Yoda's Battle Meditation tooltip causes confusion
March 15, 2016 8:41PM
edited March 2016
The tooltip on battle meditation is a bit tricky. A better, more accurate description should be : Makes whole team immune to any kind of debuffs for 2 turns.
When it says "Tenacity up", one will assume that he increases the tenacity of the team by a fixed amount. Everyone who is not visiting the forums often to know how it works now, he will be misguided.
Devs need to fix the tooltip so it will describe the spell more accurate.
EDIT: There is similar described spells like "Evasion Up, Critical Up, etc." which makes the tenacity up immunity a lot more misleading. It should mention the immunity so people wont waste attempts on ability blocks and stuns.
When it says "Tenacity up", one will assume that he increases the tenacity of the team by a fixed amount. Everyone who is not visiting the forums often to know how it works now, he will be misguided.
Devs need to fix the tooltip so it will describe the spell more accurate.
EDIT: There is similar described spells like "Evasion Up, Critical Up, etc." which makes the tenacity up immunity a lot more misleading. It should mention the immunity so people wont waste attempts on ability blocks and stuns.
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No, i ask for a tooltip change. How are people supposed to know that tenacity up equals immunity?
It does increase tenacity by a fixed amount. Specifically by 9,999%.
Visiting the forums doesn't do much to help understand the math anyway. There's very little info available on math or stats.
Potency: Increases the chance to apply detrimental effects to opponents.
Tenacity: Increases the chance to ward off detrimental effects.
Ok, let me describe you the problem. 2 days ago, more yoda started to appear on Arena. So it happens to Aoe with my Sid and applying 1-2 debuffs only. Considering Sidious' potency is 0, i consider it normal to see that many resists, so i proceed to use my ability blocks on enemies. After 11-12 ability block + stun fails, i check yoda's buff and then i come on forum ready to report it as bug. But before i write something, my eye fall upon someone writing something about yoda's immunity buff that is bugged and Sid is supposed to not even land a single dot. So i wonder myself? What immunity?? Nothing about immunity is mentioned. That day costed me 4/5 arena loses because of that. So i ask you and other people. Is that so clear that tenacity up means immunity??
@EventineElessedil
Battle Meditation - Yoda gains Tenacity Up for 2 turns, then grants each other ally every positive status effect he has for 2 turns, with a 40% chance to also grant Yoda 30% Turn Meter.
Tenacity: Increases the chance to ward off detrimental effects.
So it increases the tenacity chance by how much? Would it be 100%? But why Dooku has 220%? What's the max tenacity? 300%? 500%? 1000%? 10.000%?? Where on yoda spell it mentions the immunity?
We don't know that tenacity up universally means immune to negative effects (which isn't really true, and I'll explain below). Buffs and debuffs are also not standardized across the board; there are variations in percentages from toon to toon for the "same" buff. So simply labeling Tenacity Up as being immune to all resistable effects may not be a universal truth.
However, because of inraj on Reddit we do know that Yoda's bm does specifically mean immunity to all effects that can be resisted. There are some abilities that have effects that can't be resisted though, such as with Vader.
Don't you think it's critical to mention the immunity? I can't be the only one that wasted stuns and ability blocks on heroes with yoda's tenacity up. Tooltip description seems like a lazy work. I thought i have to mention that, since devs decided to change heroes descriptions and done nothing about this, which is something of high importance.
I don't have your answers, but Yoda's tenacity buff is quite clearly strong enough to ward off all the nasty effects you were throwing out. Sounds like an excellent counter to Sidious' AoE.
I get your point, and don't disagree that a change to reflect "provides immunity to all resistable effects" would be more helpful. It's really an argument of semantics though. Technically it doesn't provide total immunity.
So if it doesn't provide total immunity i will continue my Dooku stun tests (because he has the highest potency) and if more than 30 fail shall i report it as bug?
Also i got another question :
Kit Fisto : Turn the Tide - Deal Physical damage to all enemies with a 55% chance to grant all allies Potency Up for 2 Turns.
Is that potency up supposed to make everything stick on enemies? Or heroes with high tenacity can still ward off debuffs? And how should i know if it's working as intended or if it's bugged? Shall i invest on Kit Fisto for yoda event for example?
The stun won't work. BM makes anyone with this buff immune to any resistable effect. Regardless of how high Dooku's potency is the stun is resistable and will not stick.
Only effects that specifically state they cannot be resisted will get through.
Ok, thx for the info. That's a big disappointment from the dev team. That people having to learn how in-game spells are supposed to work through reddit or GOH forums, because they were unable to write a correct tooltip.
Anyone knows about Kit Fisto's Potency up buff? Does it give 100% potency or whatever is called max in this game? Can we maybe get a dev response?
You're honestly better off asking on Reddit. You're much more likely to receive a solid answer from the Devs that regularly post there.
I just read the patch notes and they mention this :
The bonus DoT effect applied by Darth Sidious’s Demoralizing Blows on a critical hit can be Resisted.
It appears that damage over time was bugged and not yoda's spell. Yoda's spell makes people immune to debuffs for 2 turns.
@Telaan See the confusion it causes to people? I was sure i wasn't the only one.
Yea it was a bug. One of Sidious' DoTs would make it through if he crit'ed on his AOE. Supposedly it's been fixed.
First off its not immunity. I get hit with harmful effects through it. Its pretty reliable to be sure but effects do get through so its accurate as is. Its tenacity up not immunity up cause your not immune