Under Talzin lead, non-attack specials still apply Plague to the target enemy. So who your attack crosshair is targeting is important; even when using Daka's revive, or Ventress buff removal, or Talia heal.
It's been a while since I've had a reliable "push auto and win" team since CLS came on the scene...
I've been running them in arena for a couple of weeks now (was using GK & Thrawn before the zombie/ acolyte combo could take their place) and they certainly have a place in the current meta.
Their reworks have also made for some new interesting raid compositions... still working on that
The team I'm using now is Talzin (double zeta), Asajj (zeta on unique), acolyte, Daka & a crummy 3* g10 zombie
Here's a video I just recorded just to show them in action!
It's been a while since I've had a reliable "push auto and win" team since CLS came on the scene...
I've been running them in arena for a couple of weeks now (was using GK & Thrawn before the zombie/ acolyte combo could take their place) and they certainly have a place in the current meta.
Their reworks have also made for some new interesting raid compositions... still working on that
The team I'm using now is Talzin (double zeta), Asajj (zeta on unique), acolyte, Daka & a crummy 3* g10 zombie
Here's a video I just recorded just to show them in action!
I think Zombie doesn't need a lot of HP but rather a good speed to taunt often. Plague is imo the best debuff in game for now and those nightsisters are actually fun to play (just use mine in GW for now, not geared enough).
It's been a while since I've had a reliable "push auto and win" team since CLS came on the scene...
I've been running them in arena for a couple of weeks now (was using GK & Thrawn before the zombie/ acolyte combo could take their place) and they certainly have a place in the current meta.
Their reworks have also made for some new interesting raid compositions... still working on that
The team I'm using now is Talzin (double zeta), Asajj (zeta on unique), acolyte, Daka & a crummy 3* g10 zombie
Here's a video I just recorded just to show them in action!
I think Zombie doesn't need a lot of HP but rather a good speed to taunt often. Plague is imo the best debuff in game for now and those nightsisters are actually fun to play (just use mine in GW for now, not geared enough).
I can get thru GW using nothing but NS since this rework. Zeta Talzin lead is great in GW. Almost certainly finish battles with a 5 still alive after all the revives.
Another helpful tip:
If you ever don't get Acolyte into stealth first turn, just use Talzin multi assist for another attempt. (Assuming your Acolyte is faster than your Talzin, which is almost always going to be the case)
Well, the all NS teams seem pretty tough. I was thinking of a MT lead for zombie speed boost, Zombie, JKA for healing immunity/buff immunity/aoe slam/quasi tank, Darth Sidious for another source of healing immunity/aoe expose to make JKa hit that much harder/heal and tm gain on death, and GK for cleanse/another tank to protect Talzin.
That comp seems to address everything but a dispell, but seems to have enough in place to allow plague to kill everyone since it maybe tough to target the enemy in the best kill order. I’m a month or so away from trying it, so would appreciate any feedback.
Well, the all NS teams seem pretty tough. I was thinking of a MT lead for zombie speed boost, Zombie, JKA for healing immunity/buff immunity/aoe slam/quasi tank, Darth Sidious for another source of healing immunity/aoe expose to make JKa hit that much harder/heal and tm gain on death, and GK for cleanse/another tank to protect Talzin.
That comp seems to address everything but a dispell, but seems to have enough in place to allow plague to kill everyone since it maybe tough to target the enemy in the best kill order. I’m a month or so away from trying it, so would appreciate any feedback.
I've tried Anakin in a NS team in GW. Honestly, he just doesn't hit anywhere near as hard as Ventress. Not even close. Sure, he'll gain a lot of extra turns, but so will a zeta Ventress. Ventress will be hitting for 45k near the end of the battle, however. There's just no reason to not include Ventress in a NS team.
Well, the all NS teams seem pretty tough. I was thinking of a MT lead for zombie speed boost, Zombie, JKA for healing immunity/buff immunity/aoe slam/quasi tank, Darth Sidious for another source of healing immunity/aoe expose to make JKa hit that much harder/heal and tm gain on death, and GK for cleanse/another tank to protect Talzin.
That comp seems to address everything but a dispell, but seems to have enough in place to allow plague to kill everyone since it maybe tough to target the enemy in the best kill order. I’m a month or so away from trying it, so would appreciate any feedback.
I've tried Anakin in a NS team in GW. Honestly, he just doesn't hit anywhere near as hard as Ventress. Not even close. Sure, he'll gain a lot of extra turns, but so will a zeta Ventress. Ventress will be hitting for 45k near the end of the battle, however. There's just no reason to not include Ventress in a NS team.
MT, zombie, NSA and Ventress seem like musts. Is JKA or Sid a viable 5th? Should be a lot of extra turns.
