credit crunch
April 30, 2016 1:58PM
edited April 2016
I feel that there is a credit crunch in this game. tbh its starts at around levels 40 to 50, but the gap increases exponentially as you level up esp from lvl 70 upwards
it's great that there is a new level cap and raids as additional content; however increasing level prices, gear crafting prices, character promotions mean that you can only focus on a few toons to level.
as is, I have enough credits to max my main squad of characters and have many still in the lvl 40 to 50 region, yet I have thousands of training droids that I cannot use. Raids and GW require deep benches of characters, unfortunately the credits won't allow me to level enough characters to meet these ever goring requirements, yet the credits keep on trickling down like I was lvl 40. it's a catch 22.
to be blunt this is sstupid. rewards should scale up with levels, this is true of every single RPG I have ever played, and trust me it's quite a lot.
sorry but the profit mining event to supposedly gain credits is a bad joke, and GW scales in difficulty according to level yet the payouts remain the same
I think overall not only does this create frustration, but more importantly it reduces character rosters in arena since ppl focus on the flavour of the month toons. this inevitably makes every arena fight seem like groundhog day since there is a serious lack of variety/experimentation in squad rosters
my 2 cents
EDIT
remember: you need to level many more toons than just 5 for arena
-> you need many types of characters for challenges
-> you need a deep bench for GW
-> Raid is obviously designed for 25 character roster
-> need a LS and DS team to complete missions
it's great that there is a new level cap and raids as additional content; however increasing level prices, gear crafting prices, character promotions mean that you can only focus on a few toons to level.
as is, I have enough credits to max my main squad of characters and have many still in the lvl 40 to 50 region, yet I have thousands of training droids that I cannot use. Raids and GW require deep benches of characters, unfortunately the credits won't allow me to level enough characters to meet these ever goring requirements, yet the credits keep on trickling down like I was lvl 40. it's a catch 22.
to be blunt this is sstupid. rewards should scale up with levels, this is true of every single RPG I have ever played, and trust me it's quite a lot.
sorry but the profit mining event to supposedly gain credits is a bad joke, and GW scales in difficulty according to level yet the payouts remain the same
I think overall not only does this create frustration, but more importantly it reduces character rosters in arena since ppl focus on the flavour of the month toons. this inevitably makes every arena fight seem like groundhog day since there is a serious lack of variety/experimentation in squad rosters
my 2 cents
EDIT
remember: you need to level many more toons than just 5 for arena
-> you need many types of characters for challenges
-> you need a deep bench for GW
-> Raid is obviously designed for 25 character roster
-> need a LS and DS team to complete missions
Post edited by lunarwolf on
credit crunch 254 votes
yes - i feel the credit crunch
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238 votes
no - i have too many credits to spend
6%
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we may be on to something
Yea I'd imagine so. i also reckon heroic raid will be tough so most people will be trying to gear what they got to get Han giving the devs awhile to roll out lvl90
you could think that, but I bet by the time majority gets to 80, EA will increase lvl cap to 90
Thats what I'm afraid of.
Have 14 mil in waiting
I was saving for a while, just blew 18M for raids.
If you do 1 GW a day, you can get 500,000+ credits a day. It's a challenge to allocate those as you level, but CG are really more generous with credits than anything else
Even though I don't have any spare credits, I picked "no". There's adequate money if you carefully constrain yourself to picking who you want to use. Think of it like a business...you can't hire every employee you find, and sometimes you have to let an employee go when he isn't contributing enough to your business anymore.
Leveling several new character up to 40 or 50 isn't super expensive. If you play with the characters a bit you should start to get a sense of who you like. You then make careful selections about who progresses further. When I was about level 60, I had my main 6 characters all leveled up. I tried several new characters and decided I liked ventress the most of the bunch. So I started leveling her up. By the time I got up to level 63 she was about 3 levels behind. At that point I started liking her enough that I decided to make her one of my core characters. I gave her priority over another one of my core characters (Talia) that wasn't helping as much anymore. A week later and ventress was caught up with everyone else.
When I got to level 70, I decided to de-emphasize sid in my core, so he's not getting leveled up for a while. I'm using the money to try out other characters. There are a lot of good characters I see other people using and wanted to take a shot at them. Dooku and Phasma were 2 biggies I never worked on before. I've got them both around 50 and I seem to like Phasma. I've used some extra money to add a few stars, and now I'm boosting her level up.
Might you make a bad choice? Sure. Although sid is alright, I think I would have been better off with Phasma. I'm learning late. Oh well, lesson learned. Now I'm fixing that. Might things change (character gets buffed/nerfed)? Sure, but that's just how things go. Roll with it.
respectfully, it's a simple yes or no question. are you struggling to get credits?
