Jedi need a rework, they smell like saltwater
To get to the point, there are a lot of jedi in the roster that I would classify as “Launch units”… in other words, units available in the game since launch, which over the game’s lifecycle have not gotten much in the way of “improvements”… Omicron abilities and relic tiers have only done so much, and while yes this might take some time, I think that it would be WELL worth a touch-up. A PERFECT example is Mace windu’s rework about a year ago… I know I remember his old ability kit (remember when shatterpoint would expose an enemy and not do a unique debuff? Those were the days…) and how much better it is now. A lot fo the jedi in lore that are super powerful (*cough *cough plo koon *cough *cough) are just represented as “push-over units”, making late-game jedi teams bottlenecked into late-game units like GAS, JKR, GMY, etc. While this might be an intentional thing, it still doesn’t put that someone like Eath Koth has only a force push and a lightsaber slash… I would’ve posted this forum last night, but I had an issues when I tried to spell “Ferren” right after 4 attempts… (I want to see Ferren Barr as a new unit, he’s awesome and there’s a lot of material for potential abilities)
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I guess the Jedi stand out due to the contrast of how powerful they are in the lore in general and their performance in the game.
Well CUP and other like units don’t typically have much power in lore.
I think it’s fair to bring the leftover Jedi into relevancy. OP doesn’t seem to be asking for anything top tier at all really. They should be able to take out things like Geo’s or maybe even mid level teams. As it stands they can’t beat anyone really.
Its dumb that only G-Kenobi will taunt.
The Mace Re-work helped a little, but Plo really needs to, you know, TANK.
Its hard to form a group when the entire faction lacks many of the CC abilities that non-tank teams have (AE Stun or TM of Palps/Trooopers for example).
Stuff like Aayla's Stun can only go so far.
Even Barris's healing can only do so much when its not being applied to a major tank like GK.
Plus, we always get more Jedi like Cal Kestis incoming
This honestly, jedi has gotten so much love from the moment JKR came out, we got JMK, JML, JKR, Qui gon, these are some of the steongest teams in the game, much rather see reworks for mandalorians, they still hit like a wet noodle.
Or get 2 more night sisters to haven2 full night sister teams, (1 is confirmed obviously coming in with Cal)
I don't often agree with you, but I'm 100% with you on that one. There is very very little use to the toons you mentioned. They either need to rework them, or make them a requirement for something in the future. Ideally both.
Have you been to New Jersey?
Have the Jedi?
Before the new TB I would have agreed with you but now that we need to put high relics on some of these characters, it would be actually nice to be able to use them/have them somewhat useful.
Unfortunately, thinking cynically, this is also a very good reason for CG to not rework those characters. Why would they rework characters to encourage gear/relicing them when there’s already an incentive in TB platoons/CMs?
Kamino…
That’s why I put this post… there is only units being added, it doesn’t make the faction stronger more effective if most of the really powerful units are all late game units… I’m not expecting the jedi knight guardian or consular to be top teir, but I do want them to at least hav SOME potential in a JMLS team… JMK is mainly a GR GL, so it doesn’t make much sense if most of the GR jedi are all bottom of the bottom… even more so, by adding in more units for late-mid game, it makes starting a struggle
Something else is while yeah some of the launch units are ok, if you take a unit like jedi knight guardian and put it up with another launch unit at relic 4 (lets say snowtrooper), the jedi guard will get smashed… snowtrooper is faster and deals more damage naturally, and while more defense is good and all, it doesn’t do much if you keep getting ability blocked and hit with heavy criticals (without mods… just base stats).
Edit:both at relic 4, not just snowtrooper… should’ve specified
To go a step further, why are the only clones in game 501rst, cody, some rando with a minigun, and Bad batch? I wanna see hound, wolffe, Gregor (my favorite commando), some more 212th, gree, the list goes on… there’s so much 501rst bias everywhere and I don’t like anakin or obi-wan as both jedi and commanders, and I ESPECIALLY hate how much the 501rst were plastered on the walls of everything to do with the clone wars… seriously, when were they NOT involved in some major battle or important territory?
Money? More players? Maybe an actual use for new shard packs?
I don't think Kenobi needs a rework
Yes… but having 10 different versions of GAS is not a good thought… even though that is totally never gonna happen, he’s already really hecking powerful, I don’t want more 😖