Exploits shouldnt be rewarded

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IDinDooNuffin
459 posts Member
edited October 2019
There was a time where a Finn zeta exploit was announced. Took a few months for the exploit to be fixed. In that time a large number of people zetad finn based on that exploit. Reaped rewards of the exploit, the whined and moaned when the exploit was fixed about wasting a zeta.
Then had their zeta refunded.
Why is it this time rewards for exploiting are being taken away?

And before you say anything about it benefiting me, i was 13 GET1 currency (thirteen) from 7 starring malak without the exploit.

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    Wasn't an exploit just cg not playtesting properly or understanding how characters interact. This one is cg messed up far from an exploit.
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    People are getting Shard Shop currency simply because it is virtually impossible for them to remove it from the people that got it due to it having already been spent.
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    An example of an exploit is what was going on with mods and grand arena
  • IDinDooNuffin
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    edited October 2019
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    Anytime something happens in a manner not intended and doing it knowing it was intended for that purpose is by definition exploiting.

    We can be facetious about it.

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    We didn't know it wasn't WAI, nuff said
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    Finn zeta wasn’t an exploit, it was literally the design of the lead. They left it for so long because it was working as intended. They only reworked him because he became too good with c3po. Not exactly an exploit. Or do you consider any character working better then originally intended to be an exploit?
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    Anytime something happens in a manner not intended and doing it knowing it was intended for that purpose is by definition exploiting.

    We can be facetious about it.

    By your definition palpatine was being used to exploit the drevan/ malak meta when they first came out, because the interaction was 'unintentional'
    CG just doesnt or isn't able to manage all interactions an game and the community will always be better at it anyway.
    Point is you have to see how your definition of exploit is insufficient and that you might not fully understand the issues around this mpst recent bug
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    It is an exploit and it's unfair for people who didnt get to partake it in the exploit.

    Any bug that people partake in is an exploit and that's the definition of an exploit.
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    The only exploit here is CG giving only 5* trash general skywalkers and putting the rest of the shards in GET currency forcing everyone to become hoarders for the rest of the games life.
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    Don’t feed the trolls.
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    The fact that a player could get those rewards by playing the event normally disqualifies it from being an exploit. If a player had to start the event, disable wifi, enter chat and try to send a message, then re-enable wifi on a different network in order to get rewards, then you could argue it's an exploit because it requires specific forehand knowledge to "exploit" the bug. This bug had none of that.

    Hence, we're all getting at least 250 crystals because this was entirely CGs fault. I even think that's too little because of the damage it's done to player confidence and the community (eg. some players demanding punishment of other players).
    xSWCr - Nov '15 shard - swgoh.gg kalidor-m
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    Rhunne wrote: »
    Anytime something happens in a manner not intended and doing it knowing it was intended for that purpose is by definition exploiting.

    We can be facetious about it.

    We didn't know it wasn't intended for hours... Cg is not known for their communication skills unless something goes wrong. And before you jump on the assumption train, how about all those folks who don't venture onto the forums or Twitter or reddit for information? Those folks are 100% innocent.

    This bug was allowed to exist for hours after it was claimed to be a bug, they where house late to the party removing the event.

    This is 1000000% cgs blunder and fault.

    Too good to be true.

    Unless u are a new player it should be known that CG doesnt do this.
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    kalidor wrote: »
    The fact that a player could get those rewards by playing the event normally disqualifies it from being an exploit. If a player had to start the event, disable wifi, enter chat and try to send a message, then re-enable wifi on a different network in order to get rewards, then you could argue it's an exploit because it requires specific forehand knowledge to "exploit" the bug. This bug had none of that.

    Hence, we're all getting at least 250 crystals because this was entirely CGs fault. I even think that's too little because of the damage it's done to player confidence and the community (eg. some players demanding punishment of other players).

    Absolutely ignorant of the deffinition of exploit.
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    Rhunne wrote: »
    GBahia03 wrote: »
    It is an exploit and it's unfair for people who didnt get to partake it in the exploit.

    Any bug that people partake in is an exploit and that's the definition of an exploit.

    You need to re read what the definition of "exploit" is..


    I'll save you the effort

    transitive verb

    1: to make productive use of : UTILIZE
    exploiting your talents
    exploit your opponent's weakness
    Nojow wrote: »
    Finn zeta wasn’t an exploit, it was literally the design of the lead. They left it for so long because it was working as intended. They only reworked him because he became too good with c3po. Not exactly an exploit. Or do you consider any character working better then originally intended to be an exploit?

    And when 3p0's unintended interaction came to light masses who had NOT zetad Finn... Zetad him to exploit the situation... And then when it was announced (9 weeks before it happened) that it was not intended and theyd be fixing it. Even more people exploited the situation and zetad Finn reaping rewards. Followed by dozens of threads and hundreds of posts by people intentionally exploiting the situation demanding they get their (now worthless) zeta on finn be refunded.

    In case anyone elae reading this still doesnt understand exploitation... This is 100% it.
  • kalidor
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    kalidor wrote: »
    The fact that a player could get those rewards by playing the event normally disqualifies it from being an exploit. If a player had to start the event, disable wifi, enter chat and try to send a message, then re-enable wifi on a different network in order to get rewards, then you could argue it's an exploit because it requires specific forehand knowledge to "exploit" the bug. This bug had none of that.

