Will they return my zeta mats on Moff Gideon?

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Sayonara15
21 posts Member
edited December 2020
I added a zeta for Moff gideon’s leadership, but since they worded it wrong I’d like to be refunded the zeta mats, how do I contact them and is there a good chance they will put it through?
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    Sayonara15 wrote: »
    I added a zeta for Moff gideon’s leadership, but since they worded it wrong I’d like to be refunded the zeta mats, how do I contact them and is there a good chance they will put it through?

    No refund is going to happen to you specifically

    However, they have done refunds of abilities before (for example when they changed the rebel path finder basic), don't remember if they did with Hux tho

    If they get to do a refund, you'll get it automatically, no matter if you wanted or not the refund, you'll get the materials back and you'll decide if put them again on him or not
    BUT, only if they decide to do it for everyone

    I don't think they'll refund anything for a specific case
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    mariogsh wrote: »
    Sayonara15 wrote: »
    I added a zeta for Moff gideon’s leadership, but since they worded it wrong I’d like to be refunded the zeta mats, how do I contact them and is there a good chance they will put it through?

    No refund is going to happen to you specifically

    However, they have done refunds of abilities before (for example when they changed the rebel path finder basic), don't remember if they did with Hux tho

    If they get to do a refund, you'll get it automatically, no matter if you wanted or not the refund, you'll get the materials back and you'll decide if put them again on him or not
    BUT, only if they decide to do it for everyone

    I don't think they'll refund anything for a specific case

    Thanks for the answer, hope they do cos it kind of changes everything, I have no tank and only deathtrooper as an attacker
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    Hopefully yes. I genuinely want my zeta back and the gp decreased for a leadership I won't be using in this new framing.
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    Sayonara15 wrote: »
    I added a zeta for Moff gideon’s leadership, but since they worded it wrong I’d like to be refunded the zeta mats, how do I contact them and is there a good chance they will put it through?

    Where is it worded wrong/ expanded on?
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    Ravens1113 wrote: »
    Sayonara15 wrote: »
    I added a zeta for Moff gideon’s leadership, but since they worded it wrong I’d like to be refunded the zeta mats, how do I contact them and is there a good chance they will put it through?

    Where is it worded wrong/ expanded on?

    Between the part of "If all allies are" and "imperial troopers" there should be an "also"

    Correct wording should be "If all allies are also imperial troopers"

    That specific wording implies that you either run a exact composition the leadership asks you, while also being imperial troopers, or you are not getting the benefits of the leadership AT ALL
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    Can anyone link the post where it says there was a mistake? I haven’t seen it and a bit curious...
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    Damodamo wrote: »
    Can anyone link the post where it says there was a mistake? I haven’t seen it and a bit curious...

    Here you go https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/comment/2199353/#Comment_2199353
  • Kyno
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    For further clarification, the "also" goes between "allies are" and "Imperial Troopers:"

    https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/comment/2199353/#Comment_2199353
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    LOL, yeah that's a pretty substantial wording. I did the event battles with Bossk Vader Thrawn EP and some other DS toon thinking they fulfilled it.
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    Yeah I'd also like a refund of that zeta. I looked at it and it seemed valuable until they changed the wording.
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    They've admitted they dropped the ball on the wording. They should refund all Moff Gideon leadership zetas, fix the in-game text and then let people decide whether or not they want to re-apply the zeta.

    Full disclosure - I haven't applied the zeta, so don't have a dog in the fight. I am merely commenting based on what the right thing to do is, because integrity matters.
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  • WookieWookie
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    edited December 2020
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    Do y'all 'member Hux and how he used to work with any team in preventing TM gain? Petridge Farm 'members. I also remember excitedly buying the pack to get him to 4*, taking him to G12 (another bug/unintended feature) at 4*, putting his zeta on him... and then he got hit with the nerf bat and only worked with a full FO squad. (which I did not have, as I went the Rey route) Never was refunded any of the play store purchase, gear, nor zeta. Prepare for the same treatment with Moff Gideon. I'm not whining, any investment in this game is 'subject to change,' so buyer beware but don't be salty if you don't get your investments back - this has a nearly identical precedent.

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    Do y'all 'member Hux and how he used to work with any team in preventing TM gain? Pentridge Farm 'members. I also remember excitedly buying the pack to get him to 4*, taking him to G12 (another bug/unintended feature) at 4*, putting his zeta on him... and then he got hit with the nerf bat and only worked with a full FO squad. (which I did not have, as I went the Rey route) Never was refunded any of the play store purchase, gear, nor zeta. Prepare for the same treatment with Moff Gideon. I'm not whining, any investment in this game is 'subject to change,' so buyer beware but don't be salty if you don't get your investments back - this has a nearly identical precedent.

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    This is different. They didn't nerf his leader -- they miswrote it, so it means something totally different. It was a mistake on CG's part, not a nerf. So people should have their lead zeta refunded. btw I don't have the lead zeta.
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  • WookieWookie
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    edited December 2020
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    This is different. They didn't nerf his leader -- they miswrote it, so it means something totally different. It was a mistake on CG's part, not a nerf. So people should have their lead zeta refunded. btw I don't have the lead zeta.

    So... exactly the same situation, when a poorly written description made an ability appear to function universally in contrast to only within the characters' own factions as it does in game/the coding?

