Relics and the road ahead
The underlined part had me excited for relics but after the last two posts they sound like rebranded G14
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Like when I turned 16 and my mom promised a new car and wrapped a hot wheels
More like mom promised a kick to the kiwis and you got it
So, per the screenshots posted, a basic gear salvage will have a scrapping value of 6.
And you need to reach 45 to create a piece of scrap (at least the scrap piece shown).
That's 7,5 gear salvages pr. scrap.
In another screenshot we can see that it takes 90 scraps and 35 signal data to upgrade Dooku's lightsaber from what looks like level 2 to level 3.
That's 675 gear salvages just for a low level increase - and the 35 signal data to be farmed from cantina.
An increase from level 6 to level 7 seems to require 120 scraps - or 900 gear salvages - and 80 signal data.
So for the fun of math let's say that we need an average of 100 scraps and 50 signal data pr. level, then we'll need 4.500 gear salvages and 300 signal data per relic (if we start at level 1 and need to level up 6 times to get to level 7).
Looking at zeb's Bo-Rifle stats, it gives him around 30.000 health and protection for a maxed Relic.
That's look a lot like what a regular tank gets from all six G12 pieces.
I just don't remember those six pieces requiring 4.800 salvages to complete...
Furthermore I'm willing to bet that the further a scrapping piece is placed to the right in the line of what's required to upgrade from one level to another, the higher the "scrapping price" will be per scrap.
Yeah ... relics are totally NOT a new gear level...
They might reveal that at a later time instead of making one post covering power and abilities
As stated above we dont have the whole picture, but yes they do seem to just be a dumping zone for gear now that they are closing off the gear path.....
Honestly I still see thia as a good thing. This will allow many to solidify their roster (the whole "we need to catch up thing") and some to really make the toons they love to use peak). It's more than a new gear level, but not quite what it could have been.
"potentially new abilities" is still pretty far from "just more stats", though. Hopefully there's more to the relics than what we know so far.
The devs either don't care what you want, or it's very low on their priority list. They need to keep extending the grind, so that people always have something to spend on. You're not meant to ever "finish" a character, because when you start finishing characters, you stop spending money, and then there's no game anymore.
That's the business model. You don't have to like it, but if you're not going to stop playing you should probably make your peace with it.
As far as the "potential new abilities" bit, I would guess that a future update will add more relic upgrade levels which will start to unlock new passive-unique type stuff. Obviously, pure speculation on my part.
It is just a new gear level but with a reduced restriction on the items needed to gear up.
Not necessarily. From the sound of it, each upgrade to the relic is its own gear level, and each new level requires higher and higher level gear. It sounds like gearing a whole new character.
May I at least ask if “perfectly new items everyone wanted” would have a different look on a character or it is just numbers (aka extremely lazy design)?
I am a player who has been here since the beginning.
I am sure they have new things coming, and I'm sure many will call them reskins, because that's what happens... but every other time we have had difficulty content and no real avenues to advance, this time they seem to be setting us first to beat the things that are coming and the last new thing they dropped (which is new content).
Just wait and see. Lol
I want to see the conversions and the economy post.
That is not what I was asking. Reread and try again.
ha ha ha ha
there is still going to be a gear crunch getting to g13, unless they plan on turning the spigot to firehose, I already need over 20,000 carbantis, how many more am I going to need for my relics?
20,001 :P
Honestly if you look at the picture and the information we have, we can draw some conclusions:
- at some point in a future that is far far away, players will start getting to a point where they dont need many different pieces of gear at many levels
- any increase at this point brings that closer
Were both of those true before, yes, but now there is an actuall stopping point of a direct need for piece X or Y.
- this new way of "gearing" doesnt require X or Y gear
This looks like we are finally getting some ability to parallel path progression, where not everyone needs to wait for the same thing.
Can you use caribanti, sure, but you dont need to, and that's a good thing.
The salvage system boils all the gear in the game into six pieces of scrap. There are multiple ways to get them, but you will not need any singular, specific gear piece to get a certain piece of scrap.
There will be some sort of bottleneck. This is a resource management game; there is always a limiting resource. But it appears that bottleneck will be, "I need more yellow gear," not, "I need more eyeballs."
Don't get me wrong, I'm not overall negative about the new relics, rather want to wait and see how they will turn out when the time has come. But I have to agree with some people that this potentially part was one of the most interesting details that raised some expectations.