After a GL...
Hello!
F2P player here, currently grinding for my first GL, SEE. I started going after him 4 months ago and only 3 toons are remaining. After SEE, I don't know whether to go for GAS, Malak or another GL, any directions would be appreciated.
https://swgoh.gg/p/251375171/
Btw it's too late now but I really wish that I would've gone for SLKR instead, SEE is too squishy.
F2P player here, currently grinding for my first GL, SEE. I started going after him 4 months ago and only 3 toons are remaining. After SEE, I don't know whether to go for GAS, Malak or another GL, any directions would be appreciated.
https://swgoh.gg/p/251375171/
Btw it's too late now but I really wish that I would've gone for SLKR instead, SEE is too squishy.
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Where you are at, I would consider pushing for GAS next. Gives you another strong squad and beefs up your GR and Separatist factions.
Malak can't be compared to those.
GLs kinda come after core teams have been invested in. There are rosters that destroy 2 to 4 GLs when they have none.
Beating 4GLs without 1? I kinda doubt that's ever happened.
Rey - GAS, JMK - Bad Batch (+BH if CAT), SEE - GG, SLKR - Jedi.
Yeah, it's theoretically possible but consider the odds. GG vs SEE alone is fairly low
Also the setup would be extremely rare: One, you have 0 GL vs 4 GL. Two, you have someone who has JKL, GAS, BB, maybe CAT but NOT a GL. Then the guy with 4 needs to set all 4.
Then the 4 GLs need to be exactly the 4 you listed
Then the guy with no GLs has to not only beat all 4 GLs, but also win ("destroy") the other guy.
I'm very doubtful this scenario has ever occurred.
I think it has occurred far more than you realize. The matchmaking is designed to pair skillful players with quality non-GL rosters against less skillful players with multi-GLs that even sometimes don't participate in GAC.
The MM is in absolutely no way designed to do that. It can happen by chance, but not design.
Oh I strongly disagree.
Then you're wrong. This isn't a matter of opinion, the system is pretty clear, but if you choose to remain ignorant to how it works, that's on you.
I can see many paths for that to happen. You can call it ignorant if you want, but the only thing that could resolve the name-calling would be data and data-analysis.
Roster quality versus countering skill are two of three factors that have people moving up and down the skill ladders. I faced P2Pers as I moved up Kyber that were consistently more GLs than me: my 1 to their 2, 3, and 4. You might get hung on my wording that the game is designed to do matchmake this way, but there are really only 4 factors that go into someone moving up and down:
- countering
- GAC battle strategy
- modding
- your roster
The wins and losses that matchmaking is directly done by is indirectly done by those 4 factors. So when I say that's how matchmaking is done, that is what I meant at least.
I would love to see the data either way on non-GL players in kyber. I imagine the bottom of kyber is now filled with non-attackers that just put multi-GL defenses down and they only attack to see if they can get 1 zone wins. It's all just speculation without data though
I didn't get "hung up" on your words, they're just wrong.
If you instead want to say that there is more to winning than having the most GLs, you would be correct. But that's not what you said the first time.
Hard to prove a person is wrong without evidence.
Then you agree I must be correct. Nice.
? How do you conclude that? You are the 1 contending I am wrong, or have you forgotten what you have written? If you are going to negate another person's posit without asking for their evidence, then logically the onus is on you to put forth your anti-thetical evidence. That's kind-of how intellectual discourse works...
Prove it.
You can't prove invisible pink unicorn elephants exist.
That's why I'm clearly right.
I can, I have a photo of one right here:
It’s right in front of the tree