Well, the all NS teams seem pretty tough. I was thinking of a MT lead for zombie speed boost, Zombie, JKA for healing immunity/buff immunity/aoe slam/quasi tank, Darth Sidious for another source of healing immunity/aoe expose to make JKa hit that much harder/heal and tm gain on death, and GK for cleanse/another tank to protect Talzin.
That comp seems to address everything but a dispell, but seems to have enough in place to allow plague to kill everyone since it maybe tough to target the enemy in the best kill order. I’m a month or so away from trying it, so would appreciate any feedback.
I've tried Anakin in a NS team in GW. Honestly, he just doesn't hit anywhere near as hard as Ventress. Not even close. Sure, he'll gain a lot of extra turns, but so will a zeta Ventress. Ventress will be hitting for 45k near the end of the battle, however. There's just no reason to not include Ventress in a NS team.
MT, zombie, NSA and Ventress seem like musts. Is JKA or Sid a viable 5th? Should be a lot of extra turns.
I would say yes. I use Daka, but I'd say she's most replaceable. Anakin would get a lot of extra turns. And the combo of Plague and healing immunity works very well.
Well, I’m thinking arena specifically against GK/zarris or chaze(not that I see a lot of those). The point of my team is more defensive almost to the point of time out. I am relying on the opponent never ridding the plague
Agreed. Most fun team I've ever used. I'm running that same team and sitting at 14. Gonna zeta Talzin passive this weekend. Should help even more. I'm absolutely loving this NS rework.
hi all and thank‘s toTeague for open this thread. perhaps it is an idea to make a nightsister group in discord?
unfortunately my internet is slow and my english is more/less. i cannot use youtube, so i don‘t know all ideas, which are normal known...
my first question: how can we handle with baze?
actual i run:
talzin lead (zeta leadership)
daka
assajj
talia
zombie
my first question is:
how can we beat teams with baze/zarriss/kenobi?
my experience after one week is: sure rank under 50, perhaps top 20
the longer the fight goes, the more the sisters can win.
hi all and thank‘s toTeague for open this thread. perhaps it is an idea to make a nightsister group in discord?
unfortunately my internet is slow and my english is more/less. i cannot use youtube, so i don‘t know all ideas, which are normal known...
my first question: how can we handle with baze?
actual i run:
talzin lead (zeta leadership)
daka
assajj
talia
zombie
my first question is:
how can we beat teams with baze/zarriss/kenobi?
my experience after one week is: sure rank under 50, perhaps top 20
the longer the fight goes, the more the sisters can win.
Acolyte instead of Talia helps a lot. Also, I deliberately keep Zombie's crit chance as low as possible. This will help in not giving Barris teams health. You don't want a low damage character criting against her or Chirrut.
talia was in my first arena team and i like her cleaning and turnmeter and group healing with her basic attack. but of course acolyte helps with her invisibility. i just need little more time to gear her up.
assajj is a beast, if the fight goes longer and more heroes die...
what are good mods for talzin? put tenacity on her, but perhaps she should be fast?
Chaze and Zeta Barris are both a big problem it seems.
I've only been using Nightsisters in GW so far, but can't seem to get through the healing which gets rid of the plague (boooo!).
I am using MT zeta lead(G11),Ventress, (G11), Daka (G12), Acolyte (G11) and Zombie (G11).
Have had some success by just spamming as many special abilities as fast as possible (even Daka's heal when no heal is needed) to get as much plague down as possible as fast as possible.
Open to anyone who has more experience.
Chaze and Zeta Barris are both a big problem it seems.
I've only been using Nightsisters in GW so far, but can't seem to get through the healing which gets rid of the plague (boooo!).
I am using MT zeta lead(G11),Ventress, (G11), Daka (G12), Acolyte (G11) and Zombie (G11).
Have had some success by just spamming as many special abilities as fast as possible (even Daka's heal when no heal is needed) to get as much plague down as possible as fast as possible.
Open to anyone who has more experience.
By the end of a long battle with lots of deaths and resurrection deaths, Ventress is hitting so hard it really doesn't matter. By that point, Barris is just one hit. Not having Plague be very effective is a slight set back, but no big deal.
Chaze and Zeta Barris are both a big problem it seems.
I've only been using Nightsisters in GW so far, but can't seem to get through the healing which gets rid of the plague (boooo!).
I am using MT zeta lead(G11),Ventress, (G11), Daka (G12), Acolyte (G11) and Zombie (G11).
Have had some success by just spamming as many special abilities as fast as possible (even Daka's heal when no heal is needed) to get as much plague down as possible as fast as possible.
Open to anyone who has more experience.
Use a Ventress lead with the + offense and TM removal. You will cut through Barriss / GK and Chaze as well.
