Why im not buying the new LSB packs
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If you dont know theres some new lsb packs about to drop in the game, they are quite expensive and i will list a reason why I'M not buying them, but some aspects can be apply to the game.
I bought the all previous lsb that i "needed" (SK and BAM too), the overlaping characters was annoying, but the price, a great legendary, a gl and r5 compensated this problem.
Now to the list:
1- the padme, GAS and night sister packs have a LOT (5!) of overlaping characters, in my case if i buy the padme lsb for $25, i still need some characters from the GAS lsb that costs $50.
2- the lack of grievous and 501 clones on top of the overlaping. They chose to overlap 5 characters instead of providing new ones, in this case grievous instead of assaj and 501 instead of droids would solve that.
3- the packs* are just overpriced (topic 2 and 4 would solve that), they need a new a name for them because calling lsb after rey and slkr lsb is kinda weird. *The GAS pack actually is a good deal if you are new to the game.
4- and the most important thing of all: NO ZETAS. I just cant use them in GAC or TW, i have 2 years into the game i have literally ZERO ZETAS right now already missing at least 20 meaningful zetas on relic characters, while maul, cat, malgus sits on my roster and Bane is on his way. If i buy the new lsb at this pace i will never be able to zeta them without scuffing the likes of reva, gls etc.
ps: comparing the price of the new "lsb" packs to other non lsb packs in game is irrelevant to me, i use other games prices, time and ability to use characters to buy things.
If you dont know theres some new lsb packs about to drop in the game, they are quite expensive and i will list a reason why I'M not buying them, but some aspects can be apply to the game.
I bought the all previous lsb that i "needed" (SK and BAM too), the overlaping characters was annoying, but the price, a great legendary, a gl and r5 compensated this problem.
Now to the list:
1- the padme, GAS and night sister packs have a LOT (5!) of overlaping characters, in my case if i buy the padme lsb for $25, i still need some characters from the GAS lsb that costs $50.
2- the lack of grievous and 501 clones on top of the overlaping. They chose to overlap 5 characters instead of providing new ones, in this case grievous instead of assaj and 501 instead of droids would solve that.
3- the packs* are just overpriced (topic 2 and 4 would solve that), they need a new a name for them because calling lsb after rey and slkr lsb is kinda weird. *The GAS pack actually is a good deal if you are new to the game.
4- and the most important thing of all: NO ZETAS. I just cant use them in GAC or TW, i have 2 years into the game i have literally ZERO ZETAS right now already missing at least 20 meaningful zetas on relic characters, while maul, cat, malgus sits on my roster and Bane is on his way. If i buy the new lsb at this pace i will never be able to zeta them without scuffing the likes of reva, gls etc.
ps: comparing the price of the new "lsb" packs to other non lsb packs in game is irrelevant to me, i use other games prices, time and ability to use characters to buy things.
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I think it’s fair to weigh up the value to your own situation. I also purchased the last lot and so far only unlocked SLKR and applied critical FO and Resistance Zeta’s. I did feel a tug of resources and not made full use of them but I feel after I settled back into my farms and slowly made use of the characters they were a valuable addition. I imagine this is dependant on size of rosters, what gaps you may have and competing projects. I feel some packs are more useful for newer players as mid game players usually have a lot of progress but two packs here maybe useful to many mid players. At 8M I have G12 Geo’s and R5 Brood Alpha and absolutely no investment in NS, I still do not have a 7* Talzin and Daka. These are both squads I wanted to relic for a long time. Geo’s for ships and NS since Merrin release but was so far behind on NS and have been working towards other projects. I may not have full zeta’s immediately but I am happy to catch those up around other priorities.
I have an 11m GP roster and there's still at least one of these packs that's really appealing even though it'll only touch three or four of my characters.
If you don't think it's a good value then you shouldn't buy them. Measuring these against what was objectively some of the best deals ever offered in the history of the game and claiming they're expensive is, I guess one way to view it - but viewed in the full context of the game and what's available to purchase - these are still insanely good deals for a huge number of players across a wide spectrum of roster development levels.
Regarding zetas - are you also not going to gear up characters that you have the gear for just because you can't apply a zeta to them? What about mods? Do you avoid putting gear and relics on characters if you don't have ideal mods for them? I'm feeling the zeta crunch too but this logic doesn't make sense to me.
It seems like you've decided to not buy the LSBs because they're not offering a perfect solution for the price of a combo meal at McDonalds. And if that's your standard, then you shouldn't buy them because they don't measure up. It strikes me as a pretty high standard though - maybe I'm just easily pleased, but I'm jumping all over at least one of these.
I think you are missing some of the critical points. Many lower players felt more of a zetas and mod crunch with more relevant packs and lower zeta income last time. I even felt it where the quality of my mods were not as good as I work these up whilst working on character at a slower rate. This makes it more strategic to consider if these characters are what you need or if they will burden your resources or go unused for a time. That does not mean they need to change them or offer more fast food, but players can strategically think with more experience on if they will be useful.
The main points were over lapping characters which again may factor into value and efficiency. But was present in previous packs too.
But also missing characters, for instance they mention unlocking GAS without 501st. Unless this was a path already committed to it could de-rail your progress elsewhere.
So players are free to evaluate the deal and I don’t think these are intrinsically more expensive considering the value but SLKR and Rey are good GL’s for using requirements in their squads. I only did SLKR because Rey had two characters to still level up and I have not got round to it yet. Whilst SLKR had a few higher relic and a character I already had at relic. Not necessarily the same for all packs. But each player has their plans. I will be heading for Cal Kestis soon so picking up NS is amazing as I will need Merrin. But not everyone will have a pack fit their current path or gaps in their roster.
