PSA: Don't ult JML

Canadafett
45 posts Member
edited October 18
So after using him and reading on all the boards. Adding his ult literally makes 0 difference in any matchups.

He wins all the same ones on Offense, he never uses it on D. He still 4/4s easy in LSTB and he is capped at 14 mil dmg in HSTR. There is not one area of the game where he is better for having it. at best maybe 1-2 banners more in GAC, that's it.

Add in the fact that one ultimate is equal to taking 38 toons from G12+5 ,to G13 and all it does is bloat your GAC matchmaking.

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  • Kyno
    25804 posts Moderator
    https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/236653/server-update-10-09-2020#latest
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    Not sure what changes will be made, but they are looking at things.
  • Kyno wrote: »
    https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/236653/server-update-10-09-2020#latest
    66xomgqqlhjg.jpg

    Not sure what changes will be made, but they are looking at things.

    Yeah I hope they do something, tying it to a dispellable ability is an awful way to charge an ult.

    In the meantime still doesn't make any sense to ult him. You can just hoard then mats and use them down the road if they change anything and if not you can just use them for the next GL you are going for.
  • Kyno
    25804 posts Moderator
    Canadafett wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/236653/server-update-10-09-2020#latest
    66xomgqqlhjg.jpg

    Not sure what changes will be made, but they are looking at things.

    Yeah I hope they do something, tying it to a dispellable ability is an awful way to charge an ult.

    In the meantime still doesn't make any sense to ult him. You can just hoard then mats and use them down the road if they change anything and if not you can just use them for the next GL you are going for.

    If/when they adjust it to work correctly, he will likely stand better on defense with his ultimate.
  • Eh, I already got 8/10 materials and 32 tickets. I'm not stopping now. The only thing that might change is Jedi Legacy is intended to be has last zeta (currently have 2 of 6) and possibly ignored completely until changes are made.
  • Eh, I already got 8/10 materials and 32 tickets. I'm not stopping now. The only thing that might change is Jedi Legacy is intended to be has last zeta (currently have 2 of 6) and possibly ignored completely until changes are made.

    This. I'm still about a week or so away from GML, but definetly planning on leaving off Jedi Legacy zeta until we get a fix for his AI.
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  • Gifafi
    4988 posts Member
    he absolutely uses it on D. lol op
    Maybe End Game isn't for you
  • Gifafi wrote: »
    he absolutely uses it on D. lol op

    Show me a video where he uses it on D in a battle where he wasn't winning already and it was useful, I've yet to see one and I'm on every board and discord with JML.
  • Gifafi wrote: »
    he absolutely uses it on D. lol op

    I'm guessing if it was working properly they wouldn't bother investigating and yet they are...
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  • Gifafi
    4988 posts Member
    Canadafett wrote: »
    Gifafi wrote: »
    he absolutely uses it on D. lol op

    Show me a video where he uses it on D in a battle where he wasn't winning already and it was useful, I've yet to see one and I'm on every board and discord with JML.

    “He never uses it on d”
    Yes he does
    “Well then tell me uh blah blah blah”

    Lol
    Maybe End Game isn't for you
  • Kyno
    25804 posts Moderator
    ImaSmakya wrote: »
    Gifafi wrote: »
    he absolutely uses it on D. lol op

    I'm guessing if it was working properly they wouldn't bother investigating and yet they are...

    He does use it on D, what they are looking at would adjust the "charge rate" by having him use it the way the planned, but as of right now there are videos of him using it on D out there. It just takes longer due to a few ways the AI works right now.

  • Gifafi wrote: »
    Canadafett wrote: »
    Gifafi wrote: »
    he absolutely uses it on D. lol op

    Show me a video where he uses it on D in a battle where he wasn't winning already and it was useful, I've yet to see one and I'm on every board and discord with JML.

    “He never uses it on d”
    Yes he does
    “Well then tell me uh blah blah blah”

    Lol

    The point is his ultimate doesn’t add anything on defense. Whether he literally uses it or not is irrelevant. The odds of it changing the outcome of a battle seem to be very small.

  • Kyno wrote: »
    ImaSmakya wrote: »
    Gifafi wrote: »
    he absolutely uses it on D. lol op

    I'm guessing if it was working properly they wouldn't bother investigating and yet they are...

    He does use it on D, what they are looking at would adjust the "charge rate" by having him use it the way the planned, but as of right now there are videos of him using it on D out there. It just takes longer due to a few ways the AI works right now.

    Not that it matters, but I didn't say he wasn't using it, just that if they were investigating it, then it probably wasn't working properly.
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  • Gifafi wrote: »
    Canadafett wrote: »
    Gifafi wrote: »
    he absolutely uses it on D. lol op

    Show me a video where he uses it on D in a battle where he wasn't winning already and it was useful, I've yet to see one and I'm on every board and discord with JML.

    “He never uses it on d”
    Yes he does
    “Well then tell me uh blah blah blah”

    Lol

    You need to understand what generalizations mean. I'm talking about exactly what Bulldog said.
  • TVF
    25588 posts Member
    What does it mean to be on every board and discord "with JML"?
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  • TVF wrote: »
    What does it mean to be on every board and discord "with JML"?

    It means I follow Mark Hamill's Twitter account.
  • TVF
    25588 posts Member
    Ah yes, definitely relevant.
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  • RandomSithLord
    1871 posts Member
    edited October 19
    Ultimate adds about ~8k GP. Top 80 matchmaking has a margin of 15-20k at least, so I don't see how this will potentially make you get any different matches.

    I'd understand if you had to choose between the ultimate and 2-3 upgrades from r5-7, but they don't use the same resources.
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