for SA>Vader>DN. Those not understanding might have to break out those trusty math skills tho.
In short, thanks to this team's setup, before you would even move you would have lots of dots, cool downs would be increased, one toon would be stunned and another would be fractured.
If you're not running QGJ/Yoda or Maul (with zetas, of course) then this team a lot of people seem to be dismissing will just wreck you.
Thankfully my arena shard moved on from this team already.