Ahnald used him to mess up just about anything in arena, so I guess he wasn't watching him.
On Def he seems to be a bit weaker, but since he was made as a lifter for the most offensive GL that makes sense.
His kit definitely seems more for offense. His unique really benefits with just him and SEE starting which you can't place just 2 toons down onn defense. His lead seems cool but I think it's a 1 trick pony. Once the whole team dies, Bane will be all alone so probally easy clean up.
Guild members opened it and tested it on stream. JMK+CAT still doesn't beat SEE+Bane, which means it turns out to be a bad legend on TW.
Although some legends are beaten by SEE+Bane. Albeit on the verge of a timeout.
from what i saw he beats all GLs but JMK pretty easy in squad arena. Leia was a bit trickier to beat but possible, and JMK could be beaten but required some RNG with CAT. it was nowhere near a timeout for anyone but leia.
Guild members opened it and tested it on stream. JMK+CAT still doesn't beat SEE+Bane, which means it turns out to be a bad legend on TW.
Although some legends are beaten by SEE+Bane. Albeit on the verge of a timeout.
Where did you test this and what was the relic level of Bane?
In squad arena vs proper Jabba and Leia teams, I easily beat them with Bane + SEE only. Admittedly vs Leia it ended 1v1 but it was never close to a loss and that's with Bane being R5 and the lowest relic level on either side and missing the zeta on his basic.
Add the zetas, relic him up, add good mods and Bane will more than carry his weight.
Why all the hate for Ahnald around here? I don't get it. Sure he is loud, but that's his thing....if you don't like it, don't watch. He knows the game pretty well and CG is completely missing a huge opportunity by not working with him.
Bane seemed to be pretty great during his videos, even with bugs, that will hopefully get worked out.
Guild members opened it and tested it on stream. JMK+CAT still doesn't beat SEE+Bane, which means it turns out to be a bad legend on TW.
Although some legends are beaten by SEE+Bane. Albeit on the verge of a timeout.
His omicrons are all for GAC, so I imagine that's where he will shine, not TW. I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here. I don't think SEE was ever meant to be a defensive team, so Bane isn't going to change that
Why all the hate for Ahnald around here? I don't get it. Sure he is loud, but that's his thing....if you don't like it, don't watch. He knows the game pretty well and CG is completely missing a huge opportunity by not working with him.
Bane seemed to be pretty great during his videos, even with bugs, that will hopefully get worked out.
As much on him and the others as it is CG.
No I don't watch him, I get enough click bait just searching Google, I don't need yt to keep giving me more from him.
Bane looks great, I’m just worried about two things.
The first thing is that it seems like it will be easy for Bane to slip into that traditional DS Lifter zone of being better when used with his own team than with SEE, like Maul and Malicos. That’s not a bad thing necessarily, because it means Bane is really good, but it leaves SEE essentially without a lifter.
The other thing is that Bane’s Rule Of Two Unique doesn’t persist after Bane is defeated. The main initial draw of using Wat with SEE is that the Tech that he gives stays after he dies. Bane’s buffs are superior to the Tank Tech, but if he dies they disappear, which means there’s no lingering affect if he gets Leaped by CAT or similar. Bane’s GAC Omicron has a clause that suggests it persists in GAC, but it doesn’t seem to actually do that either. I’ve been trying to figure out if that’s a bug.
Bane looks great, I’m just worried about two things.
The first thing is that it seems like it will be easy for Bane to slip into that traditional DS Lifter zone of being better when used with his own team than with SEE, like Maul and Malicos. That’s not a bad thing necessarily, because it means Bane is really good, but it leaves SEE essentially without a lifter.
The first thing is that it seems like it will be easy for Bane to slip into that traditional DS Lifter zone of being better when used with his own team than with SEE, like Maul and Malicos. That’s not a bad thing necessarily, because it means Bane is really good, but it leaves SEE essentially without a lifter.
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what do you mean like malicos? what team is he doing much more in then his cere UFU team?
The first thing is that it seems like it will be easy for Bane to slip into that traditional DS Lifter zone of being better when used with his own team than with SEE, like Maul and Malicos. That’s not a bad thing necessarily, because it means Bane is really good, but it leaves SEE essentially without a lifter.