It really is, based on the price of competing packs. My NS lagged behind the rest of my roster for a long time, but I recently got MT up to r3, and she was the last of the core NS to be lower than r5. (As of a couple months ago I even have one throwaway NS at r8 b/c of Ops.)
Last year at this time I could very well have purchased the pack.
SLKR pack got you 11 characters, at relic 5, for 10$. Just below 1$ per character.
New Geo pack, gives you 5 characters (less than half!) at relic 3, for 15$. 3$ per character, at lower relic, and not leading to a GL.
Nightsister pack contains a few more characters, but you won't use the extras anyhow soo..
Padme pack contains 8 characters at relic 5, for 25$.
Again, about 3$ per character.
This pack imo is only interesting, IF the separatists in it get to participate fully in the upcoming new raid.
There is no 'shadows of the empire' equivalent either, with 13 relic 3, and 4 ships, at 10$.
Nightsister pack is missing their pretty important member, Ewoks is missing Kneesa.
That said: GAS bundle contains a far wider range than the Starkiller bundle did. And Negotiator.
(I did not get Starkiller bundle, nor the Mandalorian one).
Still, compared to Raddus & Finalizer bundle? Which were 40% the price, 7 ships, relic 5.
The bundle does not contain Marauder after all either.
You also still need to use guild currency to boost GAS to 7 stars too.
Bottom line: last time I got a bunch of LSB's.
This time, I'll probably get the Geo bundle to get guild of my back about Watt shards and TW.
TW is going to see a looot of R3 Geos for a lot of guilds, not looking forward to that tbh.
Worse value than the last LSB's? Sure.
But they're better value than anything else in the game -- assuming these are characters for which you need shards and/or gear. (Since no pack is a good value if you already have the toon relic'd up, I'm only considering the value to people who don't already have the contents.)
Obviously your choice to pass but I think your item #2 is missing the intent of the pack. That pack is for GAS not the 501st including GAS. While he works great leading the 501st, GAS is very valuable on any Jedi team.
This is the equivalent of buying a JMK lightspeed bundle and being upset that CAT isnt included. We all agree CAT is a critical component to a JMK team BUT shes not required to get JMK and I wouldn't expect her to be in a JMK bundle if they ever create one.
well - the equivalent - you don't get to pick where those kyros go - they go directly on the specified characters, but yeah, the value is impossible to beat anywhere else in the game.
True but for me is a great W i was already working on my entire sep faction, its just icing on the cake
I don't disagree but I feel these need a little context.
GG & 501st are not actually "required" for any of those events & he's always been a special-ish character so I can see why they didn't include him.
GAS & NS are both very solid options for new folks (GAS) &/or those that want to Catch Up on NS
The Padme bundle is the only one that is really "overlap" & totally NOT worth buying IMHO.
$25 for what is basically just Nute, Dooku, & Jango isn't a great buy at all.
The 3PO bundle would be decent as a catch up, IF, they didn't gimp out on not giving you 1 Ewok & if it actually had R5 to make the team worth it for someone that already has Leia done w/ 2 ewoks.
For myself, $15 to boost my Paploo & Logray from G12 to R3 isn't really worth it.
Not when my G12 is starting to really build up a solid nest egg.
Geo Bundle isn't bad, but not great when you already have half the team at R5.
As a 5 year player, there is almost nothing in these packs that I don't already have & I'm not likely to dish out to raise a couple Geos & Ewoks to fill out teams that I don't use for anything anyway.
There is only one thing for me - I would like lsb will not be added for other GLs. Because otherwise there is no reason to farm old ones when you could focus on new characters and buy everything else.
1. overlaping characters were a common occurrence in previous LSB. Do you remember the BB-8 and SLKR bundles ?
2. Are you mistaken? The name of the LS bundles refers to the character that will be unlocked with that package. GG and other 501st members are not required to unlock GAS.
3. Agree
4. LSB never had Zeta, it only helps unlock the characters in the bundles name, not to make the character work well.
Overlaping, higher prices, r3, no zetas, no gl, lesser legendary, no use.
Bro they didnt throw a bloody zetas on r3 ewoks, if i buy those and i dont have seps, most of them will sit on my roster, i can only use relic fives and plokoon ships.
Those are not for me, i dont have ns, ewoks, geos, seps, clones, but, again, if i buy it they will just sit there, zetaless, incomplete.
Im buying fallout 4.
The LSB is not just about the ability to unlock certain characters and save time in this one moment.
You gain more loot earlier in solo events, bring more power to your guild and earn more in guild events, save much credits and gear etc.
It's the best invest you can do as a newer player (if you are able and willing to invest).
Sure, you should look what you need, what LSB fit best in your roster and plan.
But overall, LSB are for newer player with smaller pockets, close some gaps and bring fresh fun over more possibilities in Events etc.
R0 is the hump to get over, so you won't have to farm Kyros.
None of the LSB's to date have provided lesser legendary or GL's. You got requirements for them, but than still had to put in a ton of work to get the legendary or GL. Despite that they are good value. I have bought and will keep buying.
Given the frequency with which bugs appear in this game (for example right now they are failing the assignment to keep the game running) what is “reasonable” pay for most of the folks at CG? I hope they’re not jacking up the LSB prices to give merit raises. 😂
What’s R0? You mean g13? These are old toons, they’re 100 kyros each. R3->R5 is a lot of signal data, carbonites, etc. so actually it does matter.