Chaze and Zeta Barris are both a big problem it seems.
I've only been using Nightsisters in GW so far, but can't seem to get through the healing which gets rid of the plague (boooo!).
I am using MT zeta lead(G11),Ventress, (G11), Daka (G12), Acolyte (G11) and Zombie (G11).
Have had some success by just spamming as many special abilities as fast as possible (even Daka's heal when no heal is needed) to get as much plague down as possible as fast as possible.
Open to anyone who has more experience.
By the end of a long battle with lots of deaths and resurrection deaths, Ventress is hitting so hard it really doesn't matter. By that point, Barris is just one hit. Not having Plague be very effective is a slight set back, but no big deal.
I just zetaed her I'm hoping she is as good as think and hear she is.
I'm running a pretty vanilla NS team in arena right now (MT, Asajj, Daka, Acolyte, Zombie), but am toying with other comps. Right now I'm gearing up my Thrawn to try out
Talzin
Daka
Ventress
Thrawn
General Grievous
Theory is Thrawn goes first, gives TM to Grievous, who drops his AOE heal immunity on 1+ enemies, then Talzin drops Plague. The heal immunity only lasts 1 round but should give plague more time to take root and gives you more opportunities to pile it on and help it spreads, esp. when fighting Chaze or other heal teams.
(Sidious might also be interesting here, because he's so fast, or Death Trooper, because his AOE heal immunity lasts 2 rounds, but I don't have Sidious or DT but I do have a 7* Grievous, so ... )
Crap - you know what, I think I just debunked my own theorycraft.
I forgot that zBarris's power isn't actually a heal, and therefore is unaffected by Heal Immunity. (Still a strategy I want to try against Chaze though!)
did MT and NS just become obsolete with the new kylo ? if new and old kylo take less damage from based attacks, doesnt this mean that plague, the brand new debuff, just got a nerf ?
I run a zeta cls (lead), zraid han, zr2d2, gk, and then either MT or DN. not sure if I should pull the trigger on zeta for ventress or old daka. I am almost at 7* w/ acolyte and would use a 3* zombie.
are the extra zeta's worth it for ns team or just wait for the new resistance/FO teams
Nightsisters are an amazing "push auto and win" team...
Very rare to lose an offensive battle when fielding a strong team,..
It's kind of obnoxious with the Acolyte/ Zombie combo... but I guess that's how they work... so maybe I don't feel so bad when they grind down the other team and pull out the victory through some "miracle" that always seems to happen
i make my first fights with my nightsisters in arena.
talzin (4*)leader (zeta)
asajj
old daka
talia
zombie (2*)
today i was able to reach rank 10 in a commander luke dominated arena.
i have a question: the zeta ability of old daka gives her 10% more max health, if she is alive and another sister is revived. the zeta-ability of talzin revive a "death" to assist another sister, who use her basic attack. if no enemy dies the assisting sister dies.
but in my discription they write of a "reviving". so also for daka's 10%?
if i understand right, each revival brings daka 10% more max-health. if she herself revive two sisters, she has 20% more max-health.
AND with the "talzin" revivals she has 40/50 % max-health in a short time.
zaka, one of the best zetas?
if the revival of zombie counts too - and in my german description they write "revive" - she had fast 70/80 % more max health.
someone of you has experience with her?
is it so, as i wrote?
I'm going to put a zeta on Daka next. Already have 2 on Talzin and 1 on Ventress. I don't know how good Daka's will be, but it seemed least important to me. Could make her more tank-y tho. And make her heal stronger. As her health goes up, her healing 50% of that is awesome.
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Under Talzin lead, non-attack specials still apply Plague to the target enemy. So who your attack crosshair is targeting is important; even when using Daka's revive, or Ventress buff removal, or Talia heal.
It's been a while since I've had a reliable "push auto and win" team since CLS came on the scene...
I've been running them in arena for a couple of weeks now (was using GK & Thrawn before the zombie/ acolyte combo could take their place) and they certainly have a place in the current meta.
Their reworks have also made for some new interesting raid compositions... still working on that
The team I'm using now is Talzin (double zeta), Asajj (zeta on unique), acolyte, Daka & a crummy 3* g10 zombie
Here's a video I just recorded just to show them in action!
I think Zombie doesn't need a lot of HP but rather a good speed to taunt often. Plague is imo the best debuff in game for now and those nightsisters are actually fun to play (just use mine in GW for now, not geared enough).
I can get thru GW using nothing but NS since this rework. Zeta Talzin lead is great in GW. Almost certainly finish battles with a 5 still alive after all the revives.