1. credit rewards are not scaling appropriately with price increases
2. you are mistaken, if you think you should have to make a choice of 5 characters only. you need to level many more toons than just 5 for arena
-> you need many types of characters for challenges
-> you need a deep bench for GW
-> Raid is obviously designed for 25 character roster
-> need a LS and DS team to complete missions
not to mention that only focusing on 5 characters just makes everyone farm similar teams for arena. we could see more interesting arena fights if people could actually afford to level their rosters
I am not demanding that all my characters are all at max level (even if I can dream of that) but we should be able to level a lot more than currently.
ultimately it gimps the gameplay, and makes aspect of game like GW a lot more frustrating than they should be
just glad the vast majority of players see the light
A) Why are training droids in the game? They're 100% pointless if you require credits on top of them. Either remove credit requirement to level, or just toss training droids altogether.
"Look how much easier it is to level characters if you just drop some crystals here!"
Is a much easier sell than:
"Eighty-five crystals? That's worth... One tenth of a portion, peasant."
That said, i hear alot of ppl who have havent promoted toons because they cant affort it. That shows that the rate you pull shards is not ballanced with the rate you aquire credits. You could argue that they should have focussed on credits instead of shards, but anyone who has ever played "profit mining" would disagree.
scaling up will still require players to make choises on who to lvl/star up. I think "credit management" should still be part of the game, but it would ballance the shard/credit ratio.
My server shard is new so I generally don't fear my GW..
Yet
Correct, it is a yes no question, but it's a loaded yes no question. Like: Have you stopped beating your wife?
The worded options are "yes credit crunch" or "no I have too many credits". That leaves no middle ground. I certainly don't have TOO MANY credits (as I'm always able to spend everything I get, and I can always find more ways to spend any extra credits), but I don't feel there's a credit crunch either.
You are right. You need more than 5. And I have more than 5. I'm 73. I've got (5) 73s, (1) 70, (2) 68's, (1) 63, and (2) 60's. That suits me in all placed. Would it be nice to have 25 maxed characters for raids? Sure, but that's something to build up to.
Lol...yeah, right. So lets assume they double our credit. Now everyone can have 10 guys. You think were going to see more diverse teams? Or is everyone just going to level up the same 5 additional guys? Hint: it's the latter. You can see this in arena all the time. When someone is buffed/nerfed and the meta shifts, shortly after everyone miraculously finds ways to level up the new "in" character. Suddenly I see a bunch of new bens and fives showing up maxed left and right. People that are willing to take chances will take those chances regardless of what they have. Everyone else is just going to play it safe and follow the leader. The only way it's going to be any different is everyone has everyone unlocked and maxed (or just about) and there's no hard, long term decisions to be made. But then that makes it a totally different game.
If anyone denies it then they haven't reached that level yet.
Just for some perspective… I'm f2p lvl 57 . I have 16 toons all max level 57, and various stars. One 7*, two 6*, three 5*, six 4*, and the rest 3-2. Then 5 unleveled 1 and 2*. 11 are gear 7 and 8. Others gear 6.
I have 7 mil in credits waiting for my next acquisition (Vader). I finish GW everyday, and win 90+% of my Arena battles and hang on to prize tier #11.
I've been max leveling most of my toons from the beginning, and only once had to purchase credits with gems. Each time I level up I actually increase my stash of credits, because the leveling time increases which allows me to accumulate more. I am a slow leveler. Patience has its rewards.
The gist of this is that I don't try to acquire every popular toon I want. I pick one, and when I am ready I acquire it and bring it up to level and gear. You have to be prudent. You don't need all of them to be competitive. Challenges and GW make building credits quickly a breeze.
Credit payouts were suitable for lower levels, but after the cap has been raised twice. The amount of credits you can farm, is a joke, in comparison to the amount you need. I could receive 10 million credits right now and still need more.
Credits should be trivial, the important thing is getting the shards or the gear, but getting the credits you need now takes even longer to acquire than farming the gear itself !
I'm sure you're right. It will also be when I quit. UNLESS there is some better way to get credits without crystals by then.
Sorry but at level 57, you have no idea what i am talking about. Please read the OP. The credit crunch is massive when you get to lvl 70+, not at lvl 50. GW payouts are the same from lvl 40 onwards however at lvl 70+, it costs from 200k to 400k just to gain a level. Lvl 8 missions dont even pay 1k, upgrading abilities costs around 50k, gear crafting costs around 25k
Maybe. We'll see. I still think most people are over-extending themselves and over-spending.