Im wondering how viable sion is at 3 star? My current arena team is double zeta palp vader shore zhrawn (eb n flow) zarkin (unique) all 7 star g12. Was considering leveling and gearing sion to replace the beast that is tarkin but need to know if hes viable at 3 star
honestly, the biggest downside to using Sion at any level under 7* is that you can't bring him to g12. The boost to his health and protection from g11 to g12 makes a huge difference in whether he can survive long enough to be useful. I currently have mine at 5* g11 and i do use him in arena but I tend to get targeted over the others in my shard who whaled out the entire way with him. Therefore, I drop more than others over night
I believe there is a video on you-tube that actually argues this point and they have said that he is viable in the arena at 3 star. For more details I would search there.
Im wondering how viable sion is at 3 star? My current arena team is double zeta palp vader shore zhrawn (eb n flow) zarkin (unique) all 7 star g12. Was considering leveling and gearing sion to replace the beast that is tarkin but need to know if hes viable at 3 star
I use him with Palp zeta lead, Vader Nihilus Thrawn.
I feel he is too squishy for being a Tank.
Once he got one shot from 100%health no protection by Wedge, who also had Pain (so 100% defense for Sion)
Many times he dies before I can really use him.
Not a bad character to use (relatively good on 3*) but nowdays Tanks have little role beyond just being a meat wall.
You would probably need a second tank as well, I usually fall ~20 place (120-> 140), but it has also happened that I fell 100+ overnight.
Im wondering how viable sion is at 3 star? My current arena team is double zeta palp vader shore zhrawn (eb n flow) zarkin (unique) all 7 star g12. Was considering leveling and gearing sion to replace the beast that is tarkin but need to know if hes viable at 3 star
I use him with Palp zeta lead, Vader Nihilus Thrawn.
I feel he is too squishy for being a Tank.
Once he got one shot from 100%health no protection by Wedge, who also had Pain (so 100% defense for Sion)
Many times he dies before I can really use him.
Not a bad character to use (relatively good on 3*) but nowdays Tanks have little role beyond just being a meat wall.
You would probably need a second tank as well, I usually fall ~20 place (120-> 140), but it has also happened that I fell 100+ overnight.
Wedge can't one shot Sion with full hp and protection, the numbers just don't add up. Your mods probably were very bad, you should have added alot more protection
Im wondering how viable sion is at 3 star? My current arena team is double zeta palp vader shore zhrawn (eb n flow) zarkin (unique) all 7 star g12. Was considering leveling and gearing sion to replace the beast that is tarkin but need to know if hes viable at 3 star
I use him with Palp zeta lead, Vader Nihilus Thrawn.
I feel he is too squishy for being a Tank.
Once he got one shot from 100%health no protection by Wedge, who also had Pain (so 100% defense for Sion)
Many times he dies before I can really use him.
Not a bad character to use (relatively good on 3*) but nowdays Tanks have little role beyond just being a meat wall.
You would probably need a second tank as well, I usually fall ~20 place (120-> 140), but it has also happened that I fell 100+ overnight.
Wedge can't one shot Sion with full hp and protection, the numbers just don't add up. Your mods probably were very bad, you should have added alot more protection
At *3 probably he can hold (as a tank), if u use 6x full defence mods set with primary n secondary protection or defence. Will increase ur armor n resistance, but sacrafice ur speed. If sion not fast enough and can't landed his pain debuff, he's useless.
But if ur arena leaderboard already fill with *7 sion, i think u better forget the *3 sion plan hmm
7* Kenobi would be better considering equal gear. Maybe g12 4* he becomes viable as solo tank.
You can't g12 a 4* character.
He is good at 3*, I personally use him with a zeta. If you have many other Palp teams in your shard and the majority of them run a GK instead of Sion, you'll be able to auto them easily.
I have him in my palp, Vader, Thrawn, Nihilus team at 3* and zeta’d. Gets me in the top 50 every payout, sometimes top 20. Zaria did about the same thing for me in that team though. His dispel is extremely useful.
You wanna listen to me, Sion is probably not going to be viable at 3 stars. These people fail to also realize that it depends on your arena shard. Each shard is different and it may vary from shard to shard but if you are really talking about an old shard with strong players then you need to stay away form Sion.
He may allow you to win a battle when climbing for payout but you'll immediately become a target and drop many ranks. You are better off using another tank. Arena many times is psychological, people will attack you just because your team appears to have a weakness over a group of identical teams.
Lastly let me say that don't let this discourage you from gearing him and trying for yourself since sooner or later he will become farmable, meaning that you will eventually 7star him and so the gear isn't gonna be wasted.
I have him in my palp, Vader, Thrawn, Nihilus team at 3* and zeta’d. Gets me in the top 50 every payout, sometimes top 20. Zaria did about the same thing for me in that team though. His dispel is extremely useful.