If you ever don't get Acolyte into stealth first turn, just use Talzin multi assist for another attempt. (Assuming your Acolyte is faster than your Talzin, which is almost always going to be the case)
That comp seems to address everything but a dispell, but seems to have enough in place to allow plague to kill everyone since it maybe tough to target the enemy in the best kill order. I’m a month or so away from trying it, so would appreciate any feedback.
I've tried Anakin in a NS team in GW. Honestly, he just doesn't hit anywhere near as hard as Ventress. Not even close. Sure, he'll gain a lot of extra turns, but so will a zeta Ventress. Ventress will be hitting for 45k near the end of the battle, however. There's just no reason to not include Ventress in a NS team.
I would say yes. I use Daka, but I'd say she's most replaceable. Anakin would get a lot of extra turns. And the combo of Plague and healing immunity works very well.
Zeta Ventress
Daka
NSA
Zombie (3*)
Finished arena today at 49. First top 50 in a long time, and only Nightsister team in top 50 (although I saw one other there a few days ago).
The zombie/NSA combo has saved me several times.
They’re working out well for GW, too.
This team is the most fun I think I’ve had since I started playing Jan. ‘16.
unfortunately my internet is slow and my english is more/less. i cannot use youtube, so i don‘t know all ideas, which are normal known...
my first question: how can we handle with baze?
actual i run:
talzin lead (zeta leadership)
daka
assajj
talia
zombie
my first question is:
how can we beat teams with baze/zarriss/kenobi?
my experience after one week is: sure rank under 50, perhaps top 20
the longer the fight goes, the more the sisters can win.
Acolyte instead of Talia helps a lot. Also, I deliberately keep Zombie's crit chance as low as possible. This will help in not giving Barris teams health. You don't want a low damage character criting against her or Chirrut.
assajj is a beast, if the fight goes longer and more heroes die...
what are good mods for talzin? put tenacity on her, but perhaps she should be fast?
I've only been using Nightsisters in GW so far, but can't seem to get through the healing which gets rid of the plague (boooo!).
I am using MT zeta lead(G11),Ventress, (G11), Daka (G12), Acolyte (G11) and Zombie (G11).
Have had some success by just spamming as many special abilities as fast as possible (even Daka's heal when no heal is needed) to get as much plague down as possible as fast as possible.
Open to anyone who has more experience.
By the end of a long battle with lots of deaths and resurrection deaths, Ventress is hitting so hard it really doesn't matter. By that point, Barris is just one hit. Not having Plague be very effective is a slight set back, but no big deal.
Use a Ventress lead with the + offense and TM removal. You will cut through Barriss / GK and Chaze as well.
I just zetaed her I'm hoping she is as good as think and hear she is.
Theory is Thrawn goes first, gives TM to Grievous, who drops his AOE heal immunity on 1+ enemies, then Talzin drops Plague. The heal immunity only lasts 1 round but should give plague more time to take root and gives you more opportunities to pile it on and help it spreads, esp. when fighting Chaze or other heal teams.
(Sidious might also be interesting here, because he's so fast, or Death Trooper, because his AOE heal immunity lasts 2 rounds, but I don't have Sidious or DT but I do have a 7* Grievous, so ... )
I forgot that zBarris's power isn't actually a heal, and therefore is unaffected by Heal Immunity. (Still a strategy I want to try against Chaze though!)
I run a zeta cls (lead), zraid han, zr2d2, gk, and then either MT or DN. not sure if I should pull the trigger on zeta for ventress or old daka. I am almost at 7* w/ acolyte and would use a 3* zombie.
are the extra zeta's worth it for ns team or just wait for the new resistance/FO teams
thoughts?
Very rare to lose an offensive battle when fielding a strong team,..
It's kind of obnoxious with the Acolyte/ Zombie combo... but I guess that's how they work... so maybe I don't feel so bad when they grind down the other team and pull out the victory through some "miracle" that always seems to happen
hi to the swhoh universe,
i make my first fights with my nightsisters in arena.
talzin (4*)leader (zeta)
asajj
old daka
talia
zombie (2*)
today i was able to reach rank 10 in a commander luke dominated arena.
i have a question: the zeta ability of old daka gives her 10% more max health, if she is alive and another sister is revived. the zeta-ability of talzin revive a "death" to assist another sister, who use her basic attack. if no enemy dies the assisting sister dies.
but in my discription they write of a "reviving". so also for daka's 10%?
if i understand right, each revival brings daka 10% more max-health. if she herself revive two sisters, she has 20% more max-health.
AND with the "talzin" revivals she has 40/50 % max-health in a short time.
zaka, one of the best zetas?
if the revival of zombie counts too - and in my german description they write "revive" - she had fast 70/80 % more max health.
someone of you has experience with her?
is it so, as i wrote?