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what do you mean like malicos? what team is he doing much more in then his cere UFU team?
Malicos was advertized as going with either the Cere team or as an alternative LV lifter, because Maul kept going to Mauldos. Then everyone ran Malicos with Cere
The fact that he was even considered an LV lifter has been forgotten by many, perhaps… which kind of proves my point.
The first thing is that it seems like it will be easy for Bane to slip into that traditional DS Lifter zone of being better when used with his own team than with SEE, like Maul and Malicos. That’s not a bad thing necessarily, because it means Bane is really good, but it leaves SEE essentially without a lifter.
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what do you mean like malicos? what team is he doing much more in then his cere UFU team?
Malicos was advertized as going with either the Cere team or as an alternative LV lifter, because Maul kept going to Mauldos. Then everyone ran Malicos with Cere
The fact that he was even considered an LV lifter has been forgotten by many, perhaps… which kind of proves my point.
Malicos is an option for Lord Vader’s squad if you’d like to use your Maul elsewhere, but his main target home to make Cere’s UFU squad really punch up
yes they mention he could be in a LV team, but they also state his main home is in cere's team. so personally I don't think he fits the same role off better with this other team then the GL when he's not the "dedicated" lifter. he was mainly for Cere, LV was just a bonus choice.
Maul was meant for LV but mandos ended up better
bane is meant for SEE, but is so far looking good alone
For a SEE+Bane squad without omicron, Bane is trash since his buffs do not transfer to SEE upon death. He is an excellent leader for his own team. Therefore, it turns out that for SEE he is worse than Wat?
Bane looks great, I’m just worried about two things.
The first thing is that it seems like it will be easy for Bane to slip into that traditional DS Lifter zone of being better when used with his own team than with SEE, like Maul and Malicos. That’s not a bad thing necessarily, because it means Bane is really good, but it leaves SEE essentially without a lifter.
The other thing is that Bane’s Rule Of Two Unique doesn’t persist after Bane is defeated. The main initial draw of using Wat with SEE is that the Tech that he gives stays after he dies. Bane’s buffs are superior to the Tank Tech, but if he dies they disappear, which means there’s no lingering affect if he gets Leaped by CAT or similar. Bane’s GAC Omicron has a clause that suggests it persists in GAC, but it doesn’t seem to actually do that either. I’ve been trying to figure out if that’s a bug.
This is exactly what I meant when I wrote at the beginning of the topic that Bane turned out to be a worse assistant than Wat
The first thing is that it seems like it will be easy for Bane to slip into that traditional DS Lifter zone of being better when used with his own team than with SEE, like Maul and Malicos. That’s not a bad thing necessarily, because it means Bane is really good, but it leaves SEE essentially without a lifter.
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what do you mean like malicos? what team is he doing much more in then his cere UFU team?
Malicos was advertized as going with either the Cere team or as an alternative LV lifter, because Maul kept going to Mauldos. Then everyone ran Malicos with Cere
The fact that he was even considered an LV lifter has been forgotten by many, perhaps… which kind of proves my point.
Malicos is an option for Lord Vader’s squad if you’d like to use your Maul elsewhere, but his main target home to make Cere’s UFU squad really punch up
yes they mention he could be in a LV team, but they also state his main home is in cere's team. so personally I don't think he fits the same role off better with this other team then the GL when he's not the "dedicated" lifter. he was mainly for Cere, LV was just a bonus choice.
Maul was meant for LV but mandos ended up better
bane is meant for SEE, but is so far looking good alone
I mean, I find it ironic that Malicos was a side lifter in case you weren’t using Maul with LV, because people were doing that, and then people just… continued doing that while also not using Malicos with him because he’s so strong with Cere. LV’s fine without either of them, especially on offense, but it’s ironic he has so many lifter opportunities and none of them seem to stick.
Meanwhile Ben Solo has 3 different abilities that only work if Rey’s on the leader slot. Do I wish Bane worked that way? Probably not, but I wish the synergy was a bit tighter.
For a SEE+Bane squad without omicron, Bane is trash since his buffs do not transfer to SEE upon death. He is an excellent leader for his own team. Therefore, it turns out that for SEE he is worse than Wat?