    Hence, we're all getting at least 250 crystals because this was entirely CGs fault. I even think that's too little because of the damage it's done to player confidence and the community (eg. some players demanding punishment of other players).

    Absolutely ignorant of the deffinition of exploit.

    And that's why everyone that got malak shards from the event who'd previously completed have been banned.

    Oh they haven't? Hmm.
    xSWCr - Nov '15 shard - swgoh.gg kalidor-m
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    kalidor wrote: »
    kalidor wrote: »
    The fact that a player could get those rewards by playing the event normally disqualifies it from being an exploit. If a player had to start the event, disable wifi, enter chat and try to send a message, then re-enable wifi on a different network in order to get rewards, then you could argue it's an exploit because it requires specific forehand knowledge to "exploit" the bug. This bug had none of that.

    Hence, we're all getting at least 250 crystals because this was entirely CGs fault. I even think that's too little because of the damage it's done to player confidence and the community (eg. some players demanding punishment of other players).

    Absolutely ignorant of the deffinition of exploit.

    And that's why everyone that got malak shards from the event who'd previously completed have been banned.

    Oh they haven't? Hmm.

    Lmao because CG is just going to ban all their whales right?

    Rules can be broken with $.
  • JZ95
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    People should work on their definitions. The OP seems to lack understanding of what's an exploit
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    JZ95 wrote: »
    People should work on their definitions. The OP seems to lack understanding of what's an exploit

    Did people exploit an unintended reaction?
  • Waqui
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    Anytime something happens in a manner not intended and doing it knowing it was intended for that purpose is by definition exploiting.

    We can be facetious about it.

    How would those same people know, that it wasn't intended behavior?
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    The only exploit not fixed in this game is of gullible people.
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    Lysandrax wrote: »
    Anytime something happens in a manner not intended and doing it knowing it was intended for that purpose is by definition exploiting.

    We can be facetious about it.

    By your definition palpatine was being used to exploit the drevan/ malak meta when they first came out, because the interaction was 'unintentional'
    CG just doesnt or isn't able to manage all interactions an game and the community will always be better at it anyway.
    Point is you have to see how your definition of exploit is insufficient and that you might not fully understand the issues around this mpst recent bug

    Exactly. Unintentional interactions are not exploits.
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    IronCross wrote: »
    The only exploit not fixed in this game is of gullible people.

    You mean like everyone responding to this troll thread?
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    Not an exploit.

    But this dont resolve the problem that only malak 7 owners get " more rewards" (because of the whales) and were the least affected by the bug.

    And also now, nobody can 7* Malak, so another advantage for the malak 7* owner (because of the whales) (I dont care if it is only 3 days, it is 3 days of advantage)

    There is a common pattern here, I let you find it by yourself.
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    Oddly allowing all players to run the event twice after a new character was introduced that uses the same guild tokens and well over a year after it was released makes sense. It eased up the crunch for F2P and dolphins and gave whales more shard shop currency.

    Call it an exploit if you want but the smart thing for CG was to let all players just run the event twice and call it an early Christmas present. Instead they **** off a bunch of their players (on the heels of several controversial game changes), they posted a rollback plan that is only going to please their top end clients and they have to do a bunch more development to fix the issue.
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    The problem with this whole mess is the shard shop currency.

    250 crystals across the board is fine for the screw up. Everyone is getting it. Their justification of the shard shop currency is ok in one sense, if you already had a 7* Malak and missed out on re-running it, you should get the currency equal to what the others who did run it got if you didn't get a chance to run it before it was shut down. However, those who didn't have a 7* Malak should not be excluded. While they can't give out the extra shards, everyone should get the same currency regardless. If you can't keep the Malak shards from rerunning the event, then how is it fair to give out shard shop currency to those who didn't rerun the event. It is a lazy make good because there is no way to take back shard shop currency that has been spent. If those who didn't rerun the event are being given a make good to equal that of those who did rerun the event, those who didn't have Malak at 7* need some sort of equivalent make good, whether they reran the event or not.
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    Waqui wrote: »
    Anytime something happens in a manner not intended and doing it knowing it was intended for that purpose is by definition exploiting.

    We can be facetious about it.

    How would those same people know, that it wasn't intended behavior?

    In the case of FINN. When CG anounced that it wasnt intended and they'd be fixing it.

    In this case when crumb (or my no indont remember who) said we are shutting the event down dont do it.
  • Ankh
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    edited October 2019
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    I had no idea that this wasn't intentional. There was an alert circle calling my attention to the event, so I completed it and at the time was pleasantly surprised.

    Devs communicating that it was a mistake outside of the game doesn't actually reach most of the SWGoH player base.

    I agree the that way they are going about reconciliation is f'ing insane, but many of us did not intentionally "exploit" anything. Don't be PO'ed at us because the developers are incompetent and don't actually test properly.
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    JacenRoe wrote: »
    IronCross wrote: »
    The only exploit not fixed in this game is of gullible people.

    You mean like everyone responding to this troll thread?

    I’m just here to sow discord and ill will
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