So just curious how many guilds have been killed because of the HSR? This for me has been the most challenging year for guilds and that is due in large part to the HSR. No raid has been so toon demanding and challenging than the HSR has been. I think what has hurt so many guilds by HSR is total guild participation and the number of certain teams needed by each guild member to complete every stage of the raid. Those members in a guild that have strong rosters only stay patient so long before they decide to leave the guild for a guild that is completing HSR. After all Traya shards are probably that most sought after shards in the game.