Basically the event ability says to “Gain an immediate turn”
JMK lead prevents TM manipulation so either the event ability is based off of TM & doesn't state that it is, or the ability is bugged and doesn’t grant the extra turn.
Some clarification or investigation would be appreciated.
It seems Moment of Glory is not working the way it used to in Ground War. It states:
"Gain an immediate turn with the following benefits:(bunch of buffs listed)"
GMY used to be able to use Moment of Glory and then immediately pass the buffs around with Battle Meditation but it no longer seems to be giving the immediate turn and you have to wait for GMY's next turn to pass them around (if he still has them).
He's most likely referring to JMK (preventing TM manipulation) + GMY.
Looks like "gaining an immediate turn" is coded as +100% TM which gets shut down by JMK.
He's most likely referring to JMK (preventing TM manipulation) + GMY.
Looks like "gaining an immediate turn" is coded as +100% TM which gets shut down by JMK.
That is very disappointing.
I guess the question is, should "gaining an immediate turn" be considered 100% TM?
Any turn manipulation is based on TM, it always has been.
So that's why GMYs "Masterstroke" and Thrawns "Grand Admiral's Command" that are "based on TM" are still working under JMK? Interesting.
Weren't those noted to have been given special treatment?
Bonus turns, TM swaps, and TM gain/loss are not treated the same. "Immediate Turn" should be the same as a "Bonus Turn". Either the description should change to match the behavior ("gain 100% TM") or the behavior needs to change to match the description.
Any turn manipulation is based on TM, it always has been.
So that's why GMYs "Masterstroke" and Thrawns "Grand Admiral's Command" that are "based on TM" are still working under JMK? Interesting.
Weren't those noted to have been given special treatment?
Bonus turns, TM swaps, and TM gain/loss are not treated the same. "Immediate Turn" should be the same as a "Bonus Turn". Either the description should change to match the behavior ("gain 100% TM") or the behavior needs to change to match the description.
Agreed. Or Moment of Glory should be added to the "special treatment" list. You're giving an event only ability that doesn't work with all characters.
Any turn manipulation is based on TM, it always has been.
So that's why GMYs "Masterstroke" and Thrawns "Grand Admiral's Command" that are "based on TM" are still working under JMK? Interesting.
Weren't those noted to have been given special treatment?
Bonus turns, TM swaps, and TM gain/loss are not treated the same. "Immediate Turn" should be the same as a "Bonus Turn". Either the description should change to match the behavior ("gain 100% TM") or the behavior needs to change to match the description.
They are within the realm of they all just give/take TM in different amounts. Yes they are handled differently due to circumstances, like TM swaps have a special thing so they will almost always go first, and bonus turns take priority in the in the overflow system.
Any turn manipulation is based on TM, it always has been.
So that's why GMYs "Masterstroke" and Thrawns "Grand Admiral's Command" that are "based on TM" are still working under JMK? Interesting.
Weren't those noted to have been given special treatment?
Bonus turns, TM swaps, and TM gain/loss are not treated the same. "Immediate Turn" should be the same as a "Bonus Turn". Either the description should change to match the behavior ("gain 100% TM") or the behavior needs to change to match the description.
They are within the realm of they all just give/take TM in different amounts. Yes they are handled differently due to circumstances, like TM swaps have a special thing so they will almost always go first, and bonus turns take priority in the in the overflow system.
All that does is prove this is a bug. GMY's Masterstroke grants him an immediate turn even under JMK lead. And I guess Thrawn's TM swap works, and probably so does Hux's bonus turn. Either none of those should work, or the event ability should work.
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"Gain an immediate turn with the following benefits:(bunch of buffs listed)"
GMY used to be able to use Moment of Glory and then immediately pass the buffs around with Battle Meditation but it no longer seems to be giving the immediate turn and you have to wait for GMY's next turn to pass them around (if he still has them).
Is this an intended change?
Who else was in your lineup?
He's most likely referring to JMK (preventing TM manipulation) + GMY.
Looks like "gaining an immediate turn" is coded as +100% TM which gets shut down by JMK.
You're right though, I just tested it with the team I used to run and it still works.
Who would be causing it to no longer work correctly? JMK? It's not just one member that goes between GMY's turns, everyone takes a turn before him.
I guess the question is, should "gaining an immediate turn" be considered 100% TM?
So that's why GMYs "Masterstroke" and Thrawns "Grand Admiral's Command" that are "based on TM" are still working under JMK? Interesting.
Weren't those noted to have been given special treatment?
Bonus turns, TM swaps, and TM gain/loss are not treated the same. "Immediate Turn" should be the same as a "Bonus Turn". Either the description should change to match the behavior ("gain 100% TM") or the behavior needs to change to match the description.
They are within the realm of they all just give/take TM in different amounts. Yes they are handled differently due to circumstances, like TM swaps have a special thing so they will almost always go first, and bonus turns take priority in the in the overflow system.
All that does is prove this is a bug. GMY's Masterstroke grants him an immediate turn even under JMK lead. And I guess Thrawn's TM swap works, and probably so does Hux's bonus turn. Either none of those should work, or the event ability should work.
Please report this bug to Answers HQ.