Fear not! They just informed they would fix his description so that his buffs do not transfer to SEE after being defeated, even with the omicron.
Bane looks great, I’m just worried about two things.
The first thing is that it seems like it will be easy for Bane to slip into that traditional DS Lifter zone of being better when used with his own team than with SEE, like Maul and Malicos. That’s not a bad thing necessarily, because it means Bane is really good, but it leaves SEE essentially without a lifter.
The other thing is that Bane’s Rule Of Two Unique doesn’t persist after Bane is defeated. The main initial draw of using Wat with SEE is that the Tech that he gives stays after he dies. Bane’s buffs are superior to the Tank Tech, but if he dies they disappear, which means there’s no lingering affect if he gets Leaped by CAT or similar. Bane’s GAC Omicron has a clause that suggests it persists in GAC, but it doesn’t seem to actually do that either. I’ve been trying to figure out if that’s a bug.
This is exactly what I meant when I wrote at the beginning of the topic that Bane turned out to be a worse assistant than Wat
He won’t keep the buffs on SEE, but 90% of teams won’t be able to kill him anyway, and then most of that remainder will be killed by SEE as soon as he gets the offensive buffs.
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On Def he seems to be a bit weaker, but since he was made as a lifter for the most offensive GL that makes sense.
Guild members opened it and tested it on stream. JMK+CAT still doesn't beat SEE+Bane, which means it turns out to be a bad legend on TW.
Although some legends are beaten by SEE+Bane. Albeit on the verge of a timeout.
Where did you test this and what was the relic level of Bane?
In squad arena vs proper Jabba and Leia teams, I easily beat them with Bane + SEE only. Admittedly vs Leia it ended 1v1 but it was never close to a loss and that's with Bane being R5 and the lowest relic level on either side and missing the zeta on his basic.
Add the zetas, relic him up, add good mods and Bane will more than carry his weight.
Literally just trying to establish context.
His omicrons are all for GAC, so I imagine that's where he will shine, not TW. I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here. I don't think SEE was ever meant to be a defensive team, so Bane isn't going to change that
As much on him and the others as it is CG.
No I don't watch him, I get enough click bait just searching Google, I don't need yt to keep giving me more from him.
The first thing is that it seems like it will be easy for Bane to slip into that traditional DS Lifter zone of being better when used with his own team than with SEE, like Maul and Malicos. That’s not a bad thing necessarily, because it means Bane is really good, but it leaves SEE essentially without a lifter.
The other thing is that Bane’s Rule Of Two Unique doesn’t persist after Bane is defeated. The main initial draw of using Wat with SEE is that the Tech that he gives stays after he dies. Bane’s buffs are superior to the Tank Tech, but if he dies they disappear, which means there’s no lingering affect if he gets Leaped by CAT or similar. Bane’s GAC Omicron has a clause that suggests it persists in GAC, but it doesn’t seem to actually do that either. I’ve been trying to figure out if that’s a bug.
I just gave him Wat back lol
what do you mean like malicos? what team is he doing much more in then his cere UFU team?
Malicos was advertized as going with either the Cere team or as an alternative LV lifter, because Maul kept going to Mauldos. Then everyone ran Malicos with Cere
The fact that he was even considered an LV lifter has been forgotten by many, perhaps… which kind of proves my point.
Maul was meant for LV but mandos ended up better
bane is meant for SEE, but is so far looking good alone
This is exactly what I meant when I wrote at the beginning of the topic that Bane turned out to be a worse assistant than Wat
I mean, I find it ironic that Malicos was a side lifter in case you weren’t using Maul with LV, because people were doing that, and then people just… continued doing that while also not using Malicos with him because he’s so strong with Cere. LV’s fine without either of them, especially on offense, but it’s ironic he has so many lifter opportunities and none of them seem to stick.
Meanwhile Ben Solo has 3 different abilities that only work if Rey’s on the leader slot. Do I wish Bane worked that way? Probably not, but I wish the synergy was a bit tighter.
Fear not! They just informed they would fix his description so that his buffs do not transfer to SEE after being defeated, even with the omicron.
And yet someone else wants an omicron refund because he did arena testing (no omicron active) and Bane was great without it. So which of you is right?
(hint: he is)
He's not