Long Term Viability of CLS Teams in Squad Arena
My trusty CLS arena team has kept me in the top 200 of squad arena for forever. But all good things come to an end, and I've noticed this team is exceptionally bad vs Padme / GR. Is the CLS arena viability ending? Will Padme or another faction take CLS' place as the 3rd strongest arena team (after DR and JKR) in the near future?
Curious before I start to add the G12 5&6 pieces and finishers to CLS and his friends.
Curious before I start to add the G12 5&6 pieces and finishers to CLS and his friends.
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#2 is what I'm talking about - CLS has, in my opinion, been the most reliable non-Revan (both) team to run in arena to date. My CLS is my best team, but I don't want to put the the G12+ and finishers on them if Padme (or someone else) is going to be a better choice in the long run. I hope that makes sense.
In game guild: TNR Uprising
I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
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Thanks - can you clarify what you mean by maxed? Is that G12, all zetas? or G12+, or G13?
Do you have Padme at 7*? Who is your 5th? (Padme, Anakin, Ahsoka, GK and ?) Right now I have a 5* Padme.
Much appreciated advice.
Right now, if you don’t have a Revan team, you’re likely to get knocked down. Defending in squad arena tends to be more about blending in than having the best team. If you run a different arena team than most others, it needs to be very good (high offense & speed) in order to avoid getting targeted and knocked down.
Based on what the developers said, I’m guessing that either Padmé or Grievous teams are their next “as intended” arena meta. So those are probably the teams you should focus on if you want to be ready for the next meta.
By "maxed" I generally mean full g12+5 and mostly 6 dot mods. My 5th is C3P0. Some people prefer GMY over Ahsoka for arena, but you don't want to do that for GA.
But yes, to take down 7* DR/Malak in arena, 7* Padmé is needed and the team really needs all zetas to be consistent.
If you're facing weaker DR/Malak teams (or DR teams without Malak) you can run other comps or weaker GR teams. Against non-Malak DR you can swap in Zarris instead of 3p0. It's fun - especially if zBarris is slow, because she builds up stacks of courage and then wallops when she finally does attack.
In game guild: TNR Uprising
I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
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First off, "meta" has multiple definitions.
Definition 1: The metagame. The game around the game environment. The set of factors you have to consider based on the actions of other players. Whether or not players commonly use a team is more or less independent of whether a team is arena viable.
In fact many teams become viable because completely different teams are commonly used in the metagame. During early Palpatine meta, I used Thrawntroopers because all those debuffs fed them a lot of TM. There were a lot of matchups that team fared poorly against, but because Palpatine was so prominent, I could consistently count on climbing against Palpatine teams. Antimeta is arena viable because of other factors present in the metagame, even if they are not themselves a big factor in the metagame. It's how Rex stuck around through like nine metas. It's how the Thrawn/Magma loop took a hold when Traya dominated. And it's a large part of the current Grievous/T3 lineup's success, capitalizing on the ubiquity of Devan and the many, many debuffs he applies to his own team. Grievous is viable and successful right now largely because someone else is the singular, defining unit of the hour.
Definition 2: The Most Effective Tactic Available. Funny thing? This can vary from person to person because not everyone has the same tools available to them at any given time, and "effective" depends strongly on choosing a goal, making that pretty mutable. If you're not part of an hSith guild and you're six months out from maybe unlocking Traya, then no matter who the dominant team is, Traya is not the most effective tactic available to you in the short term.
The extremely specific definition you're using would be the single most globally dominant team as the "meta." But that very specific definition is not a good prescriptive, and just because something doesn't fit that very specific definition does not mean it isn't arena viable. The definition you're using is primarily of value for historical purposes, like earlier when I said Rex persisted through nine metas. Which is to say Rex had his own meta that ended droid meta, and persisted through GK/Zarriss, Wiggs/Chaze, Thrawntroopers, Titans, Nightmare, JTR, Nightsisters, Bastila, and though he'd been in decline for some time, he really only left the leaderboards around the time Traya came into prominence. Even though he was not the singular dominant team, he was not "the meta," there were people who stayed on the leader board for a year and a half with Rex teams.
So no. Not being the current singular dominant meta team does not mean the case is closed on the question of whether CLS or anyone else besides Devan is arena viable right now.
And while I see CLS as a team on the decline and unlikely to be thrown a bone any time soon, we have at least three teams who aren't the dominant meta but are absolutely viable in a Devan-dominant environment in Kevan, Padme, and Grievous.
So I ran only CLS for the last year in Arena...smashed the Traya teams, smashed the JKR teams, and smashed the Darth Revan teams. By smashed I mean #1 Arena. But then Darth Malak came about and my smashing stopped. I couldn't stop him from killing me. So I switched over to Darth Revan/Malak team to stay top of Arena, but always hoping one day I could return to the glory days.
Whelp..that day may be soon. I saw this video on Youtube. Check it out....and remember..that is just with his CLS G13..not even factoring in Han and Chewy Damage increase at G13.
Does stink though that it requires Thrawn and not R2
Yes..probably why I struggled soo much vs Malak... because I refused to sub in Thrawn. Love my R2. You definitely need someone to tie up Malak..so either a Fracture, Isolate, or at minimum a taunting Tank.. GK or Maybe STHAN with his huge BUFFS will be a good 5th..hmmm
what is the speed of the cls team? the whole team goes first. in general, it is hard to get everybody first although not sure if the turn order went rebels way b/c of cls lead
I see what you did there. I had never considered meta as an acronym. Nice!
@Lilpup Can't wait to check out this video - thanks for the share!
-j.
CLS, Han and Chewie are essential, so the choice comes down to R2 vs C3PO. If you are in GA or TW and using C3PO elsewhere, then R2 makes sense but otherwise 3PO brings so much more to the table.
Darth Revan and Fallen Bastila have massive health pools, so those exposes add up significantly.