There are probably 10 other characters that can allow you to finish at those ranks
November 2015 shard and I've switched to using a four star Sion in my Palp team. I was getting first before, and still am so take it how you want. I use him because he is extremely fun and still quite strong. But above all else, he feeds TM and max health to Nihilus. If you don't use Nihilus, Sion would be a massive waste until seven stars.
You get value from Sion from his aoe dispel and target disruption. Obviously he won't tank as well as a 7* G12 but if he can clean out a ton of buffs early on plus force a couple taunts off EP then he's done his job.
There are about 5 teams in my shard's top 20 that run Sion. All 5 run him with Sith Trooper. Only one is less than G12/7* (G11/4*). You're going to want to run him with another tank, but I would say he's viable. As @AtlasMKx and @BazeMalbus pointed out you can probably rank the same with other characters like Thrawn, Nihilus, etc.
It's honestly pretty sad. I'm on a November 2015 shard and a maxed GK works better than a maxed Shore on a Plap team. Sion isn't better than GK either. He only works if you run him with Sith Trooper - and even that team is beatable without too much trouble by the same team with GK as the only tank on the other side.
Sion looked like he was going to be a great DS/Sith Tank - but GK is still the best....even on a Palp lead team.
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Gk is the best tank in the game. Period. He brings ridiculous light side privilege utility to any squad.
However a 3-4* Sion performs well depending on mods. In a sith squad (with good mods) I prefer Sion. Anywhere else gk rules. If EP's leadership affected all Darksiders (as it should in my opinion) then I'd say kru would be good there... But sadly he doesn't receive anything from EP's leadership.
I have him 3* g11 and zeta, and works perfectly under zzPalp squad.
How did you mod him? How old is your shard? I have him 4* with 3 x g11 pieces and he doesnt perform that well in a solo tank scenario.
My shard is April 2016, full of whales from top guilds.
Now i'm running Sion under Rex, but used him with Palp lead and works pretty good as well. I like to mod with 4 protection mods, want him to hold on until triggers "hatred". Then he will crit for around 25k.
If u have enough speed on mods u can run him as a solo tank, otherwise might need another one like Kenobi or Shore alongside for better performance.
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I believe there is a video on you-tube that actually argues this point and they have said that he is viable in the arena at 3 star. For more details I would search there.
I use him with Palp zeta lead, Vader Nihilus Thrawn.
I feel he is too squishy for being a Tank.
Once he got one shot from 100%health no protection by Wedge, who also had Pain (so 100% defense for Sion)
Many times he dies before I can really use him.
Not a bad character to use (relatively good on 3*) but nowdays Tanks have little role beyond just being a meat wall.
You would probably need a second tank as well, I usually fall ~20 place (120-> 140), but it has also happened that I fell 100+ overnight.
Wedge can't one shot Sion with full hp and protection, the numbers just don't add up. Your mods probably were very bad, you should have added alot more protection
He specifically said no protection.
Plus, he really isn’t that great outside of arena and TW, so his utility is limited.
So I decided to pass on him until he becomes farmable.
Unless you are in a really old shard
But if ur arena leaderboard already fill with *7 sion, i think u better forget the *3 sion plan hmm
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You can't g12 a 4* character.
He is good at 3*, I personally use him with a zeta. If you have many other Palp teams in your shard and the majority of them run a GK instead of Sion, you'll be able to auto them easily.
He may allow you to win a battle when climbing for payout but you'll immediately become a target and drop many ranks. You are better off using another tank. Arena many times is psychological, people will attack you just because your team appears to have a weakness over a group of identical teams.
Lastly let me say that don't let this discourage you from gearing him and trying for yourself since sooner or later he will become farmable, meaning that you will eventually 7star him and so the gear isn't gonna be wasted.
There are probably 10 other characters that can allow you to finish at those ranks
How did you mod him? How old is your shard? I have him 4* with 3 x g11 pieces and he doesnt perform that well in a solo tank scenario.
Sion looked like he was going to be a great DS/Sith Tank - but GK is still the best....even on a Palp lead team.
In game guild: TNR Uprising
I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
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Gk is the best tank in the game. Period. He brings ridiculous light side privilege utility to any squad.
However a 3-4* Sion performs well depending on mods. In a sith squad (with good mods) I prefer Sion. Anywhere else gk rules. If EP's leadership affected all Darksiders (as it should in my opinion) then I'd say kru would be good there... But sadly he doesn't receive anything from EP's leadership.
Now i'm running Sion under Rex, but used him with Palp lead and works pretty good as well. I like to mod with 4 protection mods, want him to hold on until triggers "hatred". Then he will crit for around 25k.
If u have enough speed on mods u can run him as a solo tank, otherwise might need another one like Kenobi or Shore alongside for better performance.
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