Zam questions (gasp!)

Vendi1983

Alright,

So we were having a discord discussion about Thermal Detonators with some of my guild's newer members and in my digging for answers I came across some odd mechanics with Zam:

1 - her basic, it says it detonates all TDs on the target, but not all character's TDs inflict the same amount of damage. Is the game processing each TD as "from the person who applied it" when Zam uses her basic or are they all exploding at her 30% health damage? Afterall, they aren't exploding on their own by the turn start trigger.

2 - what is this malarkey about "modify potency by 0.02% * physical/special damage" on Zam's special ability "See What Sticks"? Greedo has the same mechanic built into his toss, but Dengar doesn't.

crzydroid

It does seem that thermals do different damage based on the applying character. The potency thing was added during the changes to thermals I believe, and most thermal characters have that. I think it was to give the thermals a better chance of sticking, but I don't remember. I'm not sure why Dengar's missing it. That could be an oversight/bug, or maybe they were thinking he gets tenacity down first, except that I don't see where the thermals are conditional on him scoring at least one crit.

chionophile

This reddit thread gives a rundown of the different amounts of %health damage that various effects do, including the different thermal detonators. It's a bit old, so some of the info might have been changed, but I imagine it's still pretty close.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SWGalaxyOfHeroes/comments/bgfcqo/relatively_indepth_list_of_percent_maxhealth/

Vendi1983

Oh I know they all do different (Mob Enforcer for the win), I'm just curious how it's processed when Zam is the one detonating them.

Cheers everyone. Thanks!

crzydroid

Vendi1983 wrote: »

Oh I know they all do different (Mob Enforcer for the win), I'm just curious how it's processed when Zam is the one detonating them.

Cheers everyone. Thanks!

Yeah, the damage is linked to the effect, not the method of detonation. So the damage it's marked with when it's applied should be what happens. Like dots, I believe it's actually the target who is the one doing the damage to themselves. That's why thermals can't proc zombie's sacrifice.

Vendi1983

@crzydroid cheers thanks!

scuba

Also TD's can crit. There is a nice bug not sure if they fixed it, where Aalya can stun an opponent when a thermal explodes on her.

Jarvind

The potency thing just makes TDs very hard to resist. I assume dengar doesn't have it because he doesn't apply TDs directly, they are just automatically inflicted (and presumably not resistible) if he gets the requisite number of crits on his AOE.

Kisakee

As the damage dealt is specified by the character applying the TD i don't think that it matters 'when' or 'by whom' they got triggered but just 'that' it happens.