Phoenix Squadron... The 6th character

DarkLord7

They all have their pros and cons, and since the zeta update I have considered choosing Sabine over Ezra and running Hera Zeb Chopper Kanan Sabine as opposed to Hera Zeb Chopper Kanan and Ezra. Any advice? Personal input? I love the protective durability of Zeb and Chopper, Kanan gives the counter and a wicked new zeta, Hera is an obvious essential, but Ezra's zeta is far weaker than Sabine's in my opinion. I am not sure if that puts her value over his. Before, I chose Ezra. Now I am not sure. And I want to know before I really take them to g10+

DatBoi

Either sabine or chopper. Depends on whether you want dps or survivability.

CoastalJames

Keep Ezra. Whatever you do.

The choice would be between Chopper, Sabine and Hera.

lladdir

CoastalJames wrote: »

Keep Ezra. Whatever you do.

The choice would be between Chopper, Sabine and Hera.

Hera? The character that makes the Phoenix as a squad viable? The only reason they can even be called decent?

CoastalJames

lladdir wrote: »

Hera? The character that makes the Phoenix as a squad viable? The only reason they can even be called decent?

I agree- and personally always use her for the reason you stated.

But read around - there's more than a few posting on here that have gotten Thrawn without her.


None have gotten him without Ezra.

Lesspopmorefizz

CoastalJames wrote: »

lladdir wrote: »

Hera? The character that makes the Phoenix as a squad viable? The only reason they can even be called decent?

None have gotten him without Ezra.

... this is wildly untrue.

yuuzhanron

You're right that the choice is between Ezra and Sabine. Hera is a necessity, then keep Zeb for protection, Chopper for health and assist, Kaanan for counters and health. So really the only question left is which attacker? I have occasionally run Sabine over Ezra on lower nodes of GW, she works well, but I've never tested in a more hostile environment, as I have yet to significantly develop her

CoastalJames

Ok apologies- excuse the hyperbole.

Please allow me to rephrase - most people, that I've read posting here on this matter, use Ezra in their Phoenix Squad to get Thrawn.

Lesspopmorefizz

CoastalJames wrote: »

Ok apologies- excuse the hyperbole.

Please allow me to rephrase - most people, that I've read posting here on this matter, use Ezra in their Phoenix Squad to get Thrawn.

Definitely true.

But I'd wager many more have done it sans Ezra than sans Hera.

westenger

CoastalJames wrote: »

lladdir wrote: »

Hera? The character that makes the Phoenix as a squad viable? The only reason they can even be called decent?

I agree- and personally always use her for the reason you stated.

But read around - there's more than a few posting on here that have gotten Thrawn without her.


None have gotten him without Ezra.

people hav gotten 7* thrawn without hera? Whoever who told you that they got him without hera are lying

HK22

I managed to unlock Thrawn running Hera, Kanan, Zeb, Sabine, and Chopper.

CoastalJames

I'll get my coat.

Admiral_Wh1skers

I say Ezra is better than Sabine without zetas. But with zetas, Sabine is better

Lord_Massacus

I think you can run a fairly viable Phoenix arena squad without chopper. Using Zeb and Kanan for protection, Hera and Ezra for assists, and all sorts of offensive power and lethality, I would think (I don't have their zetas quite yet) that using them without chopper would open up a whole other ballpark of opportunities. Not saying you can't choose chopper, I just think they're still very strong and useful without him.

BalecGonJinn

I never use chopper and my squad is pretty good. Got 5* Thrawn and beat the levels in TB.

crzydroid

CoastalJames wrote: »

lladdir wrote: »

Hera? The character that makes the Phoenix as a squad viable? The only reason they can even be called decent?

I agree- and personally always use her for the reason you stated.

But read around - there's more than a few posting on here that have gotten Thrawn without her.


None have gotten him without Ezra.

I got him without Ezra. Never seen a post about getting him without Hera though.

CoastalJames

^ I don't doubt that is the case.

DarkLord7

CoastalJames wrote: »

lladdir wrote: »

Hera? The character that makes the Phoenix as a squad viable? The only reason they can even be called decent?

I agree- and personally always use her for the reason you stated.

But read around - there's more than a few posting on here that have gotten Thrawn without her.


None have gotten him without Ezra.

There's no way someone could have beaten it without Hera unless they had insane gear. I feel that while Ezra is good, a zeta Sabine makes him replaceable. Hera is the entire purpose of Phoenix.

DarkLord7

Admiral_Wh1skers wrote: »

I say Ezra is better than Sabine without zetas. But with zetas, Sabine is better

That's my thoughts

Jetlife

Not sure how this is even a comparison. 100% tm with no debuffs allows Ezra to hit 3 times in a row, and he DOES hit harder than Sabine.
Dropping Ezra and not having that 2nd choosable assist is not worth it. The more times you can call zeb to assist so he can daze/stun is key for Phoenix Squad

DarkLord7

Jetlife wrote: »

Not sure how this is even a comparison. 100% tm with no debuffs allows Ezra to hit 3 times in a row, and he DOES hit harder than Sabine.
Dropping Ezra and not having that 2nd choosable assist is not worth it. The more times you can call zeb to assist so he can daze/stun is key for Phoenix Squad

Ok thanks. I really do like the Zeb assist Ezra can call. I just thought that with all of Sabine's exposes, her zeta might make them equal.

OnEMesSduPKiD

I run Hera, sabine, Ezra, kanan, and zeb.

I look at the utility of the unique abilities and feel that chopper is the worst.

NicWester

What are you using Phoenix for?

Use Chopper if it's an endurance battle (Galactic War, later Territory Battles, Thrawn, some other event) and use Sabine if it's a quick battle where damage is important (Arena, raids, etc).

Phoenix is interesting to me because of how versatile they are, but how that versatility comes at the cost of rotating one member in and out depending on the circumstances. Worst case scenario, work on all of them because their ships are quite good.

Jay_cube1

Bench Sabine and get everyone else to g8.

DarkLord7

NicWester wrote: »

What are you using Phoenix for?

Use Chopper if it's an endurance battle (Galactic War, later Territory Battles, Thrawn, some other event) and use Sabine if it's a quick battle where damage is important (Arena, raids, etc).

Phoenix is interesting to me because of how versatile they are, but how that versatility comes at the cost of rotating one member in and out depending on the circumstances. Worst case scenario, work on all of them because their ships are quite good.

Durability. I am really impressed with their GW performance. They are doing better than my g9-11 Sith team and they are mostly g8. I only use Sabine for ship improvement.