Can we discuss TW and sitting players for better matchups?
As most people know the general strategy in guilds above 120 million is to have a rotational number of players sit out Territory Wars in order to push total GP below 140 million (120 - 140 million bracket is lowest to get 3 zetas for winning). This is because there are no rewards increases after the 3 zetas received for winning these battles. The result is that the 139 million GP guild is almost always 45+ trayas and rosters with no weak spots. For the guilds trying to climb and just getting over 120 million its a nice 'Welcome!' when every matchup is against these types of guilds. End result is you get completely wrecked each time which isn't much fun. The winning guilds members wind up net positive over the long run because winning 100% of 3 zeta TW's is better than 50% 3 zeta/2 zeta results when everyone plays 'fair' and uses their whole roster.
Is there a way to base matchups with the additional consideration of matching the number of active participants in each guild? Feel like it would take a lot of advantage away from the top dogs just having their way with the up and comers.
Is there a way to base matchups with the additional consideration of matching the number of active participants in each guild? Feel like it would take a lot of advantage away from the top dogs just having their way with the up and comers.
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I want to know how the people sitting out are selected or actually go along with it. Is it a penalty or just picking straws? Is there incentive for them? Do they get first in raids? Idk just seems to be a bad choice for a guild to do.
Silver lining - this seems to go away as you raise your guilds gp. I think at that certain threshold where it’s a zeta for a victory and no zeta for a loss is when it’s really bad.
We are a 145 mill gp guild, never even thought about leaving players out just to be under 140m.
On the other hand as a 145M gp guild we have 0 Trayas (about to unlock a few in coming weeks) got a 169M gp opponent with 50 trayas already unlcoked. They got 7* star bastilas like it was a common character...
The thing is that this whole matchmaking system is bad and these kind of pairings should never happen...
The people selected go along with it the same way they would to post a zero damage in some type of raid. Everyone misses the same number of TW's with the rotation public and posted to Discord or some other site. I know of guilds that make it work in a number of different ways. If 3 people sit (dependent on GP) then you are only sitting out 1 time every 16 TW's.
Agree with your description of the exploitation. When your matchups come out after the preview phase imagine getting a 121 million GP guild instead of 169 million GP guild and the difference in morale it would make. When my guild (125 million) pulls a 155 million (pre sitting guys out) guild we have a number who completely lose the will to fight. Those same people are willing to sit if the TW becomes more enjoyable the next 20 wars they got to play.
The game is built on 'fastest to exploit' in a lot of cases but this seems like a quick fix to make sure number of participants must match.
Thanks. Was really curious on how. But still caught up on the why. Everybody has different play styles and comforbility. My opinion - very unlike how I would run a guild, we want everyone to do better etc.
For reference we are 169 mil gp guild and lose majority of the time. It’s frustrating for some. Me personally- I don’t mind. It’s pretty low stakes. 1 zeta loss. But that kind of adds support to the players sitting - it’s just one zeta.
Sorry for being so long winded- ultimately I don’t see CG doing anything about it.
OP's argument is based on the poor assumption that dropping GP into a lower prize tier changes the available opponent pool. Devs have already stated that matching is not based on a guilds prize tier. Cross-tier matches are allowed.
That would defeat the whole purpose of a sign up period. It's nice to let people take breaks from an event if they are busy and cant participate. It's nice to finally get a game mode that doesnt make you or your guild suffer if you cant be on your phone.
Try Warrior's Discord channel. Try any of the big SWGOH Discord channels. Everyone knows about this.
Totally agree that the sign up period allows people to play and sit out accordingly as their schedules permit. What would defeat the purpose of it? I'm not following.
What makes you think Warrior knows what he is talking about?
You are stating that your whole guild should count towards TW. Meaning if you sit out because you will not be active, you are hurting your guild.