Does the upcoming change to ig100s basic signify that the devs will have no plans to buff Defense?

meanpride

Basic will read: Deal Physical damage to target enemy with a 30% chance to inflict Offense Down for 2 turns. Instead of the Defense Up

Are they just going to slowly remove Defense-up in the game and leave the meta as is with Defense being basically useless?

Higher

I bet greivous will synergiZe real good with ig100

Nonemo

Good question. I'm perplexed about the way they're handling defense in this game. For now at least, Defense type manipulation skills are pointless.

pay2win

Sure

Nikoms565

It's all about dat shot, bought dat shot, no defense....

xJazzx

meanpride wrote: »

Basic will read: Deal Physical damage to target enemy with a 30% chance to inflict Offense Down for 2 turns. Instead of the Defense Up

Are they just going to slowly remove Defense-up in the game and leave the meta as is with Defense being basically useless?

Is this 30% ability at level 1 or 7?

D_Millennial

xJazzx wrote: »

meanpride wrote: »

Basic will read: Deal Physical damage to target enemy with a 30% chance to inflict Offense Down for 2 turns. Instead of the Defense Up

Are they just going to slowly remove Defense-up in the game and leave the meta as is with Defense being basically useless?

Is this 30% ability at level 1 or 7?

That's what I was wondering as well. If those are level 7 abilities I feel like they've nerved him, particularly his passive and special.

Noktarn

He gets fast when the ignored. Looking forward to running by a full boat droid team with grevious

xJazzx

D_Millennial wrote: »

xJazzx wrote: »

meanpride wrote: »

Basic will read: Deal Physical damage to target enemy with a 30% chance to inflict Offense Down for 2 turns. Instead of the Defense Up

Are they just going to slowly remove Defense-up in the game and leave the meta as is with Defense being basically useless?

Is this 30% ability at level 1 or 7?

That's what I was wondering as well. If those are level 7 abilities I feel like they've nerved him, particularly his passive and special.

seems like level 1 because the current basic is also 30% at level 1 and 60% at level 7.

Rutank

meanpride wrote: »

Basic will read: Deal Physical damage to target enemy with a 30% chance to inflict Offense Down for 2 turns. Instead of the Defense Up

Are they just going to slowly remove Defense-up in the game and leave the meta as is with Defense being basically useless?

idk dude i noticed quite a difference when people have defense up. Esp back in the day when people used chewie.

Darthbinks

Rutank wrote: »

meanpride wrote: »

Basic will read: Deal Physical damage to target enemy with a 30% chance to inflict Offense Down for 2 turns. Instead of the Defense Up

Are they just going to slowly remove Defense-up in the game and leave the meta as is with Defense being basically useless?

idk dude i noticed quite a difference when people have defense up. Esp back in the day when people used chewie.

You never fail to post something stupid.

Aluxendr

Bubblechomp wrote: »

Unlike defense up, offense down actuallly works and is basically a defensive debuff. They might as well just convert all defense up buffs into offense down debuffs as having both seems redundant.

I mean, they wouldn't be redundant if they both worked effectively, because then using them at the same time would really destroy output potential. Or you could stagger them. Or you could use O Down if you have a low armor team (as that would be more effective) and use Def Up if you had a higher armor team (Presumably if Defense worked, that would apply more of a benefit to high Armor characters)

Nauros

They are leaving the group def up on RG, though. It would make sense to start there, as his ability does little else. So I would guess that the reason behind this change is something else, maybe synergy with Grievous...

Ztyle

Rutank wrote: »

meanpride wrote: »

Basic will read: Deal Physical damage to target enemy with a 30% chance to inflict Offense Down for 2 turns. Instead of the Defense Up

Are they just going to slowly remove Defense-up in the game and leave the meta as is with Defense being basically useless?

idk dude i noticed quite a difference when people have defense up. Esp back in the day when people used chewie.

As low level, you could feel a difference when they had defense up, but as high level even Barriss is laughing at defense up

Triqui

Rutank wrote: »

meanpride wrote: »

Basic will read: Deal Physical damage to target enemy with a 30% chance to inflict Offense Down for 2 turns. Instead of the Defense Up

Are they just going to slowly remove Defense-up in the game and leave the meta as is with Defense being basically useless?

idk dude i noticed quite a difference when people have defense up. Esp back in the day when people used chewie.

Back in the day we had lower level and defense mattered you weren't 1shot those days


Defense formula is mitigation= defense/(defense+level*10). At level 70 those 30 extra defense help little

Qeltar

The problem is so incredibly simple that it's hard to believe it hasn't been addressed already: offense output is measured in thousands, while defense is measured in hundreds. Simply multiply defense numbers by some factor so they are relevant and suddenly defense matters again.