Need advice to kill/deal with new Zombie & NS team ASAP for GA
Hi all. So I'm an old player returning, and my paper Zombie is **** now, and I went up against one Zombie with my Empire team who could deal with her b4, and no go to say the least.
Currently my opponent in GA has a MT Zeta lead with Zombie on team, and they have pretty good speed. Luckily, I think, the really good news is this player does NOT have a G10 Zombie either (G9) so undying sacrifice is not active.
Note I currently don't have Thrawn, a BH team or a FO team all on defense. What I do have is:
EP Empire team, Bastilla Jedi team (weak Ben taunt), my own NS team and Rebels (no CLS).
Questions:
1A - So with this Zombie, seems I will have to kill at least it 3 times then?
B - Trouble is I think it is G9 and decent health, so even when -100 speed she will gain 50 when damaged meaning she will still revive. How to deal with that?
C - Then there is the problem of MT Zeta reviving NS's, but I guess not Zombie if -100 speed?
2. How to deal with a G10 Zombie WITH undying sacrifice good grief?
TIA
Currently my opponent in GA has a MT Zeta lead with Zombie on team, and they have pretty good speed. Luckily, I think, the really good news is this player does NOT have a G10 Zombie either (G9) so undying sacrifice is not active.
Note I currently don't have Thrawn, a BH team or a FO team all on defense. What I do have is:
EP Empire team, Bastilla Jedi team (weak Ben taunt), my own NS team and Rebels (no CLS).
Questions:
1A - So with this Zombie, seems I will have to kill at least it 3 times then?
B - Trouble is I think it is G9 and decent health, so even when -100 speed she will gain 50 when damaged meaning she will still revive. How to deal with that?
C - Then there is the problem of MT Zeta reviving NS's, but I guess not Zombie if -100 speed?
2. How to deal with a G10 Zombie WITH undying sacrifice good grief?
TIA
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She will also not revive the other sisters so you can defeat that team the same way you would have before : lots of aoe, focus daka into talzin.
Your Palp lead empire team should do it if mods are ok. If your nightsisters are ok, mirrors are very easy to win also.
To your second point, the usual strat is again lots of aoe, but kill order becomes asajj twice (to use up zombie revives, asajj is usually lowest hp/prot sister), then daka into talzin. It’s more dangerous than before but obvious counters still work (troopers, nightmare...), just make sure your not too far behind in mods/gear because it’s harder now.
Because you only get one crack with each team, and I only have 4 I am hesitating which to pick here against who. They have Phoenix guarding ships, and NS on the other side. My teams look like this:
EP, DV, Moff, RG, DT - No Thrawn really hurts here, also my good taunt is on D as well, not so strong now
Bastilla, Yoda, QGJ, Luminara, Old Ben - This is a 1 trick pony, GMY, my Ben is weak, no Erza hurts here
Lando, Solo, Leia, Fulcrum, KSO - This is a fairly strong team for me, but KSO a little weak and not best taunt
NS team, nothing to write home about, fairly weak and slow, much more so than their team. Zombie not on team
And that's it really. If your me, how are you going to approach this?
As long as your opponents don't have Acolyte, you simply kill the weakest Nightsister twice to put an end to Zombie's revives, then kill Old Daka and the rest until only Zombie is left. Dispel, stun and/or kill Zombie in between as necessary. I don't even bother trying to get Zombie to -100 speed and just work around her. Bastila can dispel and sometimes stun her, as can KRU, who works well enough on a Jedi team. Ezra also has a dispel.
If they do have Acolyte in addition to a G10 Zombie, you need AOEs. I've had no luck with my Jedi team against Acolyte NS teams (my only AOE is Anakin's), but my bounty hunters work well enough now that I've zetaed Bossk.
Lineup:
- palp (obvious)
- vader (obvious)
- tarkin (debuffs + TM removal AoE)
- TFP (debuffs, high damage)
- RG (stun + taunt IF any ally gets low)
overkill
1A If you take the zombie to zero speed (two stacks of -50%) it will not take turns, and not gain taunt again. Since it's below g10, if you kill it while at zero speed it will not revive.
1B If the zombie is at zero speed (two stacks of -50%) it will never take a turn, and never gain speed again. If It's at 50% speed (one stack of -50%) it may still take turns and gain 50% speed. The solution is to be faster. Your empire team with zEP lead should not have trobule with that with all the bonus TM gain from EP's lead and all the debuffs landing.
2. Various strategies, depending on which team you're using:
A. Kill a weak NS twice (it revives both times through undying sacrifice), then kill Daka (she won't revive through undying sacrifice), kill the rest one by one leaving zombie for last.
B. Kill a weak zombie twice (or kill Daka twice, or kill daka once + a weak NS), then kill Daka, then kill zombie repeatedly until at zero speed (to prevent taunts) then kill the zombies one by one leaving zombie for last.
If fighting NS with NS I prefer 2B. If fighting them with Empire, I prefer 2A.
I don’t have all information such as speed and gear on both sides but i would probably go with palp. Without a dispell zombie can be annoying but you may have enough tm gain, control and sustain to win. As long as you don’t start killing sisters randomly and take your time, the only real danger is talzin’s mass attack since your tank can’t force it on himself.
If there is no acolyte and your jedi team is stronger than your empire with a zeta on bastila lead you can try that. Yoda might kill everything fast enough.
In my next war I will again face a NS team this time with a G10 Zombie, but thankfully a slow one. I will follow general advice given here for that.
He only has 4 decent teams (vs my 7): Empire no EP. Jedi no ****, Erza or Jolee. NS. Rebels but fairly weak.
If you are him, what u think he'll put on defense? (I'll probably have my FO guard my ships, then BH & Ph)