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    This is different. They didn't nerf his leader -- they miswrote it, so it means something totally different. It was a mistake on CG's part, not a nerf. So people should have their lead zeta refunded. btw I don't have the lead zeta.

    So... exactly the same situation, when a poorly written description made an ability appear to function universally in contrast to only within the characters' own factions as it does in game/the coding?

    No... One was a nerf to a unique ability. The other was the wording was wrong in-game. They are very different. A nerf is when an ability is changed. Wrong wording is when CG developers have written x but the in-game description shows y but in-game x still occurs. In this case, the x was there was no lead if there weren't 2 attackers, 1 tank, 1 support + Gideon; and y was if all allies are ITs but not the required type (attacker/support/tank), you still got the best part of the leader ability. FYI
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    They are different scenarios but both should entitle refunds of materials used.
    Those specific cases doesn’t affect me personally but it’s good to know that the company will follow good business ethics in the future when it might affect me.
  • Ltswb1
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    edited December 2020
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    LOL, yeah that's a pretty substantial wording. I did the event battles with Bossk Vader Thrawn EP and some other DS toon thinking they fulfilled it.

    They do fulfill the first part, and they never fulfilled the second part no matter which wording was used.
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    Ltswb1 wrote: »
    LOL, yeah that's a pretty substantial wording. I did the event battles with Bossk Vader Thrawn EP and some other DS toon thinking they fulfilled it.

    They do fulfill the first part, and hey never fulfilled the second part no matter which wording was used.

    EP and Thrawn are Support; only one attacker
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    I agree that the zeta should be refund
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    Cg has altered the deal, pray they do not alter it further
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    They didnt alter the deal, they just made a mistake with the wording.

    That’s not too much of a big deal imo
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    They didnt alter the deal, they just made a mistake with the wording.

    That’s not too much of a big deal imo

    It is as much as a deal as putting on that zeta or not, the ask is the same.
  • Damodamo
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    edited December 2020
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    They didnt alter the deal

    Pray that they don’t alter the deal any further...


    Couldn’t resist..
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    I'm sure it'll get refunded. Maybe not today or tomorrow, it's a weekend after all, but eventually. It's a pretty big flub to forget the "also" in there.
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  • crzydroid
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    Huh. I wouldn't have ever thought of trying to do one or the other. My mind immediately went to an all troopers team with those specific roles.
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    Sayonara15 wrote: »
    mariogsh wrote: »
    Sayonara15 wrote: »
    I added a zeta for Moff gideon’s leadership, but since they worded it wrong I’d like to be refunded the zeta mats, how do I contact them and is there a good chance they will put it through?

    No refund is going to happen to you specifically

    However, they have done refunds of abilities before (for example when they changed the rebel path finder basic), don't remember if they did with Hux tho

    If they get to do a refund, you'll get it automatically, no matter if you wanted or not the refund, you'll get the materials back and you'll decide if put them again on him or not
    BUT, only if they decide to do it for everyone

    I don't think they'll refund anything for a specific case

    Thanks for the answer, hope they do cos it kind of changes everything, I have no tank and only deathtrooper as an attacker

    Why don't you work on your troopers then? Gideon will work great for them.
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    Where did they say it is worded wrong?
  • crzydroid
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    Eweff wrote: »
    Where did they say it is worded wrong?

    Look several posts up.

    https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/comment/2199353/#Comment_2199353

    Apparently the original wording could be read as all imperial troopers would get the bonuses of the second part even if they were not the rolls of the first part.
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    crzydroid wrote: »
    Sayonara15 wrote: »
    mariogsh wrote: »
    Sayonara15 wrote: »
    I added a zeta for Moff gideon’s leadership, but since they worded it wrong I’d like to be refunded the zeta mats, how do I contact them and is there a good chance they will put it through?

    No refund is going to happen to you specifically

    However, they have done refunds of abilities before (for example when they changed the rebel path finder basic), don't remember if they did with Hux tho

    If they get to do a refund, you'll get it automatically, no matter if you wanted or not the refund, you'll get the materials back and you'll decide if put them again on him or not
    BUT, only if they decide to do it for everyone

    I don't think they'll refund anything for a specific case

    Thanks for the answer, hope they do cos it kind of changes everything, I have no tank and only deathtrooper as an attacker

    Why don't you work on your troopers then? Gideon will work great for them.

    Yeah he will be really good I just don’t have the resources for that at the moment
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    Sayonara15 wrote: »
    crzydroid wrote: »
    Sayonara15 wrote: »
    mariogsh wrote: »
    Sayonara15 wrote: »
    I added a zeta for Moff gideon’s leadership, but since they worded it wrong I’d like to be refunded the zeta mats, how do I contact them and is there a good chance they will put it through?

    No refund is going to happen to you specifically

    However, they have done refunds of abilities before (for example when they changed the rebel path finder basic), don't remember if they did with Hux tho

    If they get to do a refund, you'll get it automatically, no matter if you wanted or not the refund, you'll get the materials back and you'll decide if put them again on him or not
    BUT, only if they decide to do it for everyone

    I don't think they'll refund anything for a specific case

    Thanks for the answer, hope they do cos it kind of changes everything, I have no tank and only deathtrooper as an attacker

    Why don't you work on your troopers then? Gideon will work great for them.

    Yeah he will be really good I just don’t have the resources for that at the moment

    Shore troopers gear is totally